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ComradeCosmobot posted:Both groups have had organizations loudly threatening to stay home if Hillary can't actually put some actions behind her words on immigration and BLM. No one has said anything remotely similar about Trump. Then let them. I'm sure things would be better for them under a fascist president running on racism.
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McDowell posted:I'm sure a concealed carry would have done wonders if the reports of body armor prove correct. According to my cousin's husband (who owns a gun store and is an ER doctor), this is why they train you to shoot targets in the head because of some story of a shooter who was shot in the chest but was wearing body armor so he was able to kill more people.
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When it is actually the time to vote, maybe there will be bigger events that let the voters' minds off this current act of terrorism!
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Even ignoring Fox News's obvious outlier, even PPP could only muster a Clinton +1. General election polls this far out are not accurate and should be disregarded.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Hillary can't take any criticism whatsoever and will shrivel up next to the man who fires his mouth like an automatic weapon. I could see Hillary attempting to play the sexism card against Trump in a debate and having it go as well as when she tried to play the 9/11 card.
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fknlo posted:Then let them. I'm sure things would be better for them under a fascist president running on racism. Uhhhh......
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Lemming posted:Romney was ahead of Obama at certain points 1 year out then lost by almost 4%. Which is why I gave Trump 47% to start with. I think it would be difficult to do worse than Romney, given the relatively unfavorable atmosphere for Obama.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:According to my cousin's husband (who owns a gun store and is an ER doctor), this is why they train you to shoot targets in the head because of some story of a shooter who was shot in the chest but was wearing body armor so he was able to kill more people. Yes, aim for the smaller target that's harder to hit. That will always work well.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Its my understanding that gerrymandering and voter suppression mostly affects local and congressional elections and not presidential ones. 2016 is going to be unique, because a war atmosphere with BLM & Immigration activism in full swing is going to make some new history, because 2004 was loving awful if you at all even considered being critical of the OUR BLESSED LAND.
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toanoradian posted:When it is actually the time to vote, maybe there will be bigger events that let the voters' minds off this current act of terrorism! Yes! Possibly an economic crisis! After all, most votes are determined by the state of the economy within the final few months of the election cycle. So you better hope that we don't hit a speed bump next year!
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Which is why I gave Trump 47% to start with. I think it would be difficult to do worse than Romney, given the relatively unfavorable atmosphere for Obama. The other thing that posters seem to forget is that Trump is running against Obama, while Hillary is running as Obama redux.
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fknlo posted:Then let them. I'm sure things would be better for them under a fascist president running on racism. Refusing to support Hilary for not outright supporting them knowing full well that it would lead to Trump outright making GBS threads down their necks seems really short sighted...
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So what's the best expat country? Does that even matter since the USA will become UST? Will there be much irony as other nations block US refugees?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Refusing to support Hilary for not outright supporting them knowing full well that it would lead to Trump outright making GBS threads down their necks seems really short sighted... welcome to single issue voters
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PhazonLink posted:So what's the best expat country? Does that even matter since the USA will become UST? Will there be much irony as other nations block US refugees? The UK is going to get terrorist attack'd in the next few months, so avoid that place. Mexico has a pretty big ex-pat community, just stay in the enclave.
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Lemming posted:Romney was ahead of Obama at certain points 1 year out then lost by almost 4%. Also: National polls are poo poo.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Refusing to support Hilary for not outright supporting them knowing full well that it would lead to Trump outright making GBS threads down their necks seems really short sighted... But she didn't pander to us enough!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Refusing to support Hilary for not outright supporting them knowing full well that it would lead to Trump outright making GBS threads down their necks seems really short sighted... Since when have liberals ever been known for sticking together despite minor ideological differences?
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Which is why I gave Trump 47% to start with. I think it would be difficult to do worse than Romney, given the relatively unfavorable atmosphere for Obama. Yeah, all kinds of poo poo could happen. The Democrats have a built in advantage, but one little thing could flip that 2-3% that makes the difference in the election. Anyone that feels comfortable that the Democrats are a shoe-in for the Presidency are forgetting how awesome of a candidate Obama was.
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I'm glad all the talk of minorities being a near lock for the dem candidate means people will easily blame them for the loss if it occurs
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Lessail posted:I'm glad all the talk of minorities being a near lock for the dem candidate means people will easily blame them for the loss Didn't happen in 2000, did it?
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If Trump becomes the nominee, the press pointing out he does and says crazy poo poo and is pushing for fascism basically stops. Right now they can do it because, as it is the primary, other parts of the right wing media and other right wing personalities are doing it. This means that they can call him out without appearing biased (since the conservative outlets are taking the mush mouthed criticism role) and frame their reporting as repeating what others on the right are saying (just as how they couldn't talk about the nonsense of the Benghazi panel until McCarthy said it, despite it being obvious). When Trump becomes the nominee, the right will fall in line or stop speaking out against him, and that cover will drop. The press will become the lapdogs we've seen aiding and abetting malfeasance for decades. Get hyped
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Which is why I gave Trump 47% to start with. I think it would be difficult to do worse than Romney, given the relatively unfavorable atmosphere for Obama. I think Trump would turn off more Republicans with his garbage than Romney did with his milquetoastness.
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Fried Chicken posted:If Trump becomes the nominee, the press pointing out he does and says crazy poo poo and is pushing for fascism basically stops. Right now they can do it because, as it is the primary, other parts of the right wing media and other right wing personalities are doing it. This means that they can call him out without appearing biased (since the conservative outlets are taking the mush mouthed criticism role) and frame their reporting as repeating what others on the right are saying (just as how they couldn't talk about the nonsense of the Benghazi panel until McCarthy said it, despite it being obvious). When Trump becomes the nominee, the right will fall in line or stop speaking out against him, and that cover will drop. The press will become the lapdogs we've seen aiding and abetting malfeasance for decades. Horse race! Horse race! Horse race!
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Am I the only calm fucker left here tonight?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Didn't happen in 2000, did it? Well Nader provided an obvious scapegoat.
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PhazonLink posted:So what's the best expat country? Does that even matter since the USA will become UST? Will there be much irony as other nations block US refugees? Iceland looks nice
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Lemming posted:I think Trump would turn off more Republicans with his garbage than Romney did with his milquetoastness. You think wrong.
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Grouchio posted:Am I the only calm fucker left here tonight? Get your arzy on! 
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Lemming posted:I think Trump would turn off more Republicans with his garbage than Romney did with his milquetoastness. This strikes me as harder to do than you would think if an "inaccurate" poll from a year out can get him 43% (i.e. ~90% of Romney's vote total)
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Black Baby Goku posted:You think wrong. I actually know a couple of pretty big shithead conservatives who don't like Trump because they think he's trying to throw the election to the Democrats.
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It's probably correct since the AP reported it, but I'm gonna lol so hard if the sheriff says that name is bullshit at their press conference coming up.
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Fried Chicken posted:Iceland looks nice Hope you don't enjoy eating fresh produce.
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Maybe if the arzy-ing started 340 days before the election, people will calm down and not panic on November 7, 2016.
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fknlo posted:I actually know a couple of pretty big shithead conservatives who don't like Trump because they think he's trying to throw the election to the Democrats. If he is the only choice they have, they will vote for him
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Joementum posted:Hope you don't enjoy eating fresh produce. The Hákarl is fresh though!
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Black Baby Goku posted:If he is the only choice they have, they will vote for him Exactly. Never underestimate the sheer hatred Republicans have for Hillary. And it's not like old conservatives will just stay home because Trump is bad. They have a duty to vote, and if Trump is their only choice, well...
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ComradeCosmobot posted:This strikes me as harder to do than you would think if an "inaccurate" poll from a year out can get him 43% (i.e. ~90% of Romney's vote total) 10% less than someone who lost in what is widely considered to be pretty much a landslide is not really a strong argument in Trump's favor.
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Grouchio posted:Am I the only calm fucker left here tonight? Nah, I'm thoroughly desensitized to violence and accept the void we are all heading into.
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If "not pandering enough" to minorities will cost Hillary the election, then she should pander to them in order to win.
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