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McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

Crowsbeak posted:

Jefferson County is where we should celebrate, there is no place where the Neoliberals have been trying to gently caress up the nation more then in education and to see all three of their thugs thrown out of office is a real victory.

I live next door in Douglas and am not limited to only one celebration so I can celebrate both.

Those three republicans were trying to do far worse. The school board debate debate was jaw dropping. From "I support the freedom of a teacher to be paid based on their merit" to the brain damaged vet whose answers kept turning to talking about how his military experience meant he knew what to do about "security in our schools" .... as if school violence in Douglas was an actual problem that needed money taken away from education to deal with.

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Milk Malk
Sep 17, 2015

FAUXTON posted:

When they start apportioning electoral votes by district results rather than state results. Take Pennsylvania for instance. It's basically one decent city, one "actually West Virginia but close enough" city, and a bunch of inbred fucks who talk like boomhauer and say yinz in between the cities. Population-wise the majority of voters in the state are going to be in those cities, and a huge majority of those city-dwellers are not down with the GOP. Moreso in the decent city than the 'burgh, but the stats legislature can draw electoral districts so that they concentrate as much of the civilized vote into as few districts as possible, while slathering the mumbling chickenfucker hill people vote as thinly as possible across all districts while still maintaining majorities.

Now, come every 4 years, you have the people in the cities always outvoting the loving filth in the woods. If they stop counting votes and just start counting familial-amplified birth defects per acre as a metric for awarding each district's electoral vote, then you've got like 14 wasteland districts with 50.1% dogshit and 5 with decent people running up the score 80-20, and you award 14 EVs to Ricky Boucher or whoever these dumb shits warble for, and 5 to Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders or whoever.

As of tonight Pennsylvania is not in danger of pulling this, seeing as their SCOTUS got a good infusion of competency.

How can you complain about rural Pennsylvanians like this when there are actual savages in Chicago who literally shoot each other to death every weekend, and their votes are still "worth" the same. At least people in Pennsyltucky don't continually vote for people who will funnel your tax dollars into these cesspools of slovenly wastes of flesh (like cesspool dwellers in Chicago for instance).

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Mr Hootington posted:

The amount of rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth over Kentucky makes me think a R presidency and subsequent disaster would be worth the month long meltdown.

Yes the prospect of the poor suffering is hi-larious

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Joementum posted:

Things that are not going to happen in American politics: EV-by-district becoming widespread, abolishing the EC, a deadlocked convention, an Article V convention, one of the two parties splintering, Donald Trump winning a nomination.

My dream of a brokered GOP convention with Donald Trump screaming like a drunken carnival barker about how he's getting the shaft and going third party will burn bright forever. :colbert:

Milk Malk posted:

How can you complain about rural Pennsylvanians like this when there are actual savages in Chicago who literally shoot each other to death every weekend, and their votes are still "worth" the same. At least people in Pennsyltucky don't continually vote for people who will funnel your tax dollars into these cesspools of slovenly wastes of flesh (like cesspool dwellers in Chicago for instance).

But enough about Winnetka...

Zeroisanumber fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 4, 2015

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Shageletic posted:

Yes the prospect of the poor suffering is hi-larious

But the poor are voting them in:confused:


Edit: you know what would fix this? Not allowing people who do not live in an enlightened, golden metropolis to vote. Your city must have 200,000 total citizens. Then the cities leadership votes who goes into power!

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Nov 4, 2015

Maarek
Jun 9, 2002

Your silence only incriminates you further.

DOOP posted:

That post reads less like "gently caress the poor" and more like "gently caress pennsyltuckians"

gently caress pennsyltuckians

No one buys this any more than when conservatives talk about 'urban culture'. If you really looked at that post and felt that way you should reevaluate your own views on people in general.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

McAlister posted:

I live next door in Douglas and am not limited to only one celebration so I can celebrate both.

Those three republicans were trying to do far worse. The school board debate debate was jaw dropping. From "I support the freedom of a teacher to be paid based on their merit" to the brain damaged vet whose answers kept turning to talking about how his military experience meant he knew what to do about "security in our schools" .... as if school violence in Douglas was an actual problem that needed money taken away from education to deal with.

I think it should be celebrated because it wasn't just liberals voting to recall those three assholes, it ws conservatives. I t can mean that there can be efforts now to take back other schoolboards and fight against the attempt to destroy education.

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

Milk Malk posted:

How can you complain about rural Pennsylvanians like this when there are actual savages in Chicago who literally shoot each other to death every weekend, and their votes are still "worth" the same. At least people in Pennsyltucky don't continually vote for people who will funnel your tax dollars into these cesspools of slovenly wastes of flesh (like cesspool dwellers in Chicago for instance).

Fauxton's post was pretty bad, but there is no reason to go all stormfront here.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

SLOSifl posted:

If there's not some restriction on minimum vote count or percentage, which there probably is, then that's why your neighbor is both the mayor and your neighbor.

Where would I find this information? I've looked at the election code for my state and all it talks about is how to vote, what the election officers are supposed to do and how the votes will be counted. I sent an email to my local board of elections but, I'm not sure where else to look for something like this.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Milk Malk posted:

How can you complain about rural Pennsylvanians like this when there are actual savages in Chicago who literally shoot each other to death every weekend, and their votes are still "worth" the same. At least people in Pennsyltucky don't continually vote for people who will funnel your tax dollars into these cesspools of slovenly wastes of flesh (like cesspool dwellers in Chicago for instance).

alright, zimmerman

put the gun down

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Milk Malk posted:

How can you complain about rural Pennsylvanians like this when there are actual savages in Chicago who literally shoot each other to death every weekend, and their votes are still "worth" the same. At least people in Pennsyltucky don't continually vote for people who will funnel your tax dollars into these cesspools of slovenly wastes of flesh (like cesspool dwellers in Chicago for instance).

:yikes:

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Mr Hootington posted:

But the poor are voting them in:confused:

With a 30% turnout, it sure wasn't the poor that was voting here.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
30% turnout, but remember it's totes a referendum on Obumma

Milk Malk
Sep 17, 2015

wilderthanmild posted:

Fauxton's post was pretty bad, but there is no reason to go all stormfront here.

So suddenly since you assume I'm talking about a nonwhite racial group, you're ready to make the jump from "pretty bad" to "neo-nazi"? I've gotta admit, that smarts a little bit.

My point is valid. If there are uncivilized, inbred fucks with stupid dialects everywhere, why be so angry with the ones who don't want your tax dollars?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

30% turnout, but remember it's totes a referendum on Obumma

When we lose, the silent majority just didn't come out. When we win by 1% with 25% turnout we have a mandate to enact everything we want!!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

blue squares posted:

What is it like to live in a state that isn't run by idiots?

Lol, that's just Seattle, which isn't necessarily run by idiots, but folks like Amazon and Boeing are always trying to import whatever flavor of FYGM libertarianism into an otherwise hippie enclave. The state itself... well, let's just say that it is being run more competently than Kansas or Maine, but is plenty capable of making bad and terrible voting decisions.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

30% turnout, but remember it's totes a referendum on Obumma

Anyone got an article getting deep into the exit numbers? It has to be the same sort of exurb middle class wave that buoys Republicans in every off-election, right?

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Shageletic posted:

Anyone got an article getting deep into the exit numbers? It has to be the same sort of exurb middle class wave that buoys Republicans in every off-election, right?

I haven't looked for it, but I would generally think yes.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Joementum posted:

Things that are not going to happen in American politics: EV-by-district becoming widespread, abolishing the EC, a deadlocked convention, an Article V convention, one of the two parties splintering, Donald Trump winning a nomination.

While I agree we're vanishingly unlikely to see it in our lifetimes, a major party splintering has at least happened before in American history, unlike everything else you mention.

Maarek
Jun 9, 2002

Your silence only incriminates you further.
In my experience off-off-year gubernatorial elections are dominated by two demographics: "nobody" and "old people". Admittedly anecdotal, but I would not be shocked if it was the case statistically too.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Milk Malk posted:

So suddenly since you assume I'm talking about a nonwhite racial group, you're ready to make the jump from "pretty bad" to "neo-nazi"? I've gotta admit, that smarts a little bit.

My point is valid. If there are uncivilized, inbred fucks with stupid dialects everywhere, why be so angry with the ones who don't want your tax dollars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Milk Malk posted:

So suddenly since you assume I'm talking about a nonwhite racial group, you're ready to make the jump from "pretty bad" to "neo-nazi"? I've gotta admit, that smarts a little bit.

My point is valid. If there are uncivilized, inbred fucks with stupid dialects everywhere, why be so angry with the ones who don't want your tax dollars?

Yikes.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Maarek posted:

In my experience off-off-year gubernatorial elections are dominated by two demographics: "nobody" and "old people". Admittedly anecdotal, but I would not be shocked if it was the case statistically too.

On the other hand, KY gov turnout this year was 70,000 fewer voters than in the last competitive gov election (2007), and 110,000 fewer than the one before that.

Some of it does come down to bad campaigning/GOTV efforts on the part of this year's Democrats.

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Nov 4, 2015

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


It doesn't help that most people probably thought "election?, you mean next year, the trump thing...I thought it was 2016 or is that the olympics".

The one with that black doctor guy...Ben Ghazi or whatevs.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Time to throw some logs onto the eternal Hillary vs. Bernie flamewar: In addition to previous claims that he's sexist, Hillary is now insinuating that Bernie is racist.

Jonked
Feb 15, 2005

FAUXTON posted:

When they start apportioning electoral votes by district results rather than state results. Take Pennsylvania for instance. It's basically one decent city, one "actually West Virginia but close enough" city, and a bunch of inbred fucks who talk like boomhauer and say yinz in between the cities. Population-wise the majority of voters in the state are going to be in those cities, and a huge majority of those city-dwellers are not down with the GOP. Moreso in the decent city than the 'burgh, but the stats legislature can draw electoral districts so that they concentrate as much of the civilized vote into as few districts as possible, while slathering the mumbling chickenfucker hill people vote as thinly as possible across all districts while still maintaining majorities.

Now, come every 4 years, you have the people in the cities always outvoting the loving filth in the woods. If they stop counting votes and just start counting familial-amplified birth defects per acre as a metric for awarding each district's electoral vote, then you've got like 14 wasteland districts with 50.1% dogshit and 5 with decent people running up the score 80-20, and you award 14 EVs to Ricky Boucher or whoever these dumb shits warble for, and 5 to Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders or whoever.

As of tonight Pennsylvania is not in danger of pulling this, seeing as their SCOTUS got a good infusion of competency.
As a Pittsburgh resident, I want to make it clear that this is absurdly wrong.

We talk like Boomhauser and say Yinz in the city as well. (Also the state party isn't particularly eager to remove the prestige and power of being a semi -swing state, just for the benefit of some dick from Texas/Florida with the added risk of drawing Dem GOTV efforts to Erie/Harrisburg. No supreme court necessary)

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Time to throw some logs onto the eternal Hillary vs. Bernie flamewar: In addition to previous claims that he's sexist, Hillary is now insinuating that Bernie is racist.

Hillary is so crazy good at throwing shade

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Time to throw some logs onto the eternal Hillary vs. Bernie flamewar: In addition to previous claims that he's sexist, Hillary is now insinuating that Bernie is racist.

Maybe I'm not very knowledgeable on political candidate poo poo-slinging, but this all seems like some pretty weak stuff no matter which way you spin it.

Or maybe Trump is starting to infect my brain.

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


ComradeCosmobot posted:

Time to throw some logs onto the eternal Hillary vs. Bernie flamewar: In addition to previous claims that he's sexist, Hillary is now insinuating that Bernie is racist.

Seems like overkill for a campaign winning by double digits, yeesh. Is Sanders sticking to his ban on negativity or has he got third parties attacking Clinton?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Jonesy posted:

Seems like overkill for a campaign winning by double digits, yeesh. Is Sanders sticking to his ban on negativity or has he got third parties attacking Clinton?

The worst he's done so far is imply that Clinton's not liberal enough.

Kulkasha
Jan 15, 2010

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Likchenpa.
I am so glad that Ohio Issue 3 didn't pass. Talk about a poisoned chalice.
And Issue 1 passed, whooo!

That said, what's the problem with Issue 2? Seemed like bog-standard antimonopoly stuff, albeit aimed at stopping another Issue 3 from arising.

menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor

Milk Malk posted:

So suddenly since you assume I'm talking about a nonwhite racial group, you're ready to make the jump from "pretty bad" to "neo-nazi"? I've gotta admit, that smarts a little bit.

My point is valid. If there are uncivilized, inbred fucks with stupid dialects everywhere, why be so angry with the ones who don't want your tax dollars?

Ah yes, the "Chicago" angle, talking point straight from Breitbart. Have you ever heard of a phrase called "per capita murder rate", dipshit? Look it up. Then get back to us as to why you think Chicago is the example you think is most resonant.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Joementum posted:

Things that are not going to happen in American politics: EV-by-district becoming widespread, abolishing the EC, a deadlocked convention, an Article V convention, one of the two parties splintering, Donald Trump winning a nomination.

Is there a difference between a "deadlocked" convention and a "brokered" convention?

It's my understanding that a deadlocked convention can't happen because there are enough votes that can be decided going into it that a candidate would bubble-up for better or worse.

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


Kulkasha posted:

I am so glad that Ohio Issue 3 didn't pass. Talk about a poisoned chalice.
And Issue 1 passed, whooo!

That said, what's the problem with Issue 2? Seemed like bog-standard antimonopoly stuff, albeit aimed at stopping another Issue 3 from arising.

My (limited) understanding is that its verbiage is just vague enough that it can also be used to gently caress over nice things like single payer Healthcare in the slim chance that somebody gets weird socialist ideas.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
Does anybody have a a good breakdown or summary of the Hillary's 11 hour question session in front of the Benghazi committee?

The basic charge I see is that the State Department was responsible for security for diplomatic personnel, and that inadequate security was provided in Benghazi, with no Quick Reaction Force in place in case the ambassador. I don't know if it was the Secretary of State's responsibility or fault that there wasn't better security, but I'm sure the question got asked at some point and I'm looking for Hillary's answer.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Armyman25 posted:

Does anybody have a a good breakdown or summary of the Hillary's 11 hour question session in front of the Benghazi committee?

The basic charge I see is that the State Department was responsible for security for diplomatic personnel, and that inadequate security was provided in Benghazi, with no Quick Reaction Force in place in case the ambassador. I don't know if it was the Secretary of State's responsibility or fault that there wasn't better security, but I'm sure the question got asked at some point and I'm looking for Hillary's answer.

The narrative they are trying to push is that Hillary is a puppet of Syd Blumenthal and are trying to paint her as a cronyist who is more interested in doing her friends' and donors' bidding than protecting the peoples' servants.

The summary is that Hillary sat there and patiently answered questions from increasingly hysterical congresspersons and they looked really dumb and bad. Hillary looked really competent and calm in the face of harsh questions.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Time to throw some logs onto the eternal Hillary vs. Bernie flamewar: In addition to previous claims that he's sexist, Hillary is now insinuating that Bernie is racist.

She could also be talking about, you know, Republicans. But, that would be a lot of mental twisting for a Slate writer.

On Terra Firma
Feb 12, 2008

Armyman25 posted:

Does anybody have a a good breakdown or summary of the Hillary's 11 hour question session in front of the Benghazi committee?

The basic charge I see is that the State Department was responsible for security for diplomatic personnel, and that inadequate security was provided in Benghazi, with no Quick Reaction Force in place in case the ambassador. I don't know if it was the Secretary of State's responsibility or fault that there wasn't better security, but I'm sure the question got asked at some point and I'm looking for Hillary's answer.

I don't think the State department could do much of anything with congressional approval which they did not give. The response team was DoD I think as well.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

blue squares posted:

What is it like to live in a state that isn't run by idiots?

Minnesota's pretty nice and our major metro area is consistently rated one of the most livable in the country. The worst things are long winters, mediocre weed, and stupid blue laws.

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

She could also be talking about, you know, Republicans.

She could be, she clearly isn't, but it could happen!

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