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I'm watching this recorded Santelli video and its absurd. Santelli is freaking out yelling "No one has to die! Calm down FBI! Its time to go! Its over!" Like, what the hell did you think you were doing here? How did you expect this poo poo to end? If anything shows what full of poo poo cowards these guys are its this video. I mean, I'm glad they're not actual martyrs who would take lives for it but gently caress, man. "We got arrested and the crazy guy who said he'd never be taken alive is dead!" Ummm... did you just arrive here? "There's kids up there!" Yeah, you put them there.
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fsif posted:I hate those goofball chucklefucks and their moronic fake cause as much as anyone, but the police report saying they shot first deserves as much scrutiny as we would extend to a black man shot dead in Harlem. Seems very premature to be so cavalier about an incredibly tragic incident. There's a certain amount of truth to this but, on the other hand, unlike Tamir Rice or Trayvon Martin, these guys were armed and had publicly stated they would violently resist arrest. There deserves to be a review etc. and I hope the entire arrest was filmed from multiple angles, but for internet purposes we can probably make some safe guesses as to what happened.
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Apoplexy posted:Every single one of these militants deserve to be loving executed, no trial. Just shot point-blank in the loving head after they're captured, surrender or no. http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=34358
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James Woods posted:I can't help but think that the police wouldn't have handled him quite so gently after making death threats and resisting arrest if he was bla... Ugh gently caress it. IMO they were very gentle with him because he was 1) initially respectful 2) identified as a vet and 3) obviously disturbed. There's been a major push among law enforcement in Oregon to better handle veterans in crisis. You can tell the officer had had some training as he kept cool and was responding with a very non-committal "i can respect that" or "I can understand that. Oregon has a ton of veterans. And we have a ton of unstable ones who basically hole up out in the middle of nowhere and threaten to shoot anyone who goes onto their property, police or otherwise. How to deal with them and get them services has been a big (albeit relatively quiet) focus of LEOs here over the last 5-10 years. You're likely right that it would have gone a bit differently if he was non-white, but IMO the main factor in why that went so gently at first was that he self-identified as a veteran and that he started off respectfully.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:My god haha
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fsif posted:I hate those goofball chucklefucks and their moronic fake cause as much as anyone, but the police report saying they shot first deserves as much scrutiny as we would extend to a black man shot dead in Harlem. Seems very premature to be so cavalier about an incredibly tragic incident. Unironically this Still want to see more visual/audio expressions of fear and cowardice among those at the ranch and quality meme production at this crucial point in time to defame the faux manhood of all involved
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These are also not dipshit yokel local cops. The FBI doesn't gently caress around.
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Teddybear posted:Does Oregon have a felony murder rule? I don't think the Feds have one, but depending on Oregon's statutes they may all be guilty of bringing about the guy's death. Yes, it does, for an enumerated list of felonies. http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.115 When it is committed by a person, acting either alone or with one or more persons, who commits or attempts to commit any of the following crimes and in the course of and in furtherance of the crime the person is committing or attempting to commit, or during the immediate flight therefrom, the person, or another participant if there be any, causes the death of a person other than one of the participants: (A) Arson in the first degree as defined in ORS 164.325 (Arson in the first degree); (B) Criminal mischief in the first degree by means of an explosive as defined in ORS 164.365 (Criminal mischief in the first degree); (C) Burglary in the first degree as defined in ORS 164.225 (Burglary in the first degree); (D) Escape in the first degree as defined in ORS 162.165 (Escape in the first degree); (E) Kidnapping in the second degree as defined in ORS 163.225 (Kidnapping in the second degree); (F) Kidnapping in the first degree as defined in ORS 163.235 (Kidnapping in the first degree); (G) Robbery in the first degree as defined in ORS 164.415 (Robbery in the first degree); (H) Any felony sexual offense in the first degree defined in this chapter; (I) Compelling prostitution as defined in ORS 167.017 (Compelling prostitution); or (J) Assault in the first degree, as defined in ORS 163.185 (Assault in the first degree), and the victim is under 14 years of age, or assault in the second degree, as defined in ORS 163.175 (Assault in the second degree) (1)(a) or (b), and the victim is under 14 years of age; or
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i will laugh a deep, hearty laugh if all the same shitheads who argued forever about how Mike Brown deserved it will now suddenly turn 180 degrees on their stance concerning police brutality.
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atomicthumbs posted:I think they should go to Jail controversial
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The live stream chat is blowing up about WHO IS THE SPY WHO SOLD AMMON OUT. These guys really don't think the Feds have access to the internet, do they?
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It's cute but lets not try to turn this into a question about police ethics when it's literally a domestic terrorist group trying to engage militarily with a domestic peace keeping force. This isn't the same thing.
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UV_Catastrophe posted:i will laugh a deep, hearty laugh if all the same shitheads who argued forever about how Mike Brown deserved it will now suddenly turn 180 degrees on their stance concerning police brutality. Come on by the Freep thread and check 'em out!
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I want them to have a televised trial, and I want the dildos presented as evidence.
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fsif posted:I hate those goofball chucklefucks and their moronic fake cause as much as anyone, but the police report saying they shot first deserves as much scrutiny as we would extend to a black man shot dead in Harlem. Seems very premature to be so cavalier about an incredibly tragic incident. I'm all for the same level of scrutiny and investigation that I want in all police involved shootings or deaths. But we have some more context here than we usually do so it helps us see a little more of the likely picture. But still, the investigation should be made.
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Apoplexy posted:Every single one of these militants deserve to be loving executed, no trial. Just shot point-blank in the loving head after they're captured, surrender or no. Okay Bashar, we'll get right on that. Also, we'll drop those barrel-bombs on that Tea Party rally while we're at it.
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I'm gonna go ahead and take back what I said about Finicum being straight up executed, that's not funny in any way.
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11 kids he happily described as income
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Prester Jane posted:The FBI is reminding all the militants out there that it can loving end you whenever it drat well feels like it. It's a really good PR move on their part frankly. Let's hope it scares the bajeezus out if everyone at the refugr, because it sounds like the FBI is flat out warning them to amscray before the strike team hits. And it the Fed means loving business this time. As you said, nothing short of reality slapping them in the face could break their delusions.
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fsif posted:I hate those goofball chucklefucks and their moronic fake cause as much as anyone, but the police report saying they shot first deserves as much scrutiny as we would extend to a black man shot dead in Harlem. Seems very premature to be so cavalier about an incredibly tragic incident. Any use of lethal force will be closely scrutinized, as it should be. However, it seems pretty safe to give the initial benefit of the doubt to law enforcement on this one.
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Can someone link me the Santelli stream?
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It's unfortunate that one of these wackjobs had to die to end this. Their family shouldn't have had to suffer because of their idiocy. That said, good to see authorities do something finally.
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Jacobin posted:Can someone link me the Santelli stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVWykMKiOjU
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Jacobin posted:Can someone link me the Santelli stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVWykMKiOjU
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Man, sorta sad to hear that it was Tarp Man that bit the dust. He was probably the least worst person in the the militia. 
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So if I'm not mistaken the guy killed was tarp man correct?
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Yes, it does, for an enumerated list of felonies. http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.115 So probably not, considering it was a fellow participant who died-- as far as we know right now.
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Yes, it does, for an enumerated list of felonies. http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.115 other than one of the participants
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Abner Cadaver II posted:Come on by the Freep thread and check 'em out! http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3389025/posts KEYWORDS: bundy, ambush
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Lycus posted:I want them to have a televised trial, and I want the dildos presented as evidence.  Back.. and to the left... back, and to the left...
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Now I'm up to the part where Pete is freaking out because "Blaine" is apparently going to go Suicide by Cop or something. Who the gently caress did Pete think he was living with the last month? Did he listen to ANY of the poo poo said on his youtube account?
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As someone who has family in the BLM the Bundy's and their whisis can burn in hell.
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I see Wikipedia has been updated to reflect the tragedy
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Venom Snake posted:They have literally gone on the record as saying they would rather die than go to jail so the feds did them a favor imo VS, I know you're mad about this and I am too, but the loss of life is always sad. Is this as outrageous as Brown, Garner, Rice, etc? Probably not, but its still sad
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Lycus posted:I want them to have a televised trial, and I want the dildos presented as evidence. Agreed.
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KiteAuraan posted:Okay Bashar, we'll get right on that. Also, we'll drop those barrel-bombs on that Tea Party rally while we're at it. insh'allah
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Lycus posted:I want them to have a televised trial, and I want the dildos presented as evidence. If the rubber dong doesn't fit, at least it was hilarious to try.
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Gum posted:other than one of the participants Correct. It's a more restrictive felony murder rule than what exists in some other jurisdictions. Between that and the short enumerated felony list it shouldn't be applicable.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FF2fBRKxtk You know someone should send this to Cliven Bundy.
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