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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Lieutenant Cocker must have a giant ... well... Service caliber.
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1st AD posted:Holy poo poo I was not expecting that! When you watch these assholes they just make their situation so much worse and then blame the cops for being cruel to them. It certainly wasn't any of them being assholes
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Epic High Five posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCozh_vbYdM  Lieutenant Cocker stopped fuckin around real fast.
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Epic High Five posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCozh_vbYdM That first officer for President.
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I feel so bad for this dude.  He started off jovial. Crackin' a joke. Then the joke turned real. He really is gettin' too old for Nose Ring's poo poo. e: wow that image was bigger than I thought.
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Jan 28, 2016 09:48
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I feel so bad for this dude. Yeah that was the one that was silliest to me. Unless he's got a truck full of illegals he just talked himself out of a quick inspection and couple jokes with the officer and into getting beat the hell up on the side of the road. It's a nice day right? Step out and while people are rummaging around looking for whatever get some stories out of him. The sovcit looks so in over his head the whole time too it's glorious, like a border agent is going to be totally ignorant of inspection law
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Epic High Five posted:Yeah that was the one that was silliest to me. Unless he's got a truck full of illegals he just talked himself out of a quick inspection and couple jokes with the officer and into getting beat the hell up on the side of the road. It's a nice day right? Step out and while people are rummaging around looking for whatever get some stories out of him. The sovcit looks so in over his head the whole time too it's glorious, like a border agent is going to be totally ignorant of inspection law And he TOTALLY lost his job over that, too.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:If they go to court and then claim they don't recognize the court because of that gold fringe thing, I think a fair case will be made for an insanity plea. They do, they're just convinced if they LARP hard enough that they'll be able to collapse society.
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I think the takeaway from this is that there's a ton of stupid shithead spergs out there with ONE COOL TRICK to own police and there's a really small percentage of them that are gun-toting milsurp retards. Which admittedly sucks for the rest of American society.
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The court should just go borrow some non-fringed flags, just to gently caress with these clowns.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I feel so bad for this dude.  "I'm gonna have to smash this window" "this isn't even my truck."I feel bad for the kid in that marijuana car but seriously lol "You are under arrest!" "I do not consent!" "He doesn't consent!" "Call the police!" "We are the police!" yeah okay. And then looking at the comments, all the sovcits are coming out to defend their fellow idiots.Visual evidence of law enforcement reaction to their magic legal spells still doesn't deter them.I don't even 
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Jan 28, 2016 10:07
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SlipUp posted:I feel bad for the kid in that marijuana car but seriously lol I felt a little bad for him right up until the kid crying. Like man, you're gonna (Apparently) light up and then do this bullshit all with your child in the car?
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Yardbomb posted:I felt a little bad for him right up until the kid crying. Like man, you're gonna (Apparently) light up and then do this bullshit all with your child in the car? I did notice that mom only gave a poo poo about the kid after dad got arrested, so the rest of the family probably has some semblance of a chance.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7KRZQXdDac So the other guy who left earlier did not get charged with anything. We've defied at least 2 deadlines to leave, but now they won't they let us leave without charges?  They are set on having their cake and eating it too. We want to break the law just like the other guys, but we want to get away with it.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7KRZQXdDac That guy has been posting videos for 36 hours straight. Assuming he wasn't going full nocturnal, he probably hasn't slept in two days. I'm amazed he's still posting, but from the slurring in that video, probably not for long.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:That guy has been posting videos for 36 hours straight. Assuming he wasn't going full nocturnal, he probably hasn't slept in two days. I'm amazed he's still posting, but from the slurring in that video, probably not for long. It seemed like only a couple of them were awake, so they're probably sleeping in shifts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALPs_n0WQaY If you're still here and not sure what a Sovereign Citizen is, this video does a good job. EDIT: This video needs more of a set up. It's a training guide for dealing with the SovCit movement, produced by Florida. It contains actual scenes of people being gunned down. Jonas Albrecht fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Jonas Albrecht posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALPs_n0WQaY okay I already knew about sov citizens but when they got to the part about "strawmen" I just went 
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:okay I already knew about sov citizens but when they got to the part about "strawmen" I just went Oh yeah, that "Fictional You" poo poo is weird.
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It's amazing how many people get suckered into SovCit stuff. What really blows my mind is imagining how much money people make hucking this horseshit to dumb assholes who feel like they've found the silver bullet against their crappy lives. I want to believe that some of the people shilling SovCit stuff don't really believe it and are just cashing in on it but that might just be a defense mechanism. 
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Jonas Albrecht posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALPs_n0WQaY Just got to the strawman bit too, and ... I really hate to post the same words in multiple threads because it makes me look like an idiot, but ... I... What?
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It's what SovCits actually believe. Ugh okay. So the story goes that in this world you exist as a legal entity. If you do enough voodoo, you can basically split yourself away from your legal entity, becoming a "free man". You can then forward all your fees and charges onto the legal entity, but you yourself would be debt free. There is also some dumb bullshit about everyone having a secret back account which only sovcits can access. This account has nigh-infinite wealth, yet the sovcit gurus only encourage its use to pay off poo poo like alimony. Wonder why. why do I know this
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I feel so bad for this dude. The way that cop acted through the whole thing you could just read his frustration. "gently caress! Here we go again. Goddamn why can't i just shoot him? An investigation and a desk job for a few years would be worth it." SlipUp posted:
HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! I DO NOT CONSENT! I DO NOT CONSENT! I DO NOT CONSENT! I DO NOT CONSENT! I DO NOT CONSENT! HELP ME! HELP ME! HELP ME! HELP ME! HELP ME! sounded like the old liberal hippie stereotype from the 90's SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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SSNeoman posted:why do I know this Because you know too much. They're coming for you next. SocketWrench posted:The way that cop acted through the whole thing you could just read his frustration. "gently caress! Here we go again. Goddamn why can't i just shoot him? An investigation and a desk job for a few years would be worth it." "Just rip that god-damned nose ring right outta there."
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Hey now, people who only link how to deal with Sovereign Citizens are only telling you part of the story! You need to know your rights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBougV1JK4 Edit: This is a sketch from With Bob and David, the spiritual successor to Mr. Show With Bob and David. The people who made the crazy right wing secessionist sketches from earlier. RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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BlackIronHeart posted:It's amazing how many people get suckered into SovCit stuff. What really blows my mind is imagining how much money people make hucking this horseshit to dumb assholes who feel like they've found the silver bullet against their crappy lives. I want to believe that some of the people shilling SovCit stuff don't really believe it and are just cashing in on it but that might just be a defense mechanism. Well, some of it really does sound tempting. I almost did years ago because my mailman at the time was one and we used to chat in the hallway when i was home. He'd go on about how taxes aren't legal "because the Constitution says...". "You don't have to agree to income tax because it wasn't agreed and voted on by all the states. There's this form you can get where you can exempt yourself". He was like a real life version of a "This simple trick" ad back before they were a thing
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SocketWrench posted:Well, some of it really does sound tempting. I almost did years ago because my mailman at the time was one and we used to chat in the hallway when i was home. He'd go on about how taxes aren't legal "because the Constitution says...". "You don't have to agree to income tax because it wasn't agreed and voted on by all the states. There's this form you can get where you can exempt yourself". Wait your USPS mail carrier was a sovereign citizen? The level of cognitive dissonance to enable that sort of life is just kinda admirable.
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A solution to the conflict is to build a wall around the building and put "federal jail" in the door of the wall. They are already in federal land. As for the reaction of this thread to the occupation, you guys are piling on them, piling a lot of hate. Many of you must consider how much of this hate is pure groupthink and mob mentality. Is very, very easy to mock these guys in this thread, and hard, very hard, to defend them (I am not defending them). I personally hate mob mentality.
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SocketWrench posted:Well, some of it really does sound tempting. I almost did years ago because my mailman at the time was one and we used to chat in the hallway when i was home. He'd go on about how taxes aren't legal "because the Constitution says...". "You don't have to agree to income tax because it wasn't agreed and voted on by all the states. There's this form you can get where you can exempt yourself". You know, as much as I dislike old adages: If it sounds too good to be true ... yeah don't be a moron.
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Tei posted:A solution to the conflict is to build a wall around the building and put "federal jail" in the door of the wall. They are already in federal land. Emphasis mine. I'm no public defender, I do not have an obligation to defend them. While it may be the easy way out, we've been watching these people commit crimes for weeks. Yes, they are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. However, they have been spoonfeeding us evidence of their guilt this whole time. As for the making fun of them and whatnot ... I think it might be a defense mechanism. How do we deal with people like these? It would be great if we could have a conversation about it. But ... I don't think there is a way to deal with people like these. I have a crazy coworker. As I heard Dumbass David spout his crazy BS yesterday in the wee hours, I heard a lot of her in there, and that kinda scared me. I have had many, many conversations with this otherwise smart lady about these things, and from what I've seen: there is no reasoning with them. They will continue to believe whatever the hell they want to believe no matter what we or anyone else will say. So maybe we are retreating a little bit behind our dark humor. I'm not sure what else we're supposed to do.
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SocketWrench posted:Well, some of it really does sound tempting. I almost did years ago because my mailman at the time was one and we used to chat in the hallway when i was home. He'd go on about how taxes aren't legal "because the Constitution says...". "You don't have to agree to income tax because it wasn't agreed and voted on by all the states. There's this form you can get where you can exempt yourself". Oh no, I totally see how the con works and how people would throw themselves into it. That's the really sinister part of it all; it's something people would cling to because poo poo hasn't gone their way or they've made some big mistakes and are desperate for a way out. They're being sold total bupkis to deal with the legal system and they're going to get horrendously hosed for it 100% of the time.
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I've always felt that SovCits have the same motivations as people who claim to have psychic powers or are Indigo Children or whatever. It's a self gratifying way of feeling powerful. There's is just a little less personal, ongoing 24/7 LARP than most.
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Bastard Tetris posted:Wait your USPS mail carrier was a sovereign citizen? The level of cognitive dissonance to enable that sort of life is just kinda admirable. C'mon, you didn't notice through all this how many of these fuckers lived off federal money in some way, whether Bundy's loans or Tarpman's foster kids? Rodenthar Drothman posted:Edit: killed in favor of better post that was apparently lagging. It charged at the poster? Rodenthar Drothman posted:
I would actually think it's how this whole thing kicked off that got that reaction. If they'd stormed the place and were prepared or even killed some people the mocking wouldn't exist in such a massive amount. But since these chucklefucks have been a three ring circus of stupidity from the very get go.... SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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twistedmentat posted:Oh yea, as was said, this is the best part. Patriots have built up this fantasy about how the Military is made up of people who just hate the civilian leaders they are forced to serve under. If they would just be allowed to do things their way, the world would be safe because we're AMERICA and we can do anything if we put enough boots on the group and nukes in the air for Freedom. Why would a bunch of people in the military, an incredibly diverse organization filled with the kinds of people they hate, including people who have not yet become citizens, help a bunch of racist wingnuts? Its like they don't actually know poo poo about the military, even a white supremacy sympathizer would realize in boot that his worldview won't fly because the military isn't like 80% white christians anymore and hasn't been for a long time.
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The strawman thing is great, I've seen it used as a justification for child abuse! You see, the kids are not "their" kids, they're their strawman's kids, so "they" have no obligation to take care of them! 
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I think it would be kind of fun to be the appointed defender for these guys. The things they're going to say! I seriously think crossing the FBI agents at the trial would be hilarious. You let deliveries go into the compound? You checked the contents of those deliveries? You wanted to make sure they weren't guns, bombs, or ammunition? Instead they were dildos? Lots of dildos? And lubricant? Pass the witness.
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