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Raskolnikov38 posted:I thought Russia declared this to be a mulligan by claiming ISIS shot it down? There was a Russian helicopter shot down by rebels, that might be what you're thinking of.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Maybe Joementum isn't Dave Weigel, but is in fact a liquor marketing operative.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I thought Russia declared this to be a mulligan by claiming ISIS shot it down? Russia said that Turkish rebels shot it down, presumably in hopes of avoiding an international incident. Turkey went ahead and claimed responsibility anyways. One thing Turkish rebels did do is kill one of the ejected pilots.
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Fried Chicken posted:NAACP alleges cops 'behind' last night's shooting in Minnesota, says they have video of undercover cops leaving scene Isn't the head of the police union in a(n alleged) white supremacist motorcycle club, or was that another city? Luigi Thirty posted:The thing that's really hard to prove so they charge police with it as a token because they always get off? The dashcam video is apparently pretty horrific. Like, the family was given a 5m settlement without actually suing first and there were 18 prior complaints about this officer. Also, after the shooting several police went to the Burger King and deleted over an hour of security camera footage from before/during/after the incident (and Burger King corporate has made this claim). It'd be really nice if cops could actually get charged with obstruction of justice but the shooter's being charged so I'm not going to hold out hope for several more miracles. We desperately need a department in the DoJ that does nothing but handle police investigations. Local prosecutors and most independent review boards are in bed with the PDs to a huge degree. Feds, at the very least, have less chance to give a gently caress about local buddy-buddy bullshit and would be more likely to nail cops to the wall when they break the law.
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AlternateNu posted:Apparently they're charging the cop in Chicago who shot McDonald with first degree murder. (Phone posting, so no link.) It's almost like it's illegal to be a cop these days.
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computer parts posted:There was a Russian helicopter shot down by rebels, that might be what you're thinking of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IschF-ihjS0 (Link is probably  just because it's a TOW shot from the Syrian Civil War)But yeah, that was different from the plane that Turkey shot down. As this poster put it: Anosmoman posted:Turkey shot down the plane. Turkmen militias in Syria killed the pilots and TOWed a damaged helicopter on the ground. fade5 fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Teddybear posted:In many states-- not all, I think, but many-- a charge of first-degree murder also includes inherent in it the lower charges. It may not necessarily include manslaughter, and I don't know how Illinois law works. I think the situation is that nobody involved in the trial is required to invoke the lesser offenses, but the prosecution, defense, or judge can instruct the jury about it. I guess if if the prosecutor really was trying to tank the case and the judge was sympathetic, they could conspire to get the cop off.
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Mitt Romney posted:Didn't stormfront or one of those other similar sites state that Reddit.com was a prime recruiting ground due to its demographics containing mostly young white angry males?
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JT Jag posted:Stormfront and Freep are the past of internet conservatism, a type of internet conservatism is easily identifiable as what it is and cannot be confused for anything else I went to Reddit for the porn Stayed for the porn
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Squalid posted:I feel like almost all communities have a strong homogenizing effect, maybe people just get tired of disagreeing with one another Reddit's voting system wildly encourages the homogenization of (apparent) public opinion towards either one extreme or the other and is easily gamed by having a small group of people coordinate on voting. Luckily, its population of people who comment on /r/news with racist garbage is in the minority of people who comment at all, which is an even smaller portion of the site's traffic. Reddit could be a serious propaganda machine if the admins weren't concerned with containing that poo poo, but they are. So there's not much to worry about.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Isn't the head of the police union in a(n alleged) white supremacist motorcycle club, or was that another city? Yeah that's Minneapolis.
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Nov 25, 2015 01:07
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So is Obamacare about to collapse or something? Seems like the republicans I know are excited about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3-XIGJZMEI If thats really the minneapolis protestors they are retarded for chasing the dudes down after assaulting them.
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Pillowpants posted:So is Obamacare about to collapse or something? Seems like the republicans I know are excited about it. It's superbly hosed, but it's getting better. Firms that are pulling out, such as ... HealthNet/United Health, are doing so not because of structural problems with ACA, but because they've been piss poor at marketing and adapting to the new regime. But what do I know, I'm a Punjabi woman who speaks no english with three different health plans all of which send me overdue notices every month despite being paid in full. Thanks ACA! And that's when I'm not being silently unenrolled from my plan because I failed to file an affidavit about my income. The system is really really really hosed, but it is slowly getting better.' I just entertained some inlaws from PA, and the physician husband was gleefully noting the withdrawal of health networks from ACA... but knowing how shittily they got their act together, it comes as no surprise, and really has to do more with the bloat and managerial incompetence in an overfattened economic sector than the ACA. These people have had it good for so long marching in lock-step mediocrity that their management can't handle the change. Or doesn't want to. Or they realize if ACA works, it necessarily means the consolidation of a lot of insurers, and their redundancy. Martin Random fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Pillowpants posted:So is Obamacare about to collapse or something? Seems like the republicans I know are excited about it. Is this about the possibility of the UnitedHealth pull out? Because the exchanges can survive without that insurer on board. The Republicans are always excited about Obamacare, since it's always on the VERGE OF COLLAPSE 
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http://livestream.com/unicornriot/events/4512162/videos/105423281 Okay there is the link to the original posting. It is somewhat hilariously titled "witness testimony #1". I am sure those current/future defendants' (the 4chan idiots) attorneys are going to be praising jesus.
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Torpor posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3-XIGJZMEI And yet, activists are angry that the police being protested didn't charge head-first into that situation. What would have happened if police dispersed a crowd which wss assaulting civilians who were potentially journalists? Crowd woulda rioted, is what I think. Crowd didn't want dialogue; crowd wanted an outlet for their anger, no matter who the target would be.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Is this about the possibility of the UnitedHealth pull out? Because the exchanges can survive without that insurer on board. UnitedHealth has threatened to pull out of CA for each of the last 3 years. I suspect it has something to do with negotiating rates. UnitedHealth already puts most of its focus on corporate policies in most states. If they do actually pull out it would result in less competition and higher prices, but not enough to matter that much.
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My Imaginary GF posted:And yet, activists are angry that the police being protested didn't charge head-first into that situation. That may just hand the white supremacists a get out of jail free card; it would also explain the "you asked for it" comment. Not that a cop saying "you asked for it" in that situation was professional or anything, but "rushing" and punching repeatedly some guys doing nothing but standing there video taping and then chasing them down is a good way to get shot.
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Furthermore, why is the President in France, rather than coming back home to lead and ensure nonviolence?
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Mitt Romney posted:UnitedHealth has threatened to pull out of CA for each of the last 3 years. I suspect it has something to do with negotiating rates. UnitedHealth is also literal poop from a butt so I say good riddance to them. They're the worst of the worst when it comes to insurer business practices.
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Torpor posted:That may just hand the white supremacists a get out of jail free card; it would also explain the "you asked for it" comment. Not that a cop saying "you asked for it" in that situation was professional or anything, but "rushing" and punching repeatedly some guys doing nothing but standing there video taping and then chasing them down is a good way to get shot. In Minnesota you can't pick a fight and then shoot the person you picked a fight with. Duty to retreat and all. Much less fire wildly at a group of people.
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Silver Nitrate posted:In Minnesota you can't pick a fight and then shoot the person you picked a fight with. Duty to retreat and all. Sounds like they did retreat, were being pummeled on, and ended up cornered in an alleyway. What more could those three individuals have done? Also thank you to the posters earlier who recommended some places to eat in Duluth. I may give a tripreport to chatthread this month on how it goes.
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(Partial Crosspost.) So there's been discussion about Donald Trump's ground game (or lack thereof). Wonder no longer: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-donald-trumps-ground-game-looks-in-early-states-2015-11-23 quote:His organization in states early on the GOP primary calendar, at least, suggest he’s building the infrastructure that could help him win the nod, analysts say. Good luck. 
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My Imaginary GF posted:Sounds like they did retreat, were being pummeled on, and ended up cornered in an alleyway. What more could those three individuals have done? They were not cornered in an alley. It happened on a residential street. O.o
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When you're sitting down for Thanksgiving dinner this week and that one unbearable relative starts talking, just remember: it could be worse. It could be so much worse.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/laquan-mcdonald-video_5654e329e4b079b281897fc2 Hey Chicago goons may wanna stay inside tonight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2N6_jLAgA In the video, McDonald is carrying with a small knife and walking away from officers, Alvarez said. Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke opens fire as he stands about 10 feet away, and keeps shooting for roughly 13 to 15 seconds even after the teen falls to the ground. Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Epic High Five posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/laquan-mcdonald-video_5654e329e4b079b281897fc2
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Silver Nitrate posted:They were not cornered in an alley. It happened on a residential street. O.o They didn't 'pick a fight' they were standing in a public area using a camera when people literally said they "rushed at them" and started punching them and then chased them. Taking a case like that in front of a jury is substantially easier than "white supremacists start shooting at crowd of civil rights protestors"
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Epic High Five posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/laquan-mcdonald-video_5654e329e4b079b281897fc2 Welp, I'm literally sitting in the airport, about to fly to Chicago
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Epic High Five posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/laquan-mcdonald-video_5654e329e4b079b281897fc2 has anything started yet? i assume people are (rightfully) pissed.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:has anything started yet? i assume people are (rightfully) pissed. I haven't heard of anything and it sounds like CPD has plans in place to diffuse riots etc Just a blanket sort of statement because holy poo poo
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Epic High Five posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/laquan-mcdonald-video_5654e329e4b079b281897fc2 It still blows my goddamn mind that the police went and deleted Burger King's footage of the murder but not their own.  This video's existence is pretty much the only thing that gives a good chance at the cop being sent to prison.
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Perhaps the CPD has an effective accountability system for accessing patrolcam footage. (I'm assuming thats what took the footage. I don't want to watch that poo poo.) That is to say, it would be hard to delete without getting your name in there as the deleter.
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Support are troops! America for America! *assaults woman* Story about a refugee rally in Boise and the 3%er counter protest. 3%ers are a group who let homeless vets crash on their couch in exchange for an excuse to hate everyone who isn't white. Islam is the Lite Rock FM fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:It still blows my goddamn mind that the police went and deleted Burger King's footage of the murder but not their own. Odds are they either didn't think about it in the heat of the moment, or they can't access it as easily or undocumentedly as they could the BK footage. Plus it's their property to begin with so they likely figured they could just sit on it (which almost worked)
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DemeaninDemon posted:Support are troops! America for America! *assaults woman* Broken link
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Combed Thunderclap posted:In the series, the stars are actually swastikas, so this is clearly the (relatively) "non-offensive" alternative. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I always liked the early ones where Joel was in the theater alone.
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JT Jag posted:Oooooh boy. Happy black Friday. fade5 posted:(Partial Crosspost.) So there's been discussion about Donald Trump's ground game (or lack thereof). Wonder no longer: For context: 12 field staff is about what you'd have for a well-funded Congressional district. Position matters; are these 12 statewide coordinators, or 12 iowa-orientated coordinators? What is their past record? How many volunteers and local connections do they bring with them? Can they work well with finance side? All important campaign infrastructure questions.
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Evil Fluffy posted:It still blows my goddamn mind that the police went and deleted Burger King's footage of the murder but not their own. This doesn't surprise me in the least, the real question is, if this guy gets nailed for 1st degree (which if you can't stomach watching the video, it's BLATANT) could the
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