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Raskolnikov38 posted:I really don't think it's possible to assign a value to the data in way that's going to be fair or non-idiotic. Esp. without more detailed info about how it was leaked. I'd still think the provider was at fault. I mean imagine going into a database you go many times a day, and all the sudden your permissions are altered through no action on your part. It would be kinda like searching your office server - that everybody has permissions for - for a graphic file you need to write a manual for in-house software, and you get all these nudie pics, and you realize you've inadvertently discovered your co-worker's porn stash on the company server, of all places. Are you now guilty of using the company computer for viewing porn? What if, even worse, you download a couple of them to a flash drive and keep your mouth shut about your dumb co-worker in order to not get him fired, but then you are accused of viewing porn on a company computer, and he isn't? Just hypothetically speaking.
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greatn posted:Yeah but he didn't steal the infrastructure and dbas, he peeked and probably exported some volunteer gathered data which in the end was probably mostly redundant with his own. You are very wrong if you think the Sanders campaign already had the Clinton campaign's ranking of likely Clinton voters. When they stole that data it was the single most valuable dataset they can steal because they could use it to vastly improve their field and targeting operations. SnakePlissken posted:Esp. without more detailed info about how it was leaked. I'd still think the provider was at fault. I mean imagine going into a database you go many times a day, and all the sudden your permissions are altered through no action on your part.
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SnakePlissken posted:Esp. without more detailed info about how it was leaked. I'd still think the provider was at fault. I mean imagine going into a database you go many times a day, and all the sudden your permissions are altered through no action on your part. I think the audit logs clearly demonstrate this wasn't some kind of innocent mistake: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/18/merged_document.pdf Searching things for 40 minutes, sharing it with multiple people, saving data and etc. File names prefixed with HFA.
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SnakePlissken posted:Esp. without more detailed info about how it was leaked. I'd still think the provider was at fault. I mean imagine going into a database you go many times a day, and all the sudden your permissions are altered through no action on your part. Please notice the following things you have done. 1. You have changed legitimate files to porn. Thus automatically shifting guilt to the Clinton campaign. 2. You then use this to treat stealing them as harmless since they weren't legitimate files anyway. 3. Then you act like not reporting this was somehow a favor to the Clinton campaign.
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computer parts posted:Except the latter still hated black people. Not gonna argue this point specifically, but you can see the shift from the Dem/Clinton healthcare proposal vs the Heritage Foundation healthcare proposal in the 90s as it contrasts to Obamacare and plans for Chained CPI in recent years.
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The fact that the debate falls at the same time as a Jets-Cowboys NFL broadcast means that the attempts at YouTube-able zingers / soundbites will be in overdrive. I would anticipate extremely packaged one-liners from Martin O'Malley in particular.
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Bip Roberts posted:*robs a bank* These are all terrible analogies. I'm saying the data he stole wasnt worth $100 million dollars. Maybe the entire database is.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Not gonna argue this point specifically, but you can see the shift from the Dem/Clinton healthcare proposal vs the Heritage Foundation healthcare proposal in the 90s as it contrasts to Obamacare and plans for Chained CPI in recent years. They ACA is head and shoulders better than the Heritage proposal. There weren't votes for a public option. This has been discussed at length in the past. Best move on before Willa hears the siren call of Healthcare policy chat.
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That's an insult to the Spiral King  He triumphantly beat despair instead of politicised rear end kicking.
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It appears Martin O'Malley has secured the coveted Madigliani endorsement.
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greatn posted:These are all terrible analogies. I'm saying the data he stole wasnt worth $100 million dollars. Maybe the entire database is. I never said the data he stole was, but the value of the database as a whole is what dictates the security applied. A better analogy might be someone at a high stakes table at a casino reaching over and taking their neighbor's chips when a drink is spilled and not expecting security to see it when they replay the tapes. There's simply no way that a person reasonably competent in IT would not have known that a security bug in a new patch was certainly going to trigger a log check to see if anyone took advantage of it.
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GalacticAcid posted:It appears Martin O'Malley has secured the coveted Madigliani endorsement. An unidentified man stands next to his own head.
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The PC Police at Oberlin College are mad about food.quote:Some Oberlin College students have taken issue with the campus dining services at the college, saying dining services is improperly preparing dishes and labeling them as Asian. What's the New York Post headline about this? Students at Lena Dunham’s college offended by lack of fried chicken. The National Review, meanwhile, is very concerned about the college Black Student Union's anti-white racism and demands to be paid for doing nothing.
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News flash: College dorm food loving sucks. I don't see why this is US Political news.
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Bastard Tetris posted:News flash: College dorm food loving sucks. I don't see why this is US Political news. Stories about offended college students are clickbait gold these days. Journalists are probably trawling through every college paper's editorial section right now looking for something to capitalize on.
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Bastard Tetris posted:News flash: College dorm food loving sucks. I don't see why this is US Political news. Because the students at the school decided to politicize it.
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Mayor Dave posted:Because the students at the school decided to politicize it. What did they do to do that exactly?
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socialsecurity posted:What did they do to do that exactly? Apparently, complaining about anything is now politicizing it.
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fishmech posted:Apparently, complaining about anything is now politicizing it. If that dang Obama would just stop being black we wouldn't have so much racism.
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Mayor Dave posted:Because the students at the school decided to politicize it. The students, it seems, complained to the school that a lot of their 'ethnic' dishes were wrong and in some cases straight up weirdly not a thing at all and, ya know, as people from those ethnic groups, they'd like if the school is going to do their food for them to do it at least trying to be right. This is some weirdo third party seeing this and yelling "HAHA WHAT A BABY".
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That one example of putting beef in one meal is like offering traditional Jewish cuisine, then giving Gefilte Pork.
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Yea there's some stuff you can play semantics on but I'd be pretty annoyed if a "Jewish menu" offered me a nice plate of latkes with bacon bits in them served with cheese.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea there's some stuff you can play semantics on but I'd be pretty annoyed if a "Jewish menu" offered me a nice plate of latkes with bacon bits in them served with cheese. The most delicious of apostasies.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:The most delicious of apostasies. Well yea as a filthy reform Jew heathen that sounds like some pretty bomb rear end smothered hashbrowns, I just wouldn't try to pass it as Jew food.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Well yea as a filthy reform Jew heathen that sounds like some pretty bomb rear end smothered hashbrowns, I just wouldn't try to pass it as Jew food. It sounds like something out of a corny comedy sketch than real life in any case.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea there's some stuff you can play semantics on but I'd be pretty annoyed if a "Jewish menu" offered me a nice plate of latkes with bacon bits in them served with cheese. The term for this is 'sacrilicious.'
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It's being framed as "the PC Police saying eating foreign food is cultural appropriation!!!" or something.
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Though really, serving "tandoori beef" is stupid.
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Joementum posted:Though really, serving "tandoori beef" is stupid. They should serve some nice all-American horse burgers
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Joementum posted:Though really, serving "tandoori beef" is stupid. The regions it originated from are majority Muslim so ?
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Stultus Maximus posted:The regions it originated from are majority Muslim so ? And? The traditional tandoori main ingredient is chicken, dude.
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Night10194 posted:The term for this is 'sacrilicious.' There we go, I was trying to think of the right term, thanks. Now I want Flying Spaghetti Monster-themed spaghetti.
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greatn posted:These are all terrible analogies. I'm saying the data he stole wasnt worth $100 million dollars. Maybe the entire database is. loving who cares? Further, loving who cares if Bernie himself accessed or knew about it instead of some employees? The contract clearly said, "If members of your campaign do X, then Y sanctions will be applied." Don't like it? Think there should be different values for Y? Shouldn't have signed that contract!
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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I am deeply offended that the minimum wage line cook employed by whichever prison food contractor my school hired to churn out bachelor chow for the hungover masses can't make authentic pho.
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MariusLecter posted:xposting myself from the DnD pics thread. OH MY GOD
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I am deeply offended that the minimum wage line cook employed by whichever prison food contractor my school hired to churn out bachelor chow for the hungover masses can't make authentic pho. Are most universities really this bad at food service? I went to school in Oklahoma and even our poo poo school made an effort to have legitimate international food in the food courts.
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Night10194 posted:The term for this is 'sacrilicious.' More like 'sacrilidelicious'.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I am deeply offended that the minimum wage line cook employed by whichever prison food contractor my school hired to churn out bachelor chow for the hungover masses can't make authentic pho. You mean work study student?
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