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shrike82 posted:I'm all in favor of maximally pissing off white people during Christmas but I've been scratching my head about protests like OWS and BLM. BLM usually has a list of specific goals for each action they are doing. They're just not always reported. You can find them on the specific website for that city's BLM.
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Silver Nitrate posted:Has anyone done analysis on whether or not this conforms to the lead+crime hypothesis? It'd be far too early to tell, and it might not even be applicable? We know lead damages the brain, and I thought it was pretty well accepted that that leads to learning disabilities and social disorders. The question behind the lead-crime hypothesis was whether leaded gasoline resulted in enough lead in the air to cause enough poisoning to get those kinds of results on such a broad scale. If the connection between lead poisoning-->low education/antisocial behavior-->crime is still up for debate, Flint will make for a hell of a test case in 20 years.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:"I might not see my family right on time!" There are many, many victims of police brutality out there. Michael Brown wasn't one of them. Maybe try substituting in Tommy Yancy or Tyree Woodson into the list instead? Or really anyone who wasnt shot after trying to take an officer's weapon, then turning and charging the officer in the middle of the street.
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Lessail posted:In more Adelson buying the Las Vegas Review-Journal news, a maybe fake Connecticut reporter used fake quotes in an article questioning the judge in Vegas that oversees a lawsuit against Adelson. So in a follow up, that maybe fake Connecticut reporter? He's a plagarist and also might be the current manager of the company now in charge of the Review-Journal 
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Not a Step posted:There are many, many victims of police brutality out there. Michael Brown wasn't one of them. Maybe try substituting in Tommy Yancy or Tyree Woodson into the list instead? Or really anyone who wasnt shot after trying to take an officer's weapon, then turning and charging the officer in the middle of the street. Lol yea the hulking demon defense
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Lessail posted:from that article If I'm ever stuck in some kind of thing like this I hope I'm as clear headed as this guy was. The go to response to anyone saying they were inconvenienced should be "at least you're going home for the holidays and weren't killed by someone acting on authority of the government for no good reason." MLK posted:I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” You see this a lot in the cop thread where not shaking the boat and respecting the word of the law is much more important that actual injustices. Just wait, don't raise a fuss and the system will Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Not a Step posted:There are many, many victims of police brutality out there. Michael Brown wasn't one of them. Maybe try substituting in Tommy Yancy or Tyree Woodson into the list instead? Or really anyone who wasnt shot after trying to take an officer's weapon, then turning and charging the officer in the middle of the street. Oh you saw the dashcam footage?
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Michael Brown made a blood pact with Mannoroth, he was no saint
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joeburz posted:Lol yea the hulking demon defense Not everyone is an innocent symbol. And just because 'hands up don't shoot' wasn't appropriate to Brown's situation doesn't mean it's not still an appropriate rallying cry for the many others. Just not Brown. Even the feds reached the same conclusion.
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"It's okay to do <x> to someone because it's not as bad as <y> that happened to someone else." Airtight logic.
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Not a Step posted:Not everyone is an innocent symbol. And just because 'hands up don't shoot' wasn't appropriate to Brown's situation doesn't mean it's not still an appropriate rallying cry for the many others. Just not Brown. Even the feds reached the same conclusion. Well good thing browns dead so there's no real challenge to the cops story
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Not a Step posted:Even the feds reached the same conclusion. The feds?  Well why didn't you say that before! You can always trust the feds, it's not like they're entirely culpable for the system's continued existence.
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I'd write a response to your post, but like most white Americans I'm content to let a minority handle a job I find distasteful
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Read the feds report on ferguson PD, then read about their thoughts on the brown case. One is basically saying Wow yeah this place is royally hosed up, while the latter is But we don't have anything concrete saying what this guy did was wrong. In part because only one person is alive to tell their side of the story, which includes hilarious statements about how they felt powerless in the grasp of Hulking Black Man.
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It's a known fact that black people have a +10% resistance to bullets as part of their racial bonuses
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Not a Step posted:There are many, many victims of police brutality out there. Michael Brown wasn't one of them. Maybe try substituting in Tommy Yancy or Tyree Woodson into the list instead? Or really anyone who wasnt shot after trying to take an officer's weapon, then turning and charging the officer in the middle of the street. *later at parent/teacher meeting* "Your son has great trolling potential, but it's disappointing to see him not put in the effort. He repeatedly turns in sub-par work, when he bothers doing it at all. Is everything all right at home?"
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Could a modern day American politician hey away with something like internment camps? Also happy holidays everybody
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This is from a few pages back...Radish posted:Look if employees pay the dollar and change to feed a hungry child how will that child benefit from hunger motivsting her to better success. And when you're not old enough to work, but still hungry, you can hold on to that motivation, like a little ember of capitalist fire within you. Also about that whole "not old enough to work" thing...
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SedanChair posted:This is from a few pages back... That's why we need to abolish all child labor laws, obviously.
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Can I get some suggestions on books dealing with corporate corruption?
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Mr Interweb posted:Can I get some suggestions on books dealing with corporate corruption? Dealing with, or shedding light on? Two very different types of books and i don't recommend too much of the latter because it will infuriate you. A few of them are nice primers on the history and actors and issues though. The financial sector itself has probably the most literature regarding its corruption. All The Devils Are Here by Mclean and Nocera or any of the Taibbi books (if you enjoy his writing) aren't a bad place to start As far as books purely about policy adjustments to fix corporate corruption, I don't have any good recs off the top of my head.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Has anyone discussed the lead outbreak in Flint, Michigan? It's been a top news story with the BBC News but doesn't seem to be getting any coverage here in the States, it's a pretty big public health crisis when the mayor is declaring a state of emergency. Not as much as they should be, considering that the Detroit Free Press just published an article about how state officials lied to the EPA and cherry-picked their test results to avoid showing there was a problem. God, Snyder and his cronies should burn for this.
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Another example of the out-of-control Obama administration's lax border policy.quote:The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) today issued a movement permit to Mr. S. Claus of the North Pole, a broker with Worldwide Gifts, Unlimited. The permit will allow reindeer to enter and exit the United States between the hours of 6 PM December 24, 2015 and 6 AM December 25, 2015, through or over any northern border port. Shaking my head, Obama, SMDH.
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shrike82 posted:I'm all in favor of maximally pissing off white people during Christmas but I've been scratching my head about protests like OWS and BLM. Well it has also done a good job separating liberals who actually care about change and progress and liberals who like to say they are until it inconveniences them in some way. Exactly the same thing happens during union strikes. "Oh I support labor and fairness and good working conditions but this is making my life difficult so I can't support them." Teachers' strikes are even worse. "How dare they use our children's education as a bargaining chip!"
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Another attack on Main Street by letting foreign gifts flood American homes.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Not as much as they should be, considering that the Detroit Free Press just published an article about how state officials lied to the EPA and cherry-picked their test results to avoid showing there was a problem. They won't though. The narrative has shifted to blaming homeowners for not upgrading their plumbing. "It's a shame about those kids, but you know upgrading plumbing and all that is part of owning a home and I guess those parents learned that the hard way. It's what happens when you live in a hand-out society." - paraphrasing my conservative in-laws Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Not as much as they should be, considering that the Detroit Free Press just published an article about how state officials lied to the EPA and cherry-picked their test results to avoid showing there was a problem.  nutty fygm conservatives.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They won't though. The narrative has shifted to blaming homeowners for not upgrading their plumbing. How the gently caress do they actually think this excuse will fly?
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CommieGIR posted:How the gently caress do they actually think this excuse will fly?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They won't though. The narrative has shifted to blaming homeowners for not upgrading their plumbing.  What problem in America *can't* be solved with victim blaming?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They won't though. The narrative has shifted to blaming homeowners for not upgrading their plumbing. If only we'd listened  
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:
Y'know, at this point, between Trump loudly rallying the Tea Party's even more racist/white supremacist side, and multiple Governors making asses of themselves, I really get scared about our future sometimes.
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SumYungGui posted:
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VanSandman posted:9-11? Let me tell you about false flags!
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Stultus Maximus posted:Well it has also done a good job separating liberals who actually care about change and progress and liberals who like to say they are until it inconveniences them in some way. People traveling across the globe to visit their families for a holiday is not the same as them going to work everyday imo.
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Victim blaming only works if the victims aren't overwhelmingly white and wealthy.
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CommieGIR posted:Y'know, at this point, between Trump loudly rallying the Tea Party's even more racist/white supremacist side, and multiple Governors making asses of themselves, I really get scared about our future sometimes. Yeah it sucks, my new thing is trying to do what I can through voting and talking to people who will listen but by also volunteering more and taking a more active role in making my community a better place. There's only so much you can do but making the place you live in a better place even incrementally is cathartic.
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Xae posted:Constantly being in the news and disrupting things let the Occupy Wall Street movement force through landmark legislation such as: Accomplishments:
I mean it slanted way too much towards white college students and whites in general, but there were still protests like Oakland, which is probably the most occupy-y of all, down to actually occupying a foreclosed building as their headquarters. But you're right, it wasn't able to get something passed given the house and the tea party morons in it, complete failure, everyone point and laugh
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They won't though. The narrative has shifted to blaming homeowners for not upgrading their plumbing. Wait, how do they even pretend that this works? Like the lead issues were because of a water source change, right? So what, the plumbing is supposed to include extra filtering to remove the lead? Do normal plumbing installs include filtering to deal with getting your water from a toxic source like the Flint River?
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