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What is the easiest way, using Cheat Engine or whatever, to get all of The Lost's unlocks? I finally realized I will never dedicate enough time to get them legitimately, but i want the rewards!
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Power of Pecota posted:Re: people who were happy to see the Stopwatch nerfed, how do you feel about Godhead as an item? Like, if you get it at any point in a run you've basically won to the same extent.
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Nov 22, 2015 07:36
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Rorus Raz posted:Pretty sure PHD has no effect on new pills since I got One Makes You Larger with it (unless there's some secret positive that I'm missing) the "Good" part of one makes you larger is that if you've taken so many "one makes you smaller" pills that you can't see yourself, well..you might!
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Nov 22, 2015 07:37
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Power of Pecota posted:Re: people who were happy to see the Stopwatch nerfed, how do you feel about Godhead as an item? Like, if you get it at any point in a run you've basically won to the same extent. That's a much rarer item though. It's in what I would argue to be the most seldom seen item pool and it only has a chance of being there on any given run.
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Nov 22, 2015 07:39
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Woo finally got the Keeper. Now I just need to do Greed mode with the Lost and the Keeper and I never have to do it again. EDIT: Keeper sucks. Lost with Holy Mantle is better. RatHat fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 07:57
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RatHat posted:You know you have to die in a sacrifice room right? Yes. That is what I did.
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Nov 22, 2015 08:34
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The Mysterious Paper randomly imitates other paper items, so it will only sometimes unlock The Lost.
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Nov 22, 2015 08:40
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Power of Pecota posted:Re: people who were happy to see the Stopwatch nerfed, how do you feel about Godhead as an item? Like, if you get it at any point in a run you've basically won to the same extent. Godhead is fun and synergises with your build for cool tear effects. Stopwatch just makes everything slow.
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Nov 22, 2015 09:14
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I just wish they would push their ideas a little more to give items interesting effects, or maybe at least interesting nerfs. Like the Stopwatch; you could make it slowly run out with a timer every level. Maybe only a battery can recharge it if it depletes. Maybe it could stop working for the floor if you take damage, whatever the source. You could even make it a goddamn activatable item, for those times two Adversaries decide to meet you in a narrow hallway, as an 'Oh poo poo' button. Or make it only activate on SOME rooms, like a better Broken Stopwatch. Or just, christ, they could learn how to modify the value of items in a shop so if it shows up it costs $25 or $50 or something. Making it only work on hit feels boring and it makes it yet another backhanded way to force the Lost to be a misery to play. I wish I got Edmund's hangups. ??? was a fine challenge character way back. Mostly the same, unique health system that demanded better play, slightly better damage to help compensate, some really fun unlocks, and it feels like a properly simple hard character to play with. I had figured they'd do some extra-hard demon style character who can only use and heal with black hearts, which would be even more of a challenge without being totally stupid (if they started with 3). Maybe that's the idea with the Keeper. I dunno. He's not as bad as a mantle-less Lost, but he's pretty boring. Which is more weird! Because even nerfed Lilith is really fun and a good character!
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Nov 22, 2015 09:42
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Black August posted:I just wish they would push their ideas a little more to give items interesting effects, or maybe at least interesting nerfs. Like the Stopwatch; you could make it slowly run out with a timer every level. Maybe only a battery can recharge it if it depletes. Maybe it could stop working for the floor if you take damage, whatever the source. You could even make it a goddamn activatable item, for those times two Adversaries decide to meet you in a narrow hallway, as an 'Oh poo poo' button. Or make it only activate on SOME rooms, like a better Broken Stopwatch. Or just, christ, they could learn how to modify the value of items in a shop so if it shows up it costs $25 or $50 or something. Making it only work on hit feels boring and it makes it yet another backhanded way to force the Lost to be a misery to play. I feel like weighted costs for items in the shop is something Edmund has talked about before but still not implemented. It's technically a nerf to some items because they'd cost more but I'd pay 30 cents for a Stopwatch or Blue Candle or Sack Head (god that's a strong item). While we're at it, though I don't think it's as necessary, I'd probably get more use out of weaker shop items like Ladder or D12 if they cost like 10 cents instead, but that's less important than making the OP items just cost more.
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Nov 22, 2015 10:47
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:I feel like weighted costs for items in the shop is something Edmund has talked about before but still not implemented. It's technically a nerf to some items because they'd cost more but I'd pay 30 cents for a Stopwatch or Blue Candle or Sack Head (god that's a strong item). Well Edmund is addressing that right now, but God knows how he will. There's so many trash items in the game now that they almost feel like filler to make the average and better stuff harder to come by. Well, trash, or so situational and edge-case useful as to get passed up 99% of the time.
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Nov 22, 2015 10:52
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Black August posted:Well Edmund is addressing that right now, but God knows how he will. There's so many trash items in the game now that they almost feel like filler to make the average and better stuff harder to come by. Well, trash, or so situational and edge-case useful as to get passed up 99% of the time. I hate all the super bland "adds 1 to *stat*" items that clog up the pools, and I also hate the tons of bad activated items that no one will ever want versus another cool passive effect.
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Nov 22, 2015 11:14
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poor Dead Sea Scrolls, useless since even the first game's release
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Nov 22, 2015 11:15
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I tried to use Dead Sea Scrolls yesterday, for the first time ever. Even tried using it in a fight with Krampus. I got the Kamikaze effect twice in a row and died
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Nov 22, 2015 13:13
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Did my first real Keeper run just now. Swallowed Penny, Piggybank and Sack of Pennies by Caves 1. Added Fanny Pack and Jar of Flies later on. Lots of damage and Holy Mantle from an angel room; beat ??? then went back and defeated Mega Satan too to get both unlocks. I expect the rest of his unlocks will be a bit harder going cause I must have blown all my luck on this run. And getting to Boss Rush will probably be a nightmare with him, too.
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Nov 22, 2015 14:04
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I'm interested: how do you folks approach the daily challenges? The way I see it you have to choose between overall score or speed. The thing is, I've had some success with speed, whereas trying to rack up points seems like a complete crapshoot. I've had runs where I get great items from the get go and barely have to pick up anything, I explore just about everything and do the boss rush, hush, the whole shebang. In the end my rank is barely in the top 500, and sometimes it's ludicrously low. But just the other day I had a really succesful run where I found a bunch of damage ups and The Mind so I could always beeline to the bossroom and that got me the 39th position with time. It's probably no surprise I prefer the speed approach, but what about the rest of you?
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Nov 22, 2015 14:07
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Daily today has a chaos card in the hush shop.
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Nov 22, 2015 14:13
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Baron posted:What is the easiest way, using Cheat Engine or whatever, to get all of The Lost's unlocks? I finally realized I will never dedicate enough time to get them legitimately, but i want the rewards! Make yourself invincible is the obvious one
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Nov 22, 2015 14:50
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Wugga posted:I'm interested: how do you folks approach the daily challenges? The way I see it you have to choose between overall score or speed. I like to take my time and explore as much as possible in the daily. If I get to the Boss Rush, I always do it. In the one today, doing the Boss Rush gave me the Relic, which gave me enough health to actually win me the run. Having the best DPS I think I've ever had in Isaac helped me wreck Mega Satan, but I would never have got through the Womb without the Relic. If I get a good time rank, then that's a good bonus, but I don't rush. One of my successful runs took over 73 minutes, and I still somehow got the 90th best time. biscuits and crazy fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 14:50
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Is anyone else having weird issues with Eve? I've donated enough to the Greed machine to unlock the Razor Blade as a starting item for her, but it doesn't appear when I play as her. I've previously beaten Satan as her to unlock it in the first place and I have the appropriate mark on her post-it. Also, reducing your max red health to 1 no longer seems to trigger Whore of Babylon for Eve, only taking damage down to 1 seems to do it.
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Nov 22, 2015 14:51
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Zark the Damned posted:Also, reducing your max red health to 1 no longer seems to trigger Whore of Babylon for Eve, only taking damage down to 1 seems to do it. Whore now only activates, for everyone, if you meet the requirements for it activating after taking damage. Yes this is really really stupid. [edit] Knowing Nicalis they probably had it checking the condition every single game tick or something MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 14:53
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Whore now only activates, for everyone, if you meet the requirements for it activating after taking damage. Which means that, eg, it does nothing on the Lost ever. Guess I'm never playing Eve again.
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Nov 22, 2015 14:55
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Whore now only activates, for everyone, if you meet the requirements for it activating after taking damage. Which means that, eg, it does nothing on the Lost ever. I'm pretty sure, like 99% sure, I just had Whore of Babylon with the Lost and it was on all the time e2: nope, Eve definitely gets and keeps Whore between rooms after a devil deal to go to 1 heart container. Panic over, nothing has changed? Edmund Honda fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 15:03
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Wugga posted:I'm interested: how do you folks approach the daily challenges? The way I see it you have to choose between overall score or speed. I usually take my time on the daily runs and explore everything. Not even necessarily due to the score, but simply because a lot of runs seem to be tailor-made for showcasing interesting item synergies, so just rushing through everything seems like a waste. Today's daily was Ludovicho + Brimstone, for instance.
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Nov 22, 2015 15:17
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Edmund Honda posted:I'm pretty sure, like 99% sure, I just had Whore of Babylon with the Lost and it was on all the time I'm playing with Eve right now. I had 3 heart containers, with 1 red heart. Whore of Babylon was activated. I took 2 devil deals to go down to 0 hearts. Whore of Babylon deactivated and only reactivated when I took damage. Which, by the way, was from going into the Curse room while I had Holy Mantle active. Which obviously shouldn't happen either.
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Nov 22, 2015 15:18
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You're correct about the Lost, I misremembered
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Nov 22, 2015 15:43
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Is it just really bad luck on my part, or do Curse rooms have a much lower chance of having items in them now? I can count on my fingers the number of times I've gotten some since afterbirth and I check pretty frequently. Edit: Just noticed that the Ball and Chain no longer has a speed down attached to it. Pretty nice. Anchors fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 15:50
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Anchors posted:Is it just really bad luck on my part, or do Curse rooms have a much lower chance of having items in them now? I can count on my fingers the number of times I've gotten some since afterbirth and I check pretty frequently. No, you're right. They added more rooms they have nothing or red chests or runes or something.
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Nov 22, 2015 15:55
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I am so tired of bombing secret rooms and just getting poop or 3 cents. I barely want to even try getting into them anymore.
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Nov 22, 2015 17:05
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Red Mundus posted:I am so tired of bombing secret rooms and just getting poop or 3 cents. I barely want to even try getting into them anymore. Or a button that spawns monsters.
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Nov 22, 2015 17:13
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Red Mundus posted:I am so tired of bombing secret rooms and just getting poop or 3 cents. I barely want to even try getting into them anymore. The normal secrets seem just fine for me. I find plenty of good stuff in there to make it worth it. Super secret, not so much sadly. I keep getting the flooded caves one with nothing but a + of retractable spikes with a black poop in the center.
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Nov 22, 2015 17:56
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Samuel Clemens posted:I usually take my time on the daily runs and explore everything. Not even necessarily due to the score, but simply because a lot of runs seem to be tailor-made for showcasing interesting item synergies, so just rushing through everything seems like a waste. Today's daily was Ludovicho + Brimstone, for instance. Huh, I didn't find Brimstone. I ended up with 8 Inch Nails + Continuum, along with a host of other damage and tears up items. Still a very easy win though.
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Nov 22, 2015 17:57
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Spelling Mitsake posted:Or a button that spawns monsters. The Chest secret room with two buttons: One spawns 4 duke of flies and the other spawns 3 duke of flies.
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Nov 22, 2015 18:28
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Spergminer posted:The Chest secret room with two buttons: One spawns 4 duke of flies and the other spawns 3 duke of flies. That's better than the one that spawns 3 super envy
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Nov 22, 2015 18:35
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Alkydere posted:The normal secrets seem just fine for me. I find plenty of good stuff in there to make it worth it. Super secret is a lot better now in my opinion with that rune room in the rotation. I like secret rooms better now than I did in regular isaac when they were kind of boring and always money but I wish you' get items just a little bit more often now.
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Nov 22, 2015 18:47
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After sinking 40+ coins into the slot machine and getting nothing except 2 pennies which i promply gambled away, too, i took a look at how the gently caress this thing even works or rather, why it doesn't. Turns out that if you roll a reward on the slots and you are on Hard Mode, there's a 50% chance your reward doesn't pay out. That explains so much. Ed really doesn't like gambling, i guess
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Nov 22, 2015 18:48
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Spergminer posted:The Chest secret room with two buttons: One spawns 4 duke of flies and the other spawns 3 duke of flies. Got this once in a tight room 
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Nov 22, 2015 18:49
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I'm playing with Eve right now. That sounds more like a glitch there. I checked for myself with Missing HUD 2 (That thing is great), and Whore of Babylon did not get nerfed. The text seems to pop up at weirder times now, but it works just fine on anyone with no red hearts.
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Nov 22, 2015 18:51
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I'm looking at the challenges I have left to do and most of them just unlock stuff I don't want anyway. I was wondering how the game chooses which consumables to spawn. Does the rng decide to spawn a rune, and then which rune, or does the rng just pick from the entire pool of consumables all at once? I ask this because I'm wondering if unlocking bad runes decreases my odds of getting the good runes or not. Edit: obviously unlocking bad runes always nerfs the rune secret rooms and the rune bag either way. LibbyM fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Nov 22, 2015 |
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Nov 22, 2015 19:24
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Dr. Fetus posted:That sounds more like a glitch there. I checked for myself with Missing HUD 2 (That thing is great), and Whore of Babylon did not get nerfed. The text seems to pop up at weirder times now, but it works just fine on anyone with no red hearts. It works with eve too, it's always on when you have 1 red heart or less, don't actually need to take damage for it to activate. The only exception is the 1st room on a level, for some reason you have to go to a different room first for it to trigger. This applies to greed mode so just go to one of the item rooms first and it should be fine.
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