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MIGF is already the forums' loudest and most committed anti-Semite so maybe he's just annoyed that people see literal children as strong competition against him.
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Dr. Tough posted:lol at everyone in this thread losing their poo poo over all this. Have you guys been under a rock for the last few decades? This is minor league stuff for the GOP The people who would be most affected by these policies haven't really had time to acclimate themselves to the GOP
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Nov 19, 2015 14:33
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LeeMajors posted:I don't know. Granted, I wasn't around for segregation and whatnot--but I feel like the naked aggression and pants-making GBS threads xenophobia has ratcheted to a fever pitch on the right to an amplitude that feels groundswell-y. Unapologetic racism and exclusionary politics...and these people aren't being admonished--they're tolerated. I was only 15-16 when 9/11 happened and I don't remember hearing nearly as much of the same insanity people are spewing now. I don't remember anyone ever mentioning rounding people up and putting them in loving camps. Granted I wasn't as politically aware back then, but I feel like it's much worse now than it was in the years following the attack.
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On Terra Firma posted:I was only 15-16 when 9/11 happened and I don't remember hearing nearly as much of the same insanity people are spewing now. I don't remember anyone ever mentioning rounding people up and putting them in loving camps. Granted I wasn't as politically aware back then, but I feel like it's much worse now than it was in the years following the attack. You don't remember "Nuke Mecca"?
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On Terra Firma posted:I was only 15-16 when 9/11 happened and I don't remember hearing nearly as much of the same insanity people are spewing now. I don't remember anyone ever mentioning rounding people up and putting them in loving camps. Granted I wasn't as politically aware back then, but I feel like it's much worse now than it was in the years following the attack. it was pretty insane, cries for nukes, glass parking lots etc.
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Nov 19, 2015 14:54
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I'm pretty sure my dad who was a pretty outspoken liberal in the south did make mention that any further attacks should be met with the bombing of a major city in the ME. He was also an avid Howard Dean supporter. Edit: Pretty Michael Schruher called for the same thing during a talk at my school in 07
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Nov 19, 2015 14:57
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The Real Foogla posted:it was pretty insane, cries for nukes, glass parking lots etc. I'm hoping it's a fever dream but I'm pretty sure I remember Ann Coulter literally calling for us to forcibly convert Muslims to Christianity and kill those that refuse at some point. I'm glad she's not in the public eye anymore.
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Gravel Gravy posted:I'm pretty sure my dad who was a pretty outspoken liberal in the south did make mention that any further attacks should be met with the bombing of a major city in the ME. Donald Trump, once again, has the proper answer to ISIL that I hope everyone in this thread can agree with: "Bomb the poo poo outta them."
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Nov 19, 2015 14:59
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Ripoff posted:I'm hoping it's a fever dream but I'm pretty sure I remember Ann Coulter literally calling for us to forcibly convert Muslims to Christianity and kill those that refuse at some point. I'm glad she's not in the public eye anymore.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:02
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The Real Foogla posted:it was pretty insane, cries for nukes, glass parking lots etc. Were governors or members of congress shouting this at the top of their lungs? Maybe social media is just amplifying the crazy right now.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:07
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On Terra Firma posted:Were governors or members of congress shouting this at the top of their lungs? Maybe social media is just amplifying the crazy right now. I don't know about sitting governors, but there was a lot of weird rhetoric around the time.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:12
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Cool story summarizing new research into Madison's notes on the Convention, which are the only complete record of the event. Turns out, ol' James applied the white out quite liberally to his own record! "Hmm, looks like I supported monarchy and slavery at the convention.... needs a bit of touch up work...."
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Nov 19, 2015 15:24
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The Real Foogla posted:it was pretty insane, cries for nukes, glass parking lots etc. It was bad, but it really does feel like there are more people now in actual positions of power pushing barely concealed messages of bigotry and hate, and that the general support for that kind of rhetoric is a lot stronger.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:27
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computer parts posted:You don't remember "Nuke Mecca"? Bush wasn't saying "Nuke Mecca" - In fact he was saying that we're not at war with Islam and that most muslims are our friends, etc. Also to not be afraid to go shopping.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:27
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Paradoxish posted:It was bad, but it really does feel like there are more people now in actual positions of power pushing barely concealed messages of bigotry and hate, and that the general support for that kind of rhetoric is a lot stronger. I don't think we've reached the level of the president's advisors pushing for and actually getting a shooting war against an unrelated country.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:31
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As someone who has been a big critic of Obama I really feel like his reaction to these Paris attacks has been spot on.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:32
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Keep in mind that Arabs and other people from the Middle East used to be reliable Republican voters. Something changed around September 2001 to swing most of them towards the Democratic Party.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:32
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A good read this morning in the Atlantic on Republican's prescriptive nonsense on "radical Islam" https://newrepublic.com/article/124170/gops-obsession-radical-islam
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Nov 19, 2015 15:33
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hobbesmaster posted:Bush wasn't saying "Nuke Mecca" - In fact he was saying that we're not at war with Islam and that most muslims are our friends, etc. There seems to be an inconsistent question being asked here. Some people want to know what general sentiment was, others are looking how people in any seat of power (governors, senators, etc) were saying, and some are looking to the President himself. In the first case, "Nuke Mecca" is entirely accurate. The second case is harder to determine. The third case definitely generated a response that would not be out of place today (or at least wouldn't be less cruel).
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Nov 19, 2015 15:33
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haveblue posted:I don't think we've reached the level of the president's advisors pushing for and actually getting a shooting war against an unrelated country. But those were continued cronyist policies of the Reagan-era elite and not necessarily an expression of racism/xenophobia. The general population's racism just enabled it to happen without too much scrutiny.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:35
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Joementum posted:Cool story summarizing new research into Madison's notes on the Convention, which are the only complete record of the event. Turns out, ol' James applied the white out quite liberally to his own record! "Hmm, looks like I supported monarchy and slavery at the convention.... needs a bit of touch up work...." Big news, think it will have any effect on the election?
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Nov 19, 2015 15:38
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For the record, of all things we can say about Bush, you can def say that he or at least his advisers were conscious of not directly fanning islamophbia in the way the current GOP do, which is sort referenced in the piece I jus tlinked.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:38
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It would be a bit different if we didn't have desperate presidential candidates trying to froth up the electorate.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:40
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The NRA is currently fighting to block the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act, which would prohibit people on the no-fly list from buying guns. The bill was introduced by Peter King who, as we know, has an interesting history w/r/t arming terrorists.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:41
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For fucks sake Joementum Reported cases of chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis have all increased for the first time since 2006 Get your poo poo together man
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Nov 19, 2015 15:42
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So have I stopped being Dave and now I'm Asawin?
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Nov 19, 2015 15:43
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:A good read this morning in the Atlantic on Republican's prescriptive nonsense on "radical Islam" That's a pretty good article. Shame it'll just be ignored though.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:44
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I don't really understand the no-fly list. Does it mean LEOs are actively trying to find the person to arrest them, or can people live a completely normal life, then go to the airport and suddenly find they aren't allowed to go on the flight for no apparent reason? Because if it's the latter then I think I'm with the NRA on this. If white people can have guns, everyone should be able to have guns.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:46
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On Terra Firma posted:Were governors or members of congress shouting this at the top of their lungs? Maybe social media is just amplifying the crazy right now. I remember right-wing pundits saying all that poo poo (Malkin's "In Defense of Internment" came out in 2004), and maybe some rando congressmen from buttfuck Missouri, but the Republican Party by and large kept a tight grip on official Islamophobia, and took the line that Islam isn't our enemy and Mid-East Muslims are crying out for American liberators to bring them democracy. I think it's just that the Republicans let the Tea Party genie out of the bottle to beat Obama and now they can't control the crazy, so they have Jeb and Rubio trying to compete with the poo poo Trump and Carson are saying
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Nov 19, 2015 15:47
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I wouldn't say people have changed that much since 9/11. The difference is that most people in 2001 (especially the Vietnam generation) were passively watching TV news and yelling at no one. Today most people can go on twitter or a comment section.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:47
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joeburz posted:This map owns right click on the image and search google - mine thinks it is a map of chik-fil-a locations
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Nov 19, 2015 15:49
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VitalSigns posted:I remember right-wing pundits saying all that poo poo (Malkin's "In Defense of Internment" came out in 2004), and maybe some rando congressmen from buttfuck Missouri, but the Republican Party by and large kept a tight grip on official Islamophobia, and took the line that Islam isn't our enemy and Mid-East Muslims are crying out for American liberators to bring them democracy. One of the biggest proponents of curbing Islamophobia is loving Grover Norquist.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:50
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Yeah I think things like Facebook, Twitter, etc have just amplified what was already there
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Nov 19, 2015 15:51
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Phone posted:One of the biggest proponents of curbing Islamophobia is loving Grover Norquist. Being married to a Palestinian Muslim will do that.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:54
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There's also the fact that the GOP is no longer in charge of the presidency and don't have to even pretend to act like adults.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:55
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ProfessorCirno posted:There's also the fact that the GOP is no longer in charge of the presidency and don't have to even pretend to act like adults. That's not entirely true. For all the things I want to say about John McCain, he largely was an adult.
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Nov 19, 2015 15:59
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That's not entirely true. On any issue not directly relating to Obama, anyway.
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computer parts posted:Being married to a Palestinian Muslim will do that. Typical GOPer who's empathy doesn't extend one centimeter beyond their kitchen table.
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This is incredible. Bringing back the empty chair meme - because it worked so well the first time.
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