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It comes up a lot because video games are for children.
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BadAstronaut posted:I'm still learning. Tonight I said anime wrong, and a few months ago I described Japanese rpgs as often being very juvenile with too many child protagonists saying childish things and got this thread into quite a tizz, I can tell you. shining force is anime.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:51
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bloodychill posted:Anime melodrama gets tiresome and sometimes it's nice to play games where you don't need overly expressive caricatures to help you understand what's going on ive seen way more effective and subtle characterization in JRPGs
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Endorph posted:i legitimately don't understand what people mean when they use the word anime like that though, especially when they want breath of fire sequels and love dragon quest and ff7 I meant it like "dumb childish Japanese animation". But I don't love ff7 so maybe you mean someone else 
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barkley: shut up and jam: gaiden is the best rpg of all time
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bloodychill posted:Anime melodrama gets tiresome and sometimes it's nice to play games where you don't need overly expressive caricatures to help you understand what's going on, thigh I get that some people need certain very visible cues because they have trouble understanding subtext. I wouldn't say that anime has the melodrama market cornered or anything What western games are you pointing to as lacking caricatures and having subtext
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Dec 31, 2015 01:53
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Ruggington posted:shining force is anime. Anime I can handle. But anime-like? Don't get me started!
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hope i'm not stepping on any toes by saying that but it's the truth
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Erg posted:What western games are you pointing to as lacking caricatures and having subtext Ultima, obv alcharagia posted:kid characters in rpgs of any nationality are 80% garbage let's be real here I love this post
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Dec 31, 2015 01:55
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Now if we take "best" to mean "the sum of its parts is overall the highest quality" I'd say it's Chrono Trigger because there's no bad parts of Chrono Trigger and it's astoundingly good from beginning to end, but Barkley: Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden loving rules and is the best.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:57
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bloodychill posted:Anime melodrama gets tiresome and sometimes it's nice to play games where you don't need overly expressive caricatures to help you understand what's going on, thigh I get that some people need certain very visible cues because they have trouble understanding subtext. Thank you, man with Adventure Time avatar.
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Davincie posted:i got the platinium in ni no kuni Speaking of a different topic, is there anything I should know/do in Xenoblade X now that I own it and am going to start it shortly?
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Dec 31, 2015 01:57
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I loved Chrono Trigger. Good game.
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alcharagia posted:kid characters in rpgs of any nationality are 80% garbage let's be real here Tita is pretty cool.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:58
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alcharagia posted:Now if we take "best" to mean "the sum of its parts is overall the highest quality" I'd say it's Chrono Trigger because there's no bad parts of Chrono Trigger and it's astoundingly good from beginning to end, but Barkley: Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden loving rules and is the best. Chrono Trigger's trash mob fights are boring and repetitive.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:58
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Thank you, man with Adventure Time avatar. Strange Quark posted:Chrono Trigger's trash mob fights are boring and repetitive. also the only really interesting parts of the story are frog and magus, and they make up maybe 20-25% of it.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:59
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Endorph posted:doesn't that show reference anime constantly Probably, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people working on it watch anime.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:00
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The Colonel posted:Probably, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people working on it watch anime. didn't it have an actual anime director directing one of the episodes
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Dec 31, 2015 02:01
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Erg posted:didn't it have an actual anime director directing one of the episodes yeah yuasa directed an episode
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Dec 31, 2015 02:02
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Erg posted:didn't it have an actual anime director directing one of the episodes
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Cake Attack posted:yeah yuasa directed an episode that's p cool
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Erg posted:that's p cool
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Endorph posted:doesn't that show reference anime constantly Masaaki Yuasa literally directed an episode. E: beaten while I was looking up how to spell his name properly
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Dec 31, 2015 02:03
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alcharagia posted:the best rpg of all time Still The World Ends with You, but KH3 has a hope of beating it if all this crazy story pays off even a little bit.
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Endorph posted:he did an episode of wakfu too It's, like, the only episode I've seen and it's really loving good, too
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Dec 31, 2015 02:04
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A trailer's soundtrack is very important as the same video with not Japanese pop song would have hooked me. But add that music overt those visuals and I thunk it looks lame (as a first impression based only off a very short trailer). But then the opening vid for Legend of Heroes Tails in the Sky is not miles off that, visually, but sounds way different and leaves a very different impression - for me at least.
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Strange Quark posted:Chrono Trigger's trash mob fights are boring and repetitive. Endorph posted:also the only really interesting parts of the story are frog and magus, and they make up maybe 20-25% of it. these are fair points; what I mean is, Chrono Trigger is very balanced. It has its weak points but its breakneck pacing both in-battle and out keep them from lasting too long and overall the weak points are balanced out by its high points well enough that it comes out to say, a B+/A- grade overall. There are absolutely RPGs I like better than Chrono Trigger, plenty of them, but Chrono Trigger is like, a B- to A- in every single respect, which is a high point in and of itself
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Dec 31, 2015 02:05
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Still The World Ends with You, but KH3 has a hope of beating it if all this crazy story pays off even a little bit. if we're talking about rpgs i like better than chrono trigger
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BadAstronaut posted:A trailer's soundtrack is very important as the same video with not Japanese pop song would have hooked me. But add that music overt those visuals and I thunk it looks lame (as a first impression based only off a very short trailer). But then the opening vid for Legend of Heroes Tails in the Sky is not miles off that, visually, but sounds way different and leaves a very different impression - for me at least. alcharagia posted:these are fair points; what I mean is, Chrono Trigger is very balanced. It has its weak points but its breakneck pacing both in-battle and out keep them from lasting too long and overall the weak points are balanced out by its high points well enough that it comes out to say, a B+/A- grade overall. There are absolutely RPGs I like better than Chrono Trigger, plenty of them, but Chrono Trigger is like, a B- to A- in every single respect, which is a high point in and of itself Honestly even in its short runtime Chrono Trigger is pretty boring to me. It has a strong opening, then basically nothing until you run into Magus again, and then Crono dies and you can revive him if you want I guess but he wasn't a character so who cares, and then the rest of the game is pretty dull. I had to force myself to beat it.
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BadAstronaut posted:A trailer's soundtrack is very important as the same video with not Japanese pop song would have hooked me. But add that music overt those visuals and I thunk it looks lame (as a first impression based only off a very short trailer). But then the opening vid for Legend of Heroes Tails in the Sky is not miles off that, visually, but sounds way different and leaves a very different impression - for me at least. Also they decided to show only the super moves in the trailer instead of like how the battles actually work It is a good game though and you should buy it given the chance
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Dec 31, 2015 02:07
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if you told me to list the 100 best RPGs, chrono trigger might be 88
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I'll rewatch the trailer with Baldur's Gate 2 title screen music playing and see what happens. Yoshimo is the most Japanese thing about that game and we all remember how he turned out BadAstronaut fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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that's fair, it probably wouldn't be very high on my list either
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BadAstronaut posted:I'll rewatch the trailer with Baldur's Gate 2 title screen music playing and see what happens. What a strange little man you are.
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BadAstronaut posted:I'll rewatch the trailer with Baldur's Gate 2 title screen music playing and see what happens.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:10
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Erg posted:It is a good game though and you should buy it given the chance Yeah I'm not hating on the gameplay stuff at all. It comes out here in January and I'll check it out.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:10
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poo poo, if we're talking about RPGs I enjoyed more than Chrono Trigger it probably wouldn't even make the top 100, considering my taste is such that I'm the world's leading authority on Megaman X Command Mission
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alcharagia posted:poo poo, if we're talking about RPGs I enjoyed more than Chrono Trigger it probably wouldn't even make the top 100, considering my taste is such that I'm the world's leading authority on Megaman X Command Mission command mission was okay, but i wish spider didn't get owned
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Endorph posted:can you point to some WRPGs without overly expressive caricatures That have absolutely none? Hard to say since melodrama is popular. In recent years, New Vegas had mostly natural characterizations, notably the companions, Caesar, and NPC's that weren't House, though even his grand-standing made sense considering his unique situation. I'm interested in what JRPG's have mostly subtle characterizations.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Still The World Ends with You, but KH3 has a hope of beating it if all this crazy story pays off even a little bit.
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