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BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

TheDisreputableDog posted:

Lol how insecure are your political positions that no one can critique them without reaching for the big shiny RACISM button.

:ironicat: Try again.

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TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
Five minutes into a shooting near a planned parenthood - "The GOP should be ashamed for their enabling rhetoric!"

Two days after a mass shooting, growing pile of connections to ISIS - "IT COULD BE ANYTHING RACISTS!!!"

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

TheDisreputableDog posted:

Five minutes into a shooting near a planned parenthood - "The GOP should be ashamed for their enabling rhetoric!"

Two days after a mass shooting, growing pile of connections to ISIS - "IT COULD BE ANYTHING RACISTS!!!"

Fortunately ISIS isn't a major US political party

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



TheDisreputableDog posted:

Five minutes into a shooting near a planned parenthood - "The GOP should be ashamed for their enabling rhetoric!"

Two days after a mass shooting, growing pile of connections to ISIS - "IT COULD BE ANYTHING RACISTS!!!"

growing pile of connections = Facebook Likes. Good to know.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

TheDisreputableDog posted:

Five minutes into a shooting near a planned parenthood - "The GOP should be ashamed for their enabling rhetoric!"

Two days after a mass shooting, growing pile of connections to ISIS - "IT COULD BE ANYTHING RACISTS!!!"

I think the difference might be that the PP shooter told police "no more baby parts" when he was arrested, but the story about his wife pledging loyalty to ISIS took two days to uncover.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Hulk Krogan posted:

growing pile of connections = Facebook Likes. Good to know.

People are having antiterror police show up at their houses in the UK for less.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

TheDisreputableDog posted:

"Sure, they deleted all their email accounts the day before the attack, wiped and smashed their hard drives, but maybe he just snapped at the party. It's still too soon to really say either way. We just don't have any solid clues yet."

I'm refuting the assertion that this was an attack directed by ISIS

quote:

While the attack may have been inspired by Islamic State, there is no evidence that it was directed by the militant group, U.S. government sources said. Islamic State, which has taken control of large parts of Syria and Iraq, took claim for the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris in which gunmen and suicide bombers killed 130.

CNN reported on Friday that one U.S. official said Malik had made the pledge to al-Baghdadi in a posting on Facebook on Wednesday, the day of the attack, under an account that used a different name.

There's no evidence ISIS had a direct role in this. The only evidence so far linking this guy to anything resembling ISIS is an official claiming that he made a pledge to ISIS on Facebook using a pseudonym.

Also that this is one of the stupidest terrorist targets ever.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

TheDisreputableDog posted:

Five minutes into a shooting near a planned parenthood - "The GOP should be ashamed for their enabling rhetoric!"

Two days after a mass shooting, growing pile of connections to ISIS - "IT COULD BE ANYTHING RACISTS!!!"

The right loves to point this out but rather than suggest restraint in all cases they do the exact same loving thing they're criticizing just the other way around. If you want to point out hypocrisy in others you have to not be guilty of the exact same thing yourself.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Hulk Krogan posted:

growing pile of connections = Facebook Likes. Good to know.

Don't forget that declaring allegiance to ISIS under an alternate facebook account and then deleting it makes killing coworkers terrorism.

I'm not saying it for sure wasn't terrorism, I don't think there's enough info that has been released to come to that conclusion. If they had done anything else besides kill his coworkers I might be saying something different. But they didn't. We don't know if they had other plans to make this something other than a workplace shooting.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
We can't rush to judgment here. We can't possibly know the motives of the shooter.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

FCKGW posted:

There's no evidence ISIS had a direct role in this. The only evidence so far linking this guy to anything resembling ISIS is an official claiming that he made a pledge to ISIS on Facebook using a pseudonym.

Also that this is one of the stupidest terrorist targets ever.

you're skipping over his status as a mussulman, which demonstrates a clear and indisputable link to a toxic terrorist ideology

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Tis the season of miracles.

Congress passes $305 billion infrastructure bill partly funded by taking money away from big banks

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Congress-Approves-Bill-Nations-Infrastructure-360545871.html

Wonder what made this happen?

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Hulk Krogan posted:

growing pile of connections = Facebook Likes. Good to know.

My cousin recently liked a posting from her local right wing KKK militia chapter because it sounded nice

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.

Gravel Gravy posted:

My cousin recently liked a posting from her local right wing KKK militia chapter because it sounded nice

If you see something, say something.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

theblackw0lf posted:

Wonder what made this happen?

Speaker Paul Ryan

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Lyapunov Unstable posted:

also on this note, am I wrong in understanding this decision as possibly creating a permanent Republican majority and it's bizarre that nobody is talking about it

OTOH, it might go the other way and say that the metric is population, not just voters, instead of just holding prior precedent.

Gotta grab what optimism you can I guess.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Her declaration of loyalty to ISIS was a Facebook image that said "Like if u believe in Jesus, Share if u accept him in ur hart, if you are loyal to ISIS keep scrollin"

And she kept scrolling

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

FCKGW posted:

Also that this is one of the stupidest terrorist targets ever.

A soft target government organization outside a major urban area?

In terms of creating terror, I can think of more boneheaded targets (like an army recruitment center)

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Gravel Gravy posted:

My cousin recently liked a posting from her local right wing KKK militia chapter because it sounded nice

You're cousin might be a KKK member then. Who the hell likes a KKK page?

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I'd definitely buy the theory that he was planning something big and snapped at the party so decided to go for it there instead.

Shooting up a holiday Christmas party of your coworkers in one of the poorest and depressed counties of California makes no sense. Downtown LA is literally a 45 minute straight shot down the freeway. If you wanted to do some real terrorism you go shoot up LA Live or The Grove or any mall during Black Friday. There's even a major airport 20 minutes from where this took place.

My opinion is that something was being planned but that this attack was not what they were planning for.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

TheDisreputableDog posted:

A soft target government organization outside a major urban area?


That he happened to work at for 5 years. Guess he was just a sleeper agent sent to strike at the heart of the San Bernardino County Health Department that ISIS has been so desperate to attack.

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

greatn posted:

Her declaration of loyalty to ISIS was a Facebook image that said "Like if u believe in Jesus, Share if u accept him in ur hart, if you are loyal to ISIS keep scrollin"

And she kept scrolling

She liked a picture of the Prophet that was blingeed with sparkles and Kanye shades

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

MSNBC just broadcast the shooter's mother's SSN and drivers license number on live TV.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

theblackw0lf posted:

Tis the season of miracles.

Congress passes $305 billion infrastructure bill partly funded by taking money away from big banks

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Congress-Approves-Bill-Nations-Infrastructure-360545871.html

Wonder what made this happen?

quote:

The airline and cruise ship industries complained that their passengers are also being asked to pay for improvements unrelated to their travel.

I have to drive to the loving airport before I can get on the loving plane you stupid mother fuckers.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

TheDisreputableDog posted:

She liked a picture of the Prophet that was blingeed with sparkles and Kanye shades

Deffo a radical fundamentalist.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

TheDisreputableDog posted:

In terms of creating terror, I can think of more boneheaded targets (like an army recruitment center)

Or a planned parenthood, or an elementary school.

All mass shootings are terrorism.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

TheDisreputableDog posted:

A soft target government organization outside a major urban area?

In terms of creating terror, I can think of more boneheaded targets (like an army recruitment center)

A "soft target" is like the loving mall during Thanksgiving shopping. Something to inspire fear and tank consumer spending and hopefully the economy.

A medical center in a business park and targeting exclusively people you know and your coworkers? Talk about loving up your terrorist messaging.

Like seriously, I live in this area and you have Loma Linda Medical Center (a much more famous hospital), UC Riverside or San Manual Indian Casino all within a 5 minute drive that would make a much better "soft target" than this dump.

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Dec 4, 2015

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

fknlo posted:

That he happened to work at for 5 years. Guess he was just a sleeper agent sent to strike at the heart of the San Bernardino County Health Department that ISIS has been so desperate to attack.

Maybe their LoL team lost their silver promo matches the day before, so he trashed his hard drive and shot up his ADC and jungle the next day.

We just don't know yet.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Luigi Thirty posted:

MSNBC just broadcast the shooter's mother's SSN and drivers license number on live TV.

As well as family photos, bank statements, etc. Whoever let them in just seriously hosed up.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

TheDisreputableDog posted:

We just don't know yet.

Exactly.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

FCKGW posted:

I'd definitely buy the theory that he was planning something big and snapped at the party so decided to go for it there instead.

Shooting up a holiday Christmas party of your coworkers in one of the poorest and depressed counties of California makes no sense. Downtown LA is literally a 45 minute straight shot down the freeway. If you wanted to do some real terrorism you go shoot up LA Live or The Grove or any mall during Black Friday. There's even a major airport 20 minutes from where this took place.

My opinion is that something was being planned but that this attack was not what they were planning for.



This is my opinion of how it's going to play out as well.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

theblackw0lf posted:

Tis the season of miracles.

Congress passes $305 billion infrastructure bill partly funded by taking money away from big banks

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Congress-Approves-Bill-Nations-Infrastructure-360545871.html

Wonder what made this happen?

quote:

But safety advocates won inclusion of a long-sought provision requiring rental car agencies to repair recalled cars and trucks before renting them.

Well, I'm glad that's a thing now.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
So the landlord of that apartment complex is hosed in about a million legal ways right now, as is MSNBC, and whoever at MSNBC allowed this is going to get mega-fired, right?

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

theblackw0lf posted:

Tis the season of miracles.

Congress passes $305 billion infrastructure bill partly funded by taking money away from big banks

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Congress-Approves-Bill-Nations-Infrastructure-360545871.html

Wonder what made this happen?

I almost can't believe this.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

TheDisreputableDog posted:


We just don't know yet.

Correct. Or has no other workplace shooter planned out their attack before? Were they all just spur of the moment murder sprees?


FCKGW posted:

I'd definitely buy the theory that he was planning something big and snapped at the party so decided to go for it there instead.

Shooting up a holiday Christmas party of your coworkers in one of the poorest and depressed counties of California makes no sense. Downtown LA is literally a 45 minute straight shot down the freeway. If you wanted to do some real terrorism you go shoot up LA Live or The Grove or any mall during Black Friday. There's even a major airport 20 minutes from where this took place.

My opinion is that something was being planned but that this attack was not what they were planning for.

This seems like the most logical thing I can think of right now, but nothing about this follows any kind of logic, so...

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
I mean, the shooter has to be just crazy to do something like this. Let's consider mental health in America.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Monkey Fracas posted:

I almost can't believe this.

Don't worry, the big banks are still getting a free 6% from the fed, it just isn't as much money as they wanted.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Trabisnikof posted:

Don't worry, the big banks are still getting a free 6% from the fed, it just isn't as much money as they wanted.

Brace for the tantrums from old men in suits.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Sorry cat and dog lovers, the bison is now the national mammal of the US.

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Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Joementum posted:

As well as family photos, bank statements, etc. Whoever let them in just seriously hosed up.

Originally the landlord did supposedly, despite the FBI saying no, you can't do that. Now the landlord said he didn't let them in, they just barged in. Someone was seen literally pulling the door open with a crowbar.

CNN's reporters are furious. Fox News reporters are inside digging through everything now.

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