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Trump might be right on Germany. They banned all Atoms power plants because THEY CAN BLOW UP LIKE NUKES OMGOMGOMG* so Germany then replaced that with solar** * hahahahahahahah **hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaha *burns more hydrocarbon locally or gets the power from other countries that burn hydrocarbons* Also I just learned last night from The Daily Show that Trump wants to gently caress his stepdaughter. Wtf.
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fishmech posted:It would most significantly diminish voting power in rural areas that have population jumped up by having prisons though. Having 40,000 people locked up in your county's borders can and does lead to districts being drawable with far more rural voters, on the strength of having locked up a bunch of people who can't vote. If only some Compromise could be reached.
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PhazonLink posted:Trump might be right on Germany. They banned all Atoms power plants because THEY CAN BLOW UP LIKE NUKES OMGOMGOMG* so Germany then replaced that with solar** The real funny part is that France is mostly nuclear and exports a decent amount of energy to Germany. Also several of its nuclear plants are on the French-German border.
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Joementum posted:Lucas Baiano, the Michael Bay of political ads, who begged the Clinton campaign to hire him in 2008, out with a new attack ad on Hillary for America Rising PAC. Runs too long and shows W as an example of 'leadership'. A Bad Ad.
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Martin Shkreli is truly dedicated to being human garbage.
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poo poo head young republicans love listening to 90's era gangsta rap because they think it's an ironic juxtaposition as well as a cultural signifier of coolness to their peers.
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Muscle Tracer posted:For instance, until you understand all the ins and outs of burglary or drug distribution, preferably from real-world job experience, it would be wrong to condemn burglars and drug distributors' actions. and now we're back to 
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zoux posted:poo poo head young republicans love listening to 90's era gangsta rap because they think it's an ironic juxtaposition as well as a cultural signifier of coolness to their peers. Playing ethnicky jazz To parade your snazz On your five-grand stereo Braggin' that you know How the niggers feel cold And the slum's got so much soul
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zoux posted:The Senate is reauthorizing NCLB today, does anyone know if it got tweaked or what? NCLB basically is dead, the senate bill is a replacement which returns a bunch of policy making power to the states while keeping performance tracking for schools. http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2015/12/08/458844737/no-child-left-behind-an-obituary
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Martin Shkreli is truly dedicated to being human garbage. Is this about him jacking the Wu-Tang album? e: Yes it is, missed that.
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The Iron Rose posted:and now we're back to hey man, it's not my fault your lovely metaphor doesn't stand up to the remotest scrutiny
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Shifty Pony posted:NCLB basically is dead, the senate bill is a replacement which returns a bunch of policy making power to the states while keeping performance tracking for schools. Haha so it keeps the worst part about it, sounds dope.
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Muscle Tracer posted:hey man, it's not my fault your lovely metaphor doesn't stand up to the remotest scrutiny nah more that shitposting in defense of anti-intellectualism and bad faith interpretations is so profoundly lazy, ignorant, and dumb that I don't really see why you deserve anything but a pat on the head as a response.
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Quorum posted:A lot of people have fond memories of their first lovely job down at the local movie theater or what have you when they were 16. "Builds character" and stuff like that. You might be able to get people behind banning industrial work under 18, but there's no way in hell you'll ever get people behind banning farm labor-- too many rural teenagers grow up working on their parents' or a nearby farm. Even before sixteen, too. It's a weird grey area I don't think the law even looks at much. They tried to do it in Canada and someone compared it to Stalin collectivizing the farms and killing the kulaks.
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Luigi Thirty posted:They tried to do it in Canada and someone compared it to Stalin collectivizing the farms and killing the kulaks. What did the opposition say.
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PhazonLink posted:**hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaha Solar's actually come an incredibly long way in the last decade (in large part because governments and corporations started investing legitimate amounts of money in it), to the point where it's actually getting reasonably competitive with more 'traditional' sources. It's not a perfect replacement for an ideally modern nuclear system (nothing really is, but try getting people on board with that) but it's profoundly better than any of the alternatives that politicians will consider and it really isn't the "lol, solar" financial mistake that people would paint it as. Comparing the solar tech on the market in 2015 to what was available even in 2008 is like comparing the livability and performance of a Tesla P90D to a GeeWiz and it's really unfortunate that public perception hasn't caught up with the advances (and that there are tons of interests vested in keeping it where it is).
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Solar's actually come an incredibly long way in the last decade (in large part because governments and corporations started investing legitimate amounts of money in it), to the point where it's actually getting reasonably competitive with more 'traditional' sources. It's not going to change the fact that Germany gets about as much solar exposure as Seattle.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Solar's actually come an incredibly long way in the last decade (in large part because governments and corporations started investing legitimate amounts of money in it), to the point where it's actually getting reasonably competitive with more 'traditional' sources. Does it seem that the technology will continue to make advances in the short term, or have we reached another sort of efficiency plateau for the time being? The evolution of solar's feasibility has been interesting to me, but I don't know where to get good information on it because as you say, there are interested parties suppressing the spread of that information.
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mdemone posted:Does it seem that the technology will continue to make advances in the short term, or have we reached another sort of efficiency plateau for the time being? The evolution of solar's feasibility has been interesting to me, but I don't know where to get good information on it because as you say, there are interested parties suppressing the spread of that information. Presently (well as of when I last looked in July) cost is falling in line with Moore's law so even if the efficiency per m^2 froze, it would be more cost efficient
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Solar's actually come an incredibly long way in the last decade (in large part because governments and corporations started investing legitimate amounts of money in it), to the point where it's actually getting reasonably competitive with more 'traditional' sources. The thing is in actuality, when places shut down nuclear with a goal of switching to solar, they instead just build more fossil fuel. Fried Chicken posted:Presently (well as of when I last looked in July) cost is falling in line with Moore's law so even if the efficiency per m^2 froze, it would be more cost efficient All the cost efficiency in the world doesn't make the sun shine at night, or give you free storage of energy produced in hours when it will go to waste though. That's the big problem with solar as a major part of the electricity grid.
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mdemone posted:Does it seem that the technology will continue to make advances in the short term, or have we reached another sort of efficiency plateau for the time being? The evolution of solar's feasibility has been interesting to me, but I don't know where to get good information on it because as you say, there are interested parties suppressing the spread of that information. Solar itself is actually already where it needs to be, especially in combination with newer turbine designs in wind, the main issue is energy storage. According to a friend who works in that area, there are some very promising new ideas in the works but I have no idea how far along those are.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Martin Shkreli is truly dedicated to being human garbage. Apparently he then went onto Youtube and started thinking out loud about other musicians whose work he might want to monopolize.
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I don't see Wu Tang keeping their end of the bargain. They'll release it online knowing the internet and general citizens of the world hates this dude.
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zoux posted:What did the opposition say. "lol" I think.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Solar's actually come an incredibly long way in the last decade (in large part because governments and corporations started investing legitimate amounts of money in it), to the point where it's actually getting reasonably competitive with more 'traditional' sources. Solar owns in like Arizona and Nevada though. Shame it requires some funky elements that are a bitch and a half to separate out.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Solar owns in like Arizona and Nevada though. Shame it requires some funky elements that are a bitch and a half to separate out. Welllllll.... Not really. Mostly Coal, Gas, and Nuclear. Palo Verde Nuclear Plant puts out 3,875 MW from three reactors. The only solar plant in Arizona contributes: 280 MW Nevada, on the other hand generates: 934.575 MW from 15 solar plants. But 6,341 from 11 Fossil plants.
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Wow, you mean incumbent energy sources built over decades are producing more energy than solar plants?
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Nonsense posted:I don't see Wu Tang keeping their end of the bargain. They'll release it online knowing the internet and general citizens of the world hates this dude. Nah. I'm fairly certain there is a contract involved that prevents exactly this sort of thing, and it may even provide for damages in excess of the purchase price. Plus it kind of goes against the artistic integrity of the whole thing.
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Radbot posted:Wow, you mean incumbent energy sources built over decades are producing more energy than solar plants? That isn't the issue. The problem is that people are acting like Solar alone is going to totally replace all current power generation. Its not. The land usage per MW is just too damned much. It can easily offset usage, but by itself will likely never totally replace on demand generation solutions. Therein lies the problem: We NEED on demand generation solutions, but we need ones that do not produce the CO2 of fossil fuels. We've debated this heavily in the Power Generation thread: Nuclear is the only thing that comes close enough. 
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ReidRansom posted:Nah. I'm fairly certain there is a contract involved that prevents exactly this sort of thing, and it may even provide for damages in excess of the purchase price. Plus it kind of goes against the artistic integrity of the whole thing. Oh, then he wins at life again, I guess.
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Have you ever been to Nevada? I mean, outside of Las Vegas? Land usage per MW isn't really an issue there, though other issues with solar remain. Can we quit with the nuclear circlejerk though? I agree, it's the best solution, everyone on this board does. It's not going to happen though.
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I dont think we should cover the whole desert in solar panels. The desert biome has niche stuff too.
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Radbot posted:Have you ever been to Nevada? I mean, outside of Las Vegas? Land usage per MW isn't really an issue there, though other issues with solar remain. Other things live there than humans, and I doubt everyone wants to wallpaper the entire desert with solar panels.
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Radbot posted:Can we quit with the nuclear circlejerk though? Or can we contain it to the 3 threads where it has gone overgrown?
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PhazonLink posted:I dont think we should cover the whole desert in solar panels. The desert biome has niche stuff too. Yeah, scorpions and centipedes and lovely rats.
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PhazonLink posted:I dont think we should cover the whole desert in solar panels. The desert biome has niche stuff too. For a brief moment I thought you wanted to bring back Pauly Shore.
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zoux posted:Yeah, scorpions and centipedes and lovely rats. Of the coolest sounding thing I remember from highschool. Cryptobiotic crusts.
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They were.... not sure if they still are. Why does everything you write write come across as idiotic?
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