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I kinda feel that lock-picking/hacking should be available to all characters. It's lovely to be hard-locked out of content (getting different content is awesome, though). At least provide players with alternative solutions to crack a safe or a computer (automated hack-tool, blow-torch, explosives, bashing, machine-whispering, stupid guesses and so on) in addition to variants (different types of locks, computer systems). Add some penalties if absolutely necessary.
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limeincoke posted:So was wary of picking this game up due to my exhaustion with open world games with crafting systems nowadays. Is this another case where looting items besides crafting materials in the world is beyond pointless because any crafted item is 1000% better than anything you find? And the game becomes spending 5 hours wandering around picking flowers and poo poo for crafting materials? You don't craft exactly, you mod your weapons with different characteristics. It's not really all that necessary other than to really pimp out your legendary weapons. My most powerful items are things I've picked up from raiders and such, the crafted things are just to give me a good version of a gun that uses a different ammo type. I should honestly scrap the legendary weapon I got on my first legendary kill, it has trivialized everything I've encountered since with a massive bleed effect.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:22
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Azhais posted:The lockpicking minigame has been used in like 90% of stealth shooters in recent memory and is so trivial I don't know why people whine about it. It takes longer to bring up the interface than it does to pick the lock But then you lock away the ability to unlock higher level locks behind a level cap? It's dumb enough needing to get a perk to even attempt a higher level lock, but to then require you to be a certain level before that perk even becomes available?
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Nov 13, 2015 23:22
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schemie posted:player.removeperk <perkid> Why use a jpg list when the game is happy to do perk lookups for you? Help <name> 4 type whatever perk you want as <name> and it'll list the ID for you right there in the console
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Nov 13, 2015 23:22
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Where the hell does this game save screenshots? I took one, Steam said it'd been taken, now I can't find it anywhere.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:23
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anatomi posted:I kinda feel that lock-picking/hacking should be available to all characters. It's lovely to be hard-locked out of content (getting different content is awesome, though). Exactly, take Deus Ex Human Revolution. If you don't upgrade your hacking skill, you can still buy auto hacks to get through high level locks. You pay money but you get results and it allows you to put more points somewhere else.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:23
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Where the hell does this game save screenshots? I took one, Steam said it'd been taken, now I can't find it anywhere. Its in your steam folder for some bizarre reason.
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Nov 13, 2015 23:25
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Where the hell does this game save screenshots? I took one, Steam said it'd been taken, now I can't find it anywhere.  Select a screenshot and it'll give you a "view on disk" option. Kea posted:Its in your steam folder for some bizarre reason. Because it's a steamworks game?
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anatomi posted:I kinda feel that lock-picking/hacking should be available to all characters. There are two companions that will lockpick and hack for you, respectively. e: To be more specific, Cait will pick locks and Valentine will hack. Mulva fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Nov 13, 2015 23:26
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limeincoke posted:So was wary of picking this game up due to my exhaustion with open world games with crafting systems nowadays. Is this another case where looting items besides crafting materials in the world is beyond pointless because any crafted item is 1000% better than anything you find? And the game becomes spending 5 hours wandering around picking flowers and poo poo for crafting materials? edit: level 15ish, killin supermutants and using laser rifles, but I still use my heavily modded .38 because it has night vision and 48 rounds in the mag so it's a pretty good sniper rifle for trash or when I don't wanna burn better ammo. I've got like 4 settlements, and 2 more I'm about to start working on. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Nov 13, 2015 23:27
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anatomi posted:I kinda feel that lock-picking/hacking should be available to all characters. It's lovely to be hard-locked out of content (getting different content is awesome, though). You should always be rewarded for investing in lockpicking or hacking if they're perks/skills (or any other perk or skill that comes up in a quest)--that different content should be in some way more rewarding (loot or just new scenes/dialog/information) or provide some sort of shortcut. New Vegas, for the most part, does a really good job within its quest design of both rewarding you for investing in skills (not just lockpicking and hacking, but medicine, repair, all of those) and offering multiple other ways to complete the quests, too. It's neat. Sometimes it's a shortcut, sometimes it's more rewarding, and sometimes it opens up a whole new way to do a quest, and those are all great. Arcsquad12 posted:But then you lock away the ability to unlock higher level locks behind a level cap? It's dumb enough needing to get a perk to even attempt a higher level lock, but to then require you to be a certain level before that perk even becomes available? Requiring a certain perk level to even attempt it is good because if that wasn't there, there'd be no reason for those to be perks anyway. But pairing that with a level requirement to get those perks is kind of rear end, I agree. I understand a level requirement on some extremely powerful perks or the perks that supercharge your damage, especially because some of them are pretty low on their SPECIAL stat's line, but for things like hacking and lockpicking it's just kind of lovely. (Did you see the mod I posted on the previous page? I think you'll like it.)
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Zaphod42 posted:Why use a jpg list when the game is happy to do perk lookups for you? Oh man awesome thanks! I was thinking about trying to OCR that image to get them in a better format.
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Lady Naga posted:Because it's a steamworks game? 
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Azhais posted:The lockpicking minigame has been used in like 90% of stealth shooters in recent memory and is so trivial I don't know why people whine about it. It takes longer to bring up the interface than it does to pick the lock At least this time Bethesda put lockpicks on every vendor inventory list, so they're not the rarest loving thing in the wasteland, like in 3. It's still ridiculous that I can't craft what is essentially a thin piece of wire.
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Hey man, I've seen some duuuuuumb rear end poo poo in this thread. Can't always be sure something's sarcasm.
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Lady Naga posted:
Jesus, I'd never have found that in a million years the way I was looking for it. Thanks.
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sector_corrector posted:At least this time Bethesda put lockpicks on every vendor inventory list, so they're not the rarest loving thing in the wasteland, like in 3. It's still ridiculous that I can't craft what is essentially a thin piece of wire. I'm level 14 and pick every lock I can see and I'm sitting on about 40 bobby pins. They rain from the loving sky in this one.
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Harrow posted:I'm level 14 and pick every lock I can see and I'm sitting on about 40 bobby pins. They rain from the loving sky in this one. I remember thinking "how did I get 60 bobby pins" last night
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Nov 13, 2015 23:31
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Lady Naga posted:Hey man, I've seen some duuuuuumb rear end poo poo in this thread. Can't always be sure something's sarcasm. Yeah I might have even given him the benefit of the doubt where he didn't deserve it? I don't even know. 
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sector_corrector posted:At least this time Bethesda put lockpicks on every vendor inventory list, so they're not the rarest loving thing in the wasteland, like in 3. It's still ridiculous that I can't craft what is essentially a thin piece of wire. And as noted, you can re-lock safes with terminals and get the exp again, although it's kinda monotonous I tried it three times to verify.
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Bethesda 1: "How many raiders can we cram into a factory?" Bethesda 2: "About a million." Bethesda 1: "gently caress that, how about two million!" And that's the story of how I died 14 times three hours into the game.
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For anyone who did that quest at the quarry near Concord, make sure you return later once the area resets. I kind of wandered into it, but it was a good time. I also got my ammo issues mostly set and made it to the north/northeastern edge of the map. There's a lot of really neat places around there and a few surprise deathclaws so have fun! gromdul posted:The supply train guys need to get in and out of town, I assume. Walls aren't attackable, they don't have HP or anything. I dunno, I kind of assumed towns needed a gate. Maybe I'm wrong. Even with a gate the pathing is screwy for the trader's brahmin. There is a wooden wall you can build that has a gate. But I know in some settlements I've seen supply guys get caught up on my defenses on the sides of the settlement because they just decided to go that way for reasons. I just got a bunch of super mutants attacking Sanctuary myself - it looked like most of them spawned somewhere near the bridge because most of them got mowed down by all the turrets/guards I have there. But there were two at least in the center of town too. I'm not sure what the hell happened, but three of my settlements got attacked almost at the same time and one spawned a legendary raider.
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Steve2911 posted:Bethesda 1: "How many raiders can we cram into a factory?" Corvega? gently caress Corvega. That poo poo just wasn't even fun.
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sector_corrector posted:At least this time Bethesda put lockpicks on every vendor inventory list, so they're not the rarest loving thing in the wasteland, like in 3. It's still ridiculous that I can't craft what is essentially a thin piece of wire. I think I lost 3 total bobby pins in my last play through of 3, I ended with over 200 of them I lose more of them in 4 because it remembers damage from one lock to the next now, but I still have done almost nothing and have over 60. I don't know what to tell you. I do dislike the level locks, it should just be a free perk to take, but on the other hand this does let them hand out cool poo poo at specific levels which isn't 100% awful. I like it better than Skyrim where they may as well not had any locked doors because I could pick anything at level 1 without any investment in the skill at all, at that point why even have the minigame
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Steve2911 posted:Bethesda 1: "How many raiders can we cram into a factory?" I'm pretty sure they put that there to try and force you to use their poo poo power armor system.
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http://music.origintech.ca/PURE%20VOMIT.mp3
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sector_corrector posted:I'm pretty sure they put that there to try and force you to use their poo poo power armor system. Look at this guy who doesn't like power armor
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hello, friends
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sector_corrector posted:I'm pretty sure they put that there to try and force you to use their poo poo power armor system. Awesome* power armor.
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lol if you dont think lockpicking is a skill and should just be given to uin a n RPG do you think in real life life someone could handle you a bobby pin and before the roof crushes you you coul open the door? doubt it, so why think your character in avideo game doesnt need to use lockpicks? you would be a pancake why complain bout the lockpicking system at all? the hacking one is the bad one and makes no sense there is no rhyme or reason to ita nd the lockout is pointless, its just like click everything click ~ and type unlock or if you feeling extra saucy type LOCK  i think both systems are dumb but they make sense because not everything would be opened you would need to unlock it with a bobby pin and of course you cant craft it i dont see you going to ace hardware and making lock picks en masse IRL and seling them on ebay stating "real fallout 4 memmoribilia" lol im still mad how much I Hate dogmeat and piper better be a good companion im so mad that people like dogmeat he is loving spastic and useless and just runs in front of you non stop what a terrible companion but ~bethesda~ ugh back to the wastes with you you fuckin dog no wonder you were abaneond at a gay station
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Daktari posted:What are the default values? Super Easy: Legendary Enemies appear 0.25x as often relative to normal Easy: Legendary Enemies appear 0.5x as often relative to normal Normal: Base chance to appear. Hard: Legendary Enemies appear 1.5x as often relative to normal. Very Hard: Legendary Enemies appear 2.0x as often relative to normal. Survival: Legendary Enemies appear 3.0x as often relative to normal. So normal is 1.0, SE is 0.25, E is 0.5, H is 1.5, VH is 2.0, SV is 3.0
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anatomi posted:I kinda feel that lock-picking/hacking should be available to all characters. It's lovely to be hard-locked out of content (getting different content is awesome, though). You have companions that can hack/lockpick if you can't.
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Steve2911 posted:Bethesda 1: "How many raiders can we cram into a factory?" Corvega's a deathtrap, but let me tell you if you're trying to find some gears that place has gears for loving days.
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Meowbot posted:lol if you dont think lockpicking is a skill and should just be given to uin a n RPG Source your quotes 
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Also yeah they nailed the feeling of Power Armor actually feeling badass, I'd rather have this than Fo3's "oh no actually it's just endgame armor" any day.
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Zaphod42 posted:Source your quotes I am legit surprised you haven't encountered meowbot before now. That's just how he posts.
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started indifferent to power armor but with some upgrades and more fuel cells I love this poo poo feel like a space marine loving poo poo up and it owns
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sector_corrector posted:I'm pretty sure they put that there to try and force you to use their poo poo power armor system. The power armor and everything about it owns actually
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please dont disparage dogmeat, he's a good boy, yes he IS a good boy 
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I am constantly baffled by how bad people are at videogames.
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