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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Right, I think the thought is that if he goes third party /after/ the convention, they can say he's sabotaging the party because the nominee was done so under a legitimate process. While I agree with this, I don't think it will help them with the bigger problem at hand where the chunk of the party supports Trump specifically because he isn't an establishment player and that he's specifically breaking the party. Judging by the reactions at Trump rallies where people cheer him on when he yells horrible poo poo about Muslims, I get the feeling these are the folks that voted Republican for years due to their racist dog-whistling but now are mad that nobody in the GOP has actually pushed through on ethnic cleansing like the racists wanted. Now they're getting it in Trump, and calling him a traitor to conservatism is exactly what his supporters want (alongside the literal death of all browns/mooslims/catholics/liberals/abortion doctors/that neighbor down the street that talks funny/starbucks red cups/etc.)
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JT Jag posted:Part of the reason the media has covered him so much now is that he's a Republican candidate. How bizarre, that a Republican candidate is saying all this. A Republican candidate for President can't say that! Republicans are supposed to be a mainstream party, taken seriously as Serious People. And if he were to run on a Tea Party ticket? They're a fringe movement that was pretty much born of the media.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:06
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Someone help me I'm agreeing with Cruz http://www.computerworld.com/article/3014365/it-careers/sen-ted-cruz-wants-minimum-h-1b-wage-of-110-000.html?google_editors_picks=true quote:U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, has morphed from a vocal supporter of the H-1B program to a leading critic of it. He has done so in a new H-1B reform bill designed to raise the cost of hiring temporary visa workers.
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Ripoff posted:While I agree with this, I don't think it will help them with the bigger problem at hand where the chunk of the party supports Trump specifically because he isn't an establishment player and that he's specifically breaking the party. The President setting restrictions on immigration from classes of foreign aliens isn't ethnic cleansing, it's constitutional. Let me ask you this: If J. Edgar Hoover were still around, how would his FBI handle the current crisis of radicals?
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Dec 11, 2015 16:06
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Necc0 posted:Someone help me I'm agreeing with Cruz Completely lost me when it got to the OPT. I'm aware of corporations abusing the system to bring in foreign labor to do work (CSC), but further in it just seems like a way to stick it to immigration reform. Interesting though that he'd want a minimum wage tied to inflation for foreign citizens though.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:11
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Ripoff posted:While I agree with this, I don't think it will help them with the bigger problem at hand where the chunk of the party supports Trump specifically because he isn't an establishment player and that he's specifically breaking the party. Right but running as a third party candidate is exceptionally difficult and would actually require a lot of work on his part to get on enough ballots to matter. Like obviously the party establishment considers it enough of a threat that they're unwilling to openly risk it, but in their mind, him causing them to lose the election is way less dangerous for the party than him being their nominee. They are acutely aware that there is a battle for the ideological soul (i hate that term) of the party and they do not want Trumpism to take hold.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:12
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He would only need to be on he ballot in a few states to guarantee HRC victory. That's a pretty good leverage.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:13
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Necc0 posted:Someone help me I'm agreeing with Cruz Getting rid of OPT would be disastrous. OPT is the program that American educated international students use to work in the US after graduation. Sponsoring people for H1-B's is already a huge hassle for companies when they aren't able to pay them pennies (e.g. hiring foreigners graduating from US colleges) to make up for it, and so there's a simple reason that they bother. They NEED the talent. A number of industries would tank in the US without the ability to hire these people.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:21
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Just to help me out as a UK person enjoying and being scared by the spectacle. What is the time line of events yet to come. When are the first primaries and which matters most?
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Dec 11, 2015 16:22
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Shakugan posted:Getting rid of OPT would be disastrous. OPT is the program that American educated international students use to work in the US after graduation. Sponsoring people for H1-B's is already a huge hassle for companies when they aren't able to pay them pennies (e.g. hiring foreigners graduating from US colleges) to make up for it, and so there's a simple reason that they bother. They NEED the talent. A number of industries would tank in the US without the ability to hire these people. Yeah the OPT part is obviously garbage. As for the H1-B any time a job-creator bemoans how it's impossible to find the talent they need in the US marketplace your brain should automatically add 'for the price I want' to the end. I'm fine with companies using H1-B as long as they sincerely can't find the people they need. Unfortunately that's usually not the case. The problem is it takes a lot of work to analyze any given job market for talent availability and establishing a minimum wage is actually a fairly elegant solution to the problem.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:27
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Tsietisin posted:Just to help me out as a UK person enjoying and being scared by the spectacle. The first primaries are in early February. Tradition gives Iowa and New Hampshire the first primaries. Usually winning Iowa is a strong indicator of success - Obama won Iowa but lost NH to Clinton in '08, eventually pulling out the nomination after months of heavily contested primaries.
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Necc0 posted:Someone help me I'm agreeing with Cruz
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I remember when I got out of college and pretty much every CS job offer in newspapers was like $30-40k a year and required a masters along with 10 years experience in several different languages. One language hadn't even been used for as long as they wanted. They were pretty blatantly posted just so when no one applied they could  and say they had to get people from other countries since no one in the US was qualified.
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Suitaru posted:The first primaries are in early February. Tradition gives Iowa and New Hampshire the first primaries. Usually winning Iowa is a strong indicator of success - Obama won Iowa but lost NH to Clinton in '08, eventually pulling out the nomination after months of heavily contested primaries. Democratic primaries aren't Republican primaries. What matters most for Republicans is how the solid south goes. The solid south is solidly behind Trump. Unfortunately, the RNC is attempting to break up the solid south. JT Jag posted:Broken clock, Are we back to Houston already?
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Dec 11, 2015 16:32
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The Republican nomination process is hosed up as hell if you get into the weeds of how they come up with delegates.
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Suitaru posted:The first primaries are in early February. Ahem. FTFY. #FITN JT Jag posted:Broken clock, right twice a day, etc More like that the hard right and the hard left occasionally agree on things.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:The Republican nomination process is hosed up as hell if you get into the weeds of how they come up with delegates. It's the tradition of the grand old party. How do you think the Republicans nominated Lincoln, if not for convention shenanigans?
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I'm not sure if this got posted here yet. If this is how JEB! is spending his campaign funds, I can't say I disapprove.
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Attacking OPT is dumb, it's one of the few ways that foreign workers actually compete equally in the job market (because if you underpay or abuse them they can walk freely to another employer) and everyone on it is a US grad so you would just be shipping away your graduates that much sooner than we already do. Fixing H-1Bs is something that needs to happen, but that isn't a good approach, because it doesn't actually target the primary sources of abuse in the program (worker mills, contracting, and exploiting workers). Setting a minimum wage at $110,000 would kill the H-1B for a lot of legitimate employers (like universities, where pay scales are determined by CBAs and unions) while worker mills would just continue to throw in paperwork and cheat the end employee. If you are not going to engage in comprehensive reform (which is what really needs to happen but never will) you should focus on performing timely audits/inspections of H-1B employers and put worker classification with the DOL instead of letting it be employer-generated.
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Kurieg posted:I'm not sure if this got posted here yet. Is that a response from JEB!'s PAC to the Carson campaign or something?
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SavageBastard posted:Is that a response from JEB!'s PAC to the Carson campaign or something?
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So a bunch of conservative people I know on my Facebook feed have been banging on about Trump not truly representing the GOP and cheering on Paul Ryan's condemnation of Trump. This made me curious about the CPVI and what GOP stronghold districts look like in terms of their representation of the Party in general. One thing I am noticing in the most powerfully R districts is that the rep. serving has very strong scores from single-issues organizations like the NRA or the Right to Life Committee, but has rubbish scores from Heritage Action or Conservative Review. These are members who've been serving a long time in practically uncontested fashion, and they seem for obvious reasons to back institutional horses like Romney or have been in office since before the Tea Party wave. I guess I am just wondering how it could be that CR and Heritage--organizations which basically took Gingrich's "Contract" idea and ran with it--can be so polarized and speak so strongly to Republican voices, while clashing outright with the representatives of vehemently R districts. Is this a geographical thing, an institutional issue (given the long hold on these districts), or what? Are more hotly contested districts represented by more polarized figures, and is that true of both D+ and R+ districts?
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Dec 11, 2015 16:46
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JT Jag posted:It's one of his better jabs at Trump. That doesn't say much though. The most cringeworthy jab we've seen from Jeb! is his "Barack Obama! The other one!" attack on Trump. I mean, really? No one is buying that the two are similar, and so making that claim just made Jeb! look even more awkward than he usually does.
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SavageBastard posted:Is that a response from JEB!'s PAC to the Carson campaign or something? It's part of the letter from Jeb's lawyers to Trump's informing them that they had asked the FEC to investigate Trump's campaign funding.
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Ashcans posted:Attacking OPT is dumb, it's one of the few ways that foreign workers actually compete equally in the job market (because if you underpay or abuse them they can walk freely to another employer) and everyone on it is a US grad so you would just be shipping away your graduates that much sooner than we already do. The broad minimum wage is too crude agreed but they could probably set it on a per-job title basis using DoL wage statistics for each metropolitan area. Basically find the median wage for a given job category in a certain area and that's your minimum wage for an H1-B
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Gravel Gravy posted:With getting the Presidency in 2016? Being the president is bad for a party's political chances
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The reason Trump will win isn't even necessarily the racism he's inspired but because anybody who says anything to oppose him looks like a dork.
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My Imaginary GF posted:It's also the norm in Asia to not have sex until you're in your mid-20s. Nope. Folks in Asia go to hotels to gently caress. There are whole hotel districts in Korean cities. Reasonably priced, discreet, and built for bangin.
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Here's a window into the mindset of some small-money Trump donors:quote:John Captain, of Portland Tub and Tan, home of “Portland’s premier hot tubbing and tanning specialists with exclusive outdoor hot tubs year round,” was glad that I called because he wanted to talk about his girlfriend, who he believes was a monarch mind control slave who was murdered by her family, part of the Illuminati and the New World Order. quote:“I think he’s correct on that,” the elder Maxwell said of Trump’s proposed ban. “I don’t like ’em. I wish they’d go back to the mid-East and stay there—all of ’em. I would refuse to get in a taxi cab with a Muslim driving it with a headband on.”
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So I was going to respond more on organizing, but it isn't really something you can type up well on a phone, and then last night got away from me, and now it has been like 20 pages. So here's a piece from Ryan Cooper basically saying what I was. You can't treat it like a pathology, the horrible poo poo is a result of how they are being organized now, if we don't get out there and break that power base we can't move forward. here is a great piece from Ryan Lizza on the HFC and fall of Boehner. It comes off like he had to make is a bit of a puff piece for them to get the interviews, but he drops a few good bits that show what jackasses they are and the problems with the base. New NBC poll in Georgia this morning. Trump at 43% Kurieg posted:I'm not sure if this got posted here yet. Bush is about the last motherfucker on the planet who should be whining about "but you are breaking the FEC rules!"
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Necc0 posted:The broad minimum wage is too crude agreed but they could probably set it on a per-job title basis using DoL wage statistics for each metropolitan area. Basically find the median wage for a given job category in a certain area and that's your minimum wage for an H1-B That would certainly help. A big part of the problem at the moment is that the prevailing wage is basically self-reported - employers can just pick whatever category they like from the data (or use a survey) and no one actually compares it to the job being done, so it's trivial for a worker mill to categorize developers as some lower level worker and underpay them. Or indicate they'll be working in a lower-paying area and then contract them to a client in a high-paying region instead.
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NH State Police Union endorses Trump after he announces his Muslim ban. I can't say I've been particularly proud of my state the last couple of weeks.
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Getting rid of OPT as Cruz suggests would almost certainly mean that practically every international student graduating from a US college would be unable to stay in the US; the H1-B process is a pain for employers and they generally aren't willing to go for it unless someone has proved themselves. It also takes a long time, and the graduates would have to be sent home in the mean time. This would starve entire industries (the finance industry among them).
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KirbyKhan posted:Nope. Folks in Asia go to hotels to gently caress. There are whole hotel districts in Korean cities. Reasonably priced, discreet, and built for bangin. How's going to a hotel a few nights a week save ya money? Just move out and get an apartment in a working-class minority party of your city.
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Might as well shut down The Onion now, real life is outperforming them
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Shakugan posted:... This would starve entire industries (the finance industry among them). Not seeing a problem.
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My Imaginary GF posted:How's going to a hotel a few nights a week save ya money? Just move out and get an They're hourly and priced accordingly.
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ReidRansom posted:Not seeing a problem. The point I'm making there is that it'll also harm the industries that prop up the GOP, so there's no way it'll go through anyway. I'm genuinely surprised that no ones minders or lobbyists pointed this out to these chuckle fucks. Arcanen fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Tender Bender posted:They're hourly and priced accordingly. That's disgusting. America doesn't rent hotels by the hour; it goes against everything our zoning laws stand for. When you purchase a room in America, you purchase it for a night.
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I'm surprised JEB! hasn't jumped on the chance to attack Trump over his decisions to not visit Israel. Even if its a terrible idea, I figured he is so desperate and frustrated at this point that he would take any opportunity to attack Trump.
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