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Statement by Khamenei on the attempts to appeal the Guardian Council rulings on the 99% of reformist and moderate candidates who were banned from the elections. The speaker of parliament, Ali Larijani, and Rouhani have protested against it by citing the Supreme Leaders wish for "open and lively elections." We're something like halfway through the 20 day window in which candidates can appeal the ruling. https://twitter.com/abasinfo/status/689750723857367040 https://twitter.com/abasinfo/status/689760208780918784 
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Liberal_L33t posted:These are the people who have been aupporting ISIS though. Even if they weren't actually picking up a gun and fighting for ISIS, anyone who collaborated with them deserves to be made an example of. Don't be like that. They lived there, they hardly voted to invite ISIS there. Not to mention the innocent children who will die homeless thanks to some genocidal Peshmerga dicks.
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Look, it's pretty simple. ISIS would have killed them if they didn't cooperate. So anyone still alive in ISIS territory must be cooperating with them, and thus needs to die. It sounds harsh, but it's the only way to stop ISIS and those who work with them from harming innocent people.
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Angry Salami posted:Look, it's pretty simple. ISIS would have killed them if they didn't cooperate. So anyone still alive in ISIS territory must be cooperating with them, and thus needs to die. It sounds harsh, but it's the only way to stop ISIS and those who work with them from harming innocent people. It's a tough chocie but I'm glad the peshmerga are bad enough to make it.
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Angry Salami posted:Look, it's pretty simple. ISIS would have killed them if they didn't cooperate. So anyone still alive in ISIS territory must be cooperating with them, and thus needs to die. It sounds harsh, but it's the only way to stop ISIS and those who work with them from harming innocent people. Lol you'd be in the streets chanting for kuffar blood within 5 minutes of ISIS showing up in your town.
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Angry Salami posted:Look, it's pretty simple. ISIS would have killed them if they didn't cooperate. So anyone still alive in ISIS territory must be cooperating with them, and thus needs to die. It sounds harsh, but it's the only way to stop ISIS and those who work with them from harming innocent people. A horde of barbarians invests your town you either get with the program or get dead real fast.
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Angry Salami posted:Look, it's pretty simple.
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Toplowtech posted:I am pretty sure the middle east is in its current state because faaaaaaar too many people started their arguments with "look it's pretty simple". Tbf it's always a relief when that phrase is not followed by a call for mispelled nuclear dehumanification.
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Volkerball posted:Lol you'd be in the streets chanting for kuffar blood within 5 minutes of ISIS showing up in your town. Toplowtech posted:I am pretty sure the middle east is in its current state because faaaaaaar too many people started their arguments with "look it's pretty simple". 
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Every human who does not fight daily to end killing is a complicit in murder. Kill all humans, it's the only just solution.
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mlmp08 posted:Every human who does not fight daily to end killing is a complicit in murder. Kill all humans, it's the only just solution. Now this I can get behind.
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ComradeKane posted:So, to be clear, the Russians are now legitimately also bombing the Islamic State, and their intervention on behalf of Assad is actually working in at least a modest sense? The supposed collaboration between Assad and ISIS has been overstated somewhat by some people in this thread, the front lines between them have always been active, and often intensive. There has always been fierce fighting around Deir Ezzor (It is looking grim for the SAA - and lets face it, the civilians - in that city, unless they can push ISIS back with RUAF help), and currently the SAA are advancing East/North from Aleppo and getting close to the ISIS stronghold of Al-Bab, and there is ongoing back and forth between ISIS and the SAA near Palmyra. Certainly though, the SAA is going to concentrate any freely available forces on defending Latakia and Damascus, rather than putting together an expeditionary force to retake Palmyra. Alas.
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mlmp08 posted:Every human who does not fight daily to end killing is a complicit in murder. Kill all humans, it's the only just solution. 
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Angry Salami posted:Look, it's pretty simple. ISIS would have killed them if they didn't cooperate. So anyone still alive in ISIS territory must be cooperating with them, and thus needs to die. It sounds harsh, but it's the only way to stop ISIS and those who work with them from harming innocent people. "Kill them all and let God sort them out; it's the only way to stop them!" isn't any more moral when we do it. Do their commanders, foreign fighters who travel to Iraq and Syria to be a part of the group, and people involved in human trafficking and other atrocities deserve to die? Absolutely, and they are. But can you say the same about some scared 15 year old from the Sheitat tribe who just saw a few hundred of his clansmen get massacred and "joins" to avoid a similar fate?
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suboptimal posted:"Kill them all and let God sort them out; it's the only way to stop them!" isn't any more moral when we do it. Do their commanders, foreign fighters who travel to Iraq and Syria to be a part of the group, and people involved in human trafficking and other atrocities deserve to die? Absolutely, and they are. But can you say the same about some scared 15 year old from the Sheitat tribe who just saw a few hundred of his clansmen get massacred and "joins" to avoid a similar fate? Poster's not serious.
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Volkerball posted:I'm not convinced. This thread has no bottom. It's pretty clearly satire to me. Anyway, any further news on Jarabalus?
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ComradeKane posted:So, to be clear, the Russians are now legitimately also bombing the Islamic State, and their intervention on behalf of Assad is actually working in at least a modest sense? Either because of fighting with SDF, a change in Saudi policy the outcome of which is yet to be seen, or just a trickle until peace talks definitely fail. It's unclear, but some new Czech weapons appeared in Latakia last week so the supply line is still intact.
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Looks like a successful suicide bomb of some sort at or near the Russian embassy in Kabul.
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An Amnesty International report alleging that the Iraqi Kurds have been leveling arab villages landed yesterday Summary Full Report From a purely strategic point of view, it looks like the Kurds are building up a buffer around their territory.
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ISIS captured a SA-6 anti air launcher in the Deir Ezzor arms depot.
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ComradeKane posted:So, to be clear, the Russians are now legitimately also bombing the Islamic State, and their intervention on behalf of Assad is actually working in at least a modest sense? Based on this latest dispatch from the Southern Front, rumors of the TOW program's demise seem to have been greatly exaggerated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLO4IFFbFEI TOWs start showing up at 2:40. There's gonna be a lot of crispy SAA tanks.
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So ISIS captured a SAM in Deir Ezzor today. https://twitter.com/DeirEzzor24/status/689783908385292289 https://twitter.com/DeirEzzor24/status/689775512013688833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub
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Haystack posted:An Amnesty International report alleging that the Iraqi Kurds have been leveling arab villages landed yesterday They are 100%, and basically creating a line in the sand of their territory, and will eventually vote for an independent state of Kurdistan as long as their economy doesn't totally crash which is where it is heading. There is a very real risk that Kirkuk and Diyala there will be territory disputes between Peshmerga and ISF/Hashd al-Shabi. Also in Kurdistan protests have started again over the no governmental pay in certain sectors for 4-5 months now and proposition of cutting government pays in half, as well as high unemployment. Also; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/takes-control-rmeilan-airfield-syria-160119141331681.html quote:US 'takes control' of Rmeilan airfield in Syria
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Flavahbeast posted:according to reddit it's "probably not in working order" New thread title: Middle East: According to Reddit it's "probably not in working order"
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Lascivious Sloth posted:They are 100%, and basically creating a line in the sand of their territory, and will eventually vote for an independent state of Kurdistan as long as their economy doesn't totally crash which is where it is heading. There is a very real risk that Kirkuk and Diyala there will be territory disputes between Peshmerga and ISF/Hashd al-Shabi. Tell me more about why their economy is going to crash. Low price of oil?
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Flavahbeast posted:according to reddit it's "probably not in working order" but we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if it's been bombed already, I'm sure it's a priority target TildeATH posted:New thread title: Lascivious Sloth posted:They are 100%, and basically creating a line in the sand of their territory, and will eventually vote for an independent state of Kurdistan as long as their economy doesn't totally crash which is where it is heading. There is a very real risk that Kirkuk and Diyala there will be territory disputes between Peshmerga and ISF/Hashd al-Shabi. quote:"Under a deal with the YPG, the US was given control of the airport. The purpose of this deal is to back up the SDF, by providing weapons and an airbase for US warplanes," Taj Kordsh, a media activist from the SDF told Al Jazeera on Tuesday. Probably related: https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/566513-russia-considering-airbase-in-syrias-qamishli-monitor quote:Russia has reportedly been studying the feasibility of converting the civilian international airport in northeast Syria into an airbase for its expanding aerial operations on behalf of the Bashar al-Assad regime.
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fade5 posted:I still remain astounded that r/ Syrian Civil War is as good for news/analysis as it is. Most images I reversed searched of "starvation in Madaya" was old and from other places, while others could be real. I don't say there wasn't large scale starvation there, but when "activists" become blatant lying propagandists somethings wrong and you're damaging the cause you supposedly try to advocate.[+30] Assad is the last person to start using chemicals. The fact that there is an attack ONE DAY after UN inspectors arrive smells.. It smells really really bad. We can't say who did it. Assad will deny everything and the rebels will say Assad did it. But there have been cases where the rebels kill civilians and their own men to get some shots of people dying just to get the western opinion on their side. Russia on one end and the US and EU on the other side is very dangerous. All in all I think Assad has nothing to do with this particular attack and I feel this is a very very dirty and low action from the rebels to get the western world on their side..[+50] great discussion on r/syriancivilwar ass struggle fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Angry Salami posted:Look, it's pretty simple. ISIS would have killed them if they didn't cooperate. So anyone still alive in ISIS territory must be cooperating with them, and thus needs to die. It sounds harsh, but it's the only way to stop ISIS and those who work with them from harming innocent people. ISIL will kill them if they don't cooperate, so its their duty to prevent ISILites from killing them by killing ISILites themselves.
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Count Roland posted:Tell me more about why their economy is going to crash. Low price of oil? The economy of the KRG has not been in good shape since relations with the central government over the budget broke down and they stopped receiving their share of federal funds. They tried plugging the gap purely with oil sales (enraging Baghdad even more) but even before the oil prices slumped they where struggling to cover their costs, a lot of people are on the KRG's payroll and maintaining government employees salaries costs over a billion every 2 months. Now oil has gone way south and they still have a war to try to fund, as well as a lot of refugees to deal with which naturally puts even more strain on the domestic economy, so things are looking very bad. Also, not to help matters, they owe a lot of money - not least of all to the oil companies operating in the KRG who have not received their share of the profits and have been threatening to slash production in protest Turkey gave them a half a billion loan a while back but they burned through that pretty fast. Now massive departmental budgets cuts are kicking in and they are trying to half public employees salaries to try to stem the bleeding, which isn't going down very well.
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sparatuvs posted:Most images I reversed searched of "starvation in Madaya" was old and from other places, while others could be real. The first one is definitely loaded term-wise, but re-use of images/videos with a new title is incredibly common and should be noted when it happens. Sadly, conspiracies about the Ghouta chemical attacks are common everywhere that's even tangentially related to Syria and the war; the conspiracies are rather depressing, but not unexpected since it proves Assad's hosed up enough to used chemical weapons and makes defending him nigh-impossible.
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Torpor posted:Amnesty International's apparent indifference to issues with other Islamic extremist faction crimes while focusing on the Kurds seems kind of strange. Well go on then! Which other extremist islamic factions is Amnesty indifferent towards?
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Friendly Tumour posted:Well go on then! Which other extremist islamic factions is Amnesty indifferent towards? Hamas and Hezbollah, to start.
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