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Evil Fluffy posted:If only they could check his pockets for the car's keys or something. I'm sure he left no evidence in the vehicle either. I've responded to a guy in a crashed car in the passenger seat. He was wasted as gently caress. It was his car but he claimed someone was driving him home from a bar, someone he doesn't know, who ran off after he crashed the car. DA wouldn't prosecute for DUI. Sorry guys laws are stupid sometimes.
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Talmonis posted:Then the FBI arrest them. The police, FBI, etc. have the authority to enact force (meaning touching you, using handcuffs, etc.) to arrest you. This....shouldn't be that hard to comprehend. Hands behind your head, there's a good lad. Any and all shooting would be started by militia, and then ended by the law, letting the survivors get a nice long stay in Federal supermax. And what if they don't cooperate? Then the law enforcement agents have to escalate with physical force! And when it becomes a physical scuffle, there is plenty of opportunity for either side to get scared and start shooting, when both sides are already in close quarters. This is how peaceful protests become massacres - the police turn a confrontation physical, an officer gets spooked in the melee and starts shooting, everyone else hears gunshots and starts shooting as well, and bam. kartikeya posted:edit: And oh yeah, they're not going to cut the power because that would also 'escalate things'. FFS. Actually, they can't cut the power because it's physically impossible to do so remotely without also cutting off the power to neighboring ranches. The only way to cut the power to just that building is at that building. But who needs facts when you have wild hyperbole? Torpor posted:Just send the power company out no need to get law enforcement involved. Think the power company will send people without a police escort?
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Intel&Sebastian posted:This isn't some false flag honey potting operation and the FBI is not trying to go for a high score. Actually, it is.
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Main Paineframe posted:Think the power company will send people without a police escort? They might, but then again if they do I'm sure they'll manage to find the two cops in the entire region who aren't bloodthirsty swine.
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Gee that's weird, I recall a lot of protests this summer where people didn't cooperate, police showed up in force and started physical confrontations and none of them turned into massive shootouts.
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Main Paineframe posted:And what if they don't cooperate? Then the law enforcement agents have to escalate with physical force! Did someone kidnap you and replace you with Jrod?
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Main Paineframe posted:And what if they don't cooperate? Then the law enforcement agents have to escalate with physical force! And when it becomes a physical scuffle, there is plenty of opportunity for either side to get scared and start shooting, when both sides are already in close quarters. This is how peaceful protests become massacres - the police turn a confrontation physical, an officer gets spooked in the melee and starts shooting, everyone else hears gunshots and starts shooting as well, and bam. I really don't think I need to add anything to your own words, man. (Yes, I'm aware of the difficulty with the power lines)
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Main Paineframe posted:And what if they don't cooperate? Then shoot them.
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Who What Now posted:Then shoot them. But they were so peaceful
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Also that "wild hyperbole" is a quote from an FBI official via Oregon Public Radio.
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what kills me is the jackass they just arrested has a bail of only 10k.
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Condiv posted:what kills me is the jackass they just arrested has a bail of only 10k. So there's approximately a 110% chance someone will pay his bail and we'll see him on the livestream, sitting on the drum of lube, by Monday.
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Talmonis posted:Then the FBI arrest them. The police, FBI, etc. have the authority to enact force (meaning touching you, using handcuffs, etc.) to arrest you. This....shouldn't be that hard to comprehend. Hands behind your head, there's a good lad. Any and all shooting would be started by militia, and then ended by the law, letting the survivors get a nice long stay in Federal supermax. Main Paineframe posted:And what if they don't cooperate? Then the law enforcement agents have to escalate with physical force! And when it becomes a physical scuffle, there is plenty of opportunity for either side to get scared and start shooting, when both sides are already in close quarters. This is how peaceful protests become massacres - the police turn a confrontation physical, an officer gets spooked in the melee and starts shooting, everyone else hears gunshots and starts shooting as well, and bam. 
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I've been gone for a few days. Has the government carpet-bombed these assholes yet?
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I'm guessing the 10k bond was just on the federal probation violation. When you're PC arrested (like this dude was) for a felony offense, there isn't a set bail. You're brought before a judge the next day who sets your bail based on the charge, your history, your incentive and likelihood to flee, etc. That would, incidentally explain why the other driver of the other vehicle wasn't arrested. The Pigly-Wigly isn't Base. If a cop sees the guy driving a stolen truck, he's got good PC for the arrest. If he sees the other guy in the supermarket where the truck is parked, he doesn't. Yet. So he take some pictures, gets some witness statements, pulls the parking lot security feed and takes it to a judge for a warrant. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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enraged_camel posted:I've been gone for a few days. Has the government carpet-bombed these assholes yet? They arrested one for driving around in a truck he stole from the refuge who had been banned from "occupying federal lands" but he's out now. So we're obviously well on our way to Waco 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Bears have been delivered, signed for by "M. EMRY."
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https://twitter.com/Patztense/status/688177155402928128 Stupid chucklefucks taking down cameras that are there to study wildlife because they think the Feds are spying on them with them. This place is going to be such a mess by the end of things.
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enraged_camel posted:Just bill them for all the damage they are causing. Yes, of which, "theft of services" is a legit claim re: electricity. Intel&Sebastian posted:I don't buy the idea that its impossible for the FBI of all people to cut power to one remote set of buildings without affecting people 30 miles away but whatever. I think you're making valid points for the most part in this thread. But I want to address this by quoting myself from earlier: highme posted:From what I can see, it's a legit claim. Basically, the wildlife refuge is not remote enough to be on an isolated distribution line. To my eye, with the obvious possibility that things have changed and I'm wrong, the service to that location is provided via a major trunk line. Additionally, the electric utility for that area is a small co-op, meaning they have very little in the way of margin above their rates and aren't likely to send their union linesman out to disconnect service to a location with a high probability of gunfire. highme fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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kartikeya posted:https://twitter.com/Patztense/status/688177155402928128 If only he would have fallen.
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I'm a little confused at what happened regarding the recent arrest. - There were two people in the fed's truck/van but only the passenger got arrested? - The driver didn't get arrested because he wasn't actually driving and was inside the store when the arrest was made, so he got off on a technicality? - The guy who got arrested wasn't even really arrested for being part of the militia but because he violet probation on a previous unrelated offense? - Even if the driver got off because he wasn't technically driving the vehicle at the time, wouldn't waiting for him to come back prove that he WAS driving it in the first place? - Even if they didn't do the above, wouldn't a few pictures or something of the guy getting in the van have done the job? - Did the guys who arrested the one dude follow the truck into the grocery store parking lot, or did they just happen to bump into each other?
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Someone should send them one of those sex toys that's just like a headless, limbless torso I want the post-occupation articles about these people to be as weird as possible
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Iowa Snow King posted:Someone should send them one of those sex toys that's just like a headless, limbless torso This is good Do we know if they ever got the lube?
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Wanamingo posted:This is good Probably going to take awhile. Someone wisely pointed out that it isn't a Amazon Prime item. So expect a week or so for delivery.
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Crain posted:Probably going to take awhile. Since they have internet access and are desperate for attention we can rest assured they already know lube is inbound. They know, and are excited.
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I think M. EMRY is Michael Emry, some carpetbagger bloghound from Idaho who thinks he's the next Alex Jones. I'm hoping they aren't just shitcanning all amazon boxes. They're too desperate to reasonably do so but lol reasonably.
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Mr Interweb posted:I'm a little confused at what happened regarding the recent arrest. My understanding was: Two guys go to town, 1 in truck and the other in a van. Cops arrest one guy sitting in a vehicle, the other was inside the store. Cops then tow both vehicles. Guy they arrested was already on probation that was basically "don't do the exact thing you went and did in Oregon" so with any luck they're going away for awhile.
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Who What Now posted:Then shoot them. Typically it doesn't go well for agencies that engage in extrajudicial killings of protesters engaging in civil disobedience. Failing to cooperate with an arrest isn't a death penalty crime. Iowa Snow King posted:Someone should send them one of those sex toys that's just like a headless, limbless torso I don't understand why so many people are wasting their money to send these guys garbage. Buy a decent dinner or something, it'll last longer than the three seconds of mild annoyance they might experience before they chuck it in the trash.
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Long interview with Brandon Curtiss, who is continuing to insert himself between the main occupiers and Main Paineframe posted:I don't understand why so many people are wasting their money to send these guys garbage. Buy a decent dinner or something, it'll last longer than the three seconds of mild annoyance they might experience before they chuck it in the trash. What we should be doing is shipping guns to the birdwatcher counter-protesters. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Main Paineframe posted:I don't understand why so many people are wasting their money to send these guys garbage. Buy a decent dinner or something, it'll last longer than the three seconds of mild annoyance they might experience before they chuck it in the trash. The video of Ritzheimer throwing the dildo and everything to the floor in a temper tantrum will last forever. Clearly the better investment.
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Who What Now posted:Then shoot them. I'm also a fan of bear mace.
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Roland Jones posted:The video of Ritzheimer throwing the dildo and everything to the floor in a temper tantrum will last forever. Clearly the better investment.  he was a loving hair's breadth from losing his poo poo.
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Main Paineframe posted:I don't understand why so many people are wasting their money to send these guys garbage. Buy a decent dinner or something, it'll last longer than the three seconds of mild annoyance they might experience before they chuck it in the trash. It's the thought that counts?
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Main Paineframe posted:Typically it doesn't go well for agencies that engage in extrajudicial killings of protesters engaging in civil disobedience. Failing to cooperate with an arrest isn't a death penalty crime. Pulling a weapon on an officer attempting an arrest is grounds for lethal force.
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