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So now that the expansion's been out for a while and we have what seems to be most of the items available, what's everyone's favourite new items? Personally I really like Athame, Maw of the Void and Crown of Light.
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Nov 8, 2015 05:49
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Woops double post.
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Nov 8, 2015 05:50
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It'd be cool if Speed just made you super-fast too. Everyone goes fast!
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Nov 8, 2015 05:50
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Geight posted:It'd be cool if Speed just made you super-fast too. Everyone goes fast! It probably wouldn't be too bad if it didn't stick you with just base Isaac. He has nothing, and can't really deal with some of the fast mobs. Gemini, Steven, and Blighted Ovum are pretty much run enders. Tractor Beam is my personal favorite. The accuracy boost that item provides is just amazing. Granted, it actually makes the first phase of the Haunt a lot harder.
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Nov 8, 2015 05:54
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Einwand posted:So now that the expansion's been out for a while and we have what seems to be most of the items available, what's everyone's favourite new items? I like the coin and nail tear items. the spider that lets you see enemy health bars/damage numbers is really nifty and should probably just be something you always have by default the synergies are by and large cooler than the items themselves tho
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Nov 8, 2015 05:56
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Jibo posted:Has anyone done the math to figure out what the probable range of Ultra Greed kills it would take to fill the coin machine is assuming you are using each character for Greed Mode? 56 assuming no azazel
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Nov 8, 2015 06:00
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Waffle! posted:What are the attack stages for Hush? (Are we still spoiling this?) Hmm, maybe that wouldn't be so bad. The main problem with soy milk is that most of your tears miss because the sheer number of tears knocking the enemies back makes their movement unpredictable. Hush is giant and rooted to the ground, so you could guarantee that every shot hits. I wish I had thought of this when I saw soy milk in hte blue womb earlier, I might have checked it out.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:12
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Einwand posted:So now that the expansion's been out for a while and we have what seems to be most of the items available, what's everyone's favourite new items? Maw of the Void is really really good. I wish it worked with the blindfold, though.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:12
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Another buff that Soy Milk got is that in Rebirth, picking it up capped your tears stat. It doesn't do that anymore in Afterbirth (or the cap just got a massive increase), so if you already have a high rate of fire, Soy Milk will increase that by an absurd amount.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:20
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that's pretty cool, especially for libra. at least now you aren't getting hosed by even encountering soy milk since it isn't a special item anymore
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Nov 8, 2015 06:21
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Sampson + Lusty Blood + Boss Rush = hilarity. Every wave I was literally more powerful than the one before, and if I got a boss that spawned additional enemies or got hit myself it just sped up even mroe.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:31
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Any tips for tackling the Suicide King challenge? 11 attempts in and I still can't get a good gauge on whether a bomb will hit an enemy/obstacle or just sail past and nail me in the face. God help me if I get a small room full of spiders.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:32
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Dr. Fetus posted:Another buff that Soy Milk got is that in Rebirth, picking it up capped your tears stat. It doesn't do that anymore in Afterbirth (or the cap just got a massive increase), so if you already have a high rate of fire, Soy Milk will increase that by an absurd amount. I think they might have uncapped it on its own, letting you get the intended 30 shots per second out of it instead of 15. Still annoying without something like mutant spider or polyphemus backing it up but usable.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:35
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ChickenHeart posted:Any tips for tackling the Suicide King challenge? 11 attempts in and I still can't get a good gauge on whether a bomb will hit an enemy/obstacle or just sail past and nail me in the face. God help me if I get a small room full of spiders. The actual projectile is the shadow of the tear and it flies completely straight so just use that.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:35
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ChickenHeart posted:Any tips for tackling the Suicide King challenge? 11 attempts in and I still can't get a good gauge on whether a bomb will hit an enemy/obstacle or just sail past and nail me in the face. God help me if I get a small room full of spiders. It is impossible for your projectile to go over an enemy. Even if it is completely over their head, it will still explode for full damage. Run at your enemies before you fire to get the thing going at full speed and ensure that they don;t duck out of the way in time. Watch the shadow of the projectile to know where it actually is in relation to the enemies.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:37
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Actually, I got that wrong. What actually happened with Soy Milk was that it was bugged in Rebirth. Due to the way the tear cap and fire rate was handled, it was firing at half the rate it should have been. In Rebirth, Soy Milk fixed Isaac's fire rate at 15 tears per second. That got fixed in Afterbirth, so it fixes Isaac's fire rate to be 30 tears per second. I said before that Soy Milk doubled Isaac's DPS if all tears hit their mark. Yeah, uh I was referring to the unbugged version.  At 15 tears per second, Soy Milk was always a damage decrease, even if all tears hit. That's why Soy Milk was always a terrible pickup unless you had Libra, because it wasn't working right. Now in Afterbirth, Soy Milk is no longer the run ruiner it used to be. Might not be an every run pickup (i.e. don't pick it up if you have Brimstone) but it's a nice buff.
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Nov 8, 2015 06:41
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Soy milk's real usefulness comes from getting it early; if you get it from the beginning and go up from there, it can actually be pretty useful. But if you get it once you've got a bunch of damage ups or w/e in the middle of a run, it's not ever gonna be worth it unless your firerate is dogshit. edit: Wow, does glass cannon really take away your soul/black hearts now too? What a lame nerf. That makes the risk way, way too high to be worth it. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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Nov 8, 2015 07:00
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Jesus the Guardian challenge is so poorly designed. I finally got through it by having a poo poo ton of orbitals and basically destroying rooms in 2 seconds before the Punching Bag could do something stupid. Now I only have the other two poorly designed challenges to go (Onan's Streak and Speed!)
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Nov 8, 2015 07:42
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CJacobs posted:Soy milk's real usefulness comes from getting it early; if you get it from the beginning and go up from there, it can actually be pretty useful. But if you get it once you've got a bunch of damage ups or w/e in the middle of a run, it's not ever gonna be worth it unless your firerate is dogshit. Wait seriously... I was wanting to get around to trying that item out because it actually seemed pretty fun.
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Nov 8, 2015 07:44
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Welp, just beat Speed! I got the 8-Inch Nails on the first item room, then Brimstone in the first Devil Deal, and then a Book of Revelations for survivability. There were some other damage ups in there, but suffice it to say I finished with half a heart and 1 minute left. And this only happened because my Womb 1 boss fight was only 3 rooms from the entrance and I happened to pick the right way accidentally. While the challenge is bullshit, I have to say that Brimstone with knockback is hilarious.
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Nov 8, 2015 07:45
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The good news is that I got it working again. The bad news is that my pretty awesome Cain run was gone. Life is hard sometimes. Dammerung fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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Nov 8, 2015 08:02
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 I wanna give a shoutout to my boy dry baby I love you dry baby
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Nov 8, 2015 08:27
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Einwand posted:So now that the expansion's been out for a while and we have what seems to be most of the items available, what's everyone's favourite new items? The fruitcake, glowing hourglass, pokeball and bumbo are my favourites. They might not be the most powerful items, but they are so much fun to use.
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Nov 8, 2015 08:46
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Einwand posted:So now that the expansion's been out for a while and we have what seems to be most of the items available, what's everyone's favourite new items? Of the ones I've gotten, I think the Car Battery, 8 Inch Nails, and Toxic Shock are my favorite. I've only gotten to use about half of the new items so far, though.
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Nov 8, 2015 08:53
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Diplopia is really cool, though sometimes depressing if you get through the whole run without ever having pedestal items that are worth duplicating. I also really like Dead Eye, it creates a fun and slightly different way to try and play the game.
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Nov 8, 2015 09:06
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SuicideSnowman posted:Jesus the Guardian challenge is so poorly designed. I finally got through it by having a poo poo ton of orbitals and basically destroying rooms in 2 seconds before the Punching Bag could do something stupid. Now I only have the other two poorly designed challenges to go (Onan's Streak and Speed!) i really liked onan's streak, and imo its one of the better challenges of both rebirth and afterbirth
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Nov 8, 2015 09:23
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Waffle! posted:What are the attack stages for Hush? (Are we still spoiling this?) iirc it does regular shooty stuff with some "arrow" clumps of shots, then does cirlces, goes underground a bit and comes back for another spam with circles of bullets rotating counter and clockwise, then spams some flies, repeats some bullet patterns, and at about the halfway mark, does his only really scary attack, the one where the bullets fly from one of the walls. after that he spams a lot of mini hushes, some prolapsed rectums that shoot 3 way bullets, and right at the end he does the beams that leave behind slippery terrain. at one point he also does that sequence where his shots split into 4, which split further more into 4 but its somewhere in the middle
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Nov 8, 2015 09:26
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NO! Never again! is instantly my favorite trinket. Went into a library and got holy tears and virgo. I only drop it before devil/curse rooms if I'm going for guppy.Alkydere posted:Sampson + Lusty Blood + Boss Rush = hilarity. Every wave I was literally more powerful than the one before, and if I got a boss that spawned additional enemies or got hit myself it just sped up even mroe.
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Nov 8, 2015 09:39
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LorrdErnie posted:Wait seriously... I was wanting to get around to trying that item out because it actually seemed pretty fun. Yeah it's never really worth using now, unless you're playing lost I guess. I'm glad I had a couple of good runs with it before they killed it.
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Nov 8, 2015 10:59
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Is a win streak of -142 bad? I feel like I'm not winning enough.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:06
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Nighthand posted:Speed is such an obnoxious challenge. I can't get to Womb 2 before the time limit no matter what I do, and the health drain kills me before I can find the boss room. I even loving skipped two full floors with Undefined on a run and couldn't get there fast enough. Speed is the only new challenge that took me several tries. It's utter horse poo poo. And the timer can actually kill you after you've picked up the trophy. 
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Nov 8, 2015 11:17
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I feel like the new balance patches are punishing people who are not as good at the game because the people that are good appear to be steamrolling things. Which, of course they would be, they're good at the game. A lot of this stuff feels unfair to people who would rather sit down and bang out an azazel run or use glass cannon since they know those are characters and items they can have fun with.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:23
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kemikalkadet posted:Yeah it's never really worth using now, unless you're playing lost I guess. I'm glad I had a couple of good runs with it before they killed it. Edmund's actual statement in response to people saying that Glass Cannon is poo poo now is as follows: Edmund McMillen posted:gently caress off this item is loving bonkers, if you pick this up and cant figure out ways to play around it or abuse its power you are doing it wrong. this item in its current state is one of my faves. On the plus side, the tumor transformation removing your normal tears is a bug, so that'll hopefully be fixed.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:27
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Oh god don't use Tammy's head in the Suicide King challenge. EDIT: Cricket's head might not be a good idea either. EDIT: Nevermind, just got Brimstone. RIP Challenge. RatHat fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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Nov 8, 2015 11:35
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:I feel like the new balance patches are punishing people who are not as good at the game because the people that are good appear to be steamrolling things. Which, of course they would be, they're good at the game. A lot of this stuff feels unfair to people who would rather sit down and bang out an azazel run or use glass cannon since they know those are characters and items they can have fun with. Welcome to every roguelike ever.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:37
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He still really needs to do something about the Boss Rush. There are too many enemies and it takes way too long, it isn't fun or worth the items it gives you.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:39
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trucutru posted:Welcome to every roguelike ever. If it's gonna be like that then, at the very least these balances should affect hard mode and normal mode should stay the same. Anyone who considers themselves good at the game only plays hard mode anyway.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:41
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:A lot of this stuff feels unfair to people who would rather sit down and bang out an azazel run or use glass cannon since they know those are characters and items they can have fun with. I honestly can't decide which Azazel nerf I hate more, the increased charge time or the damage debuff. Thankfully they're doing something about that in the next patch.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:41
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Grapplejack posted:He still really needs to do something about the Boss Rush. There are too many enemies and it takes way too long, it isn't fun or worth the items it gives you. Boss Rush needs to be a smaller random/semi-random selection of bosses. Yes that will be easier but as it stands nobody bothers with boss rush unless they're unlocking an item from it.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:45
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So, it turns out the "bugged" Azazel nerf wasn't technically a bug. Edmund mistyped in an email that Azazel's damage and charge time need to be lowered, instead of his intended "damage OR charge time" message.
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Nov 8, 2015 11:47
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