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Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009



...what in the gently caress?

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Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Fix posted:

Oh god young disillusioned Trump voters are going to be the best things ever.

He had a better result than McCain or Romney. Iowa sooo easy to remain disillusioned. NH is first way to break the spell. Good luck.

E: Look around you, didn't read Cardboard's crazy post but mines just a data comparison. Feel free to ignore it but I'd recommend the wiki - McCain's victory required a Huck Shield to take Romney's moderate "Christian" vote, I assume because Romney was otherized for Mormonism.


I posit Trump's victory requires a Cruz Shield to take Rubio's moderare 'Christian" vote, I assume because Rubio will be otherized for Cubanism and, failing that, loving a man in 1990.

Oiled and Ready has issued a correction as of 08:59 on Feb 2, 2016

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015

VirtualStranger posted:

please let the socialist jew become president so I can fill my pool with salty /pol/ tears.

And please, oh Lord, let him chose a transgendered Satan worshipping Stalinist as VP. Amen.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

skaboomizzy posted:

MSNBC is finally ending live coverage just before 2am Eastern.

God I love election season. Nothing more fun to me than just nerding and snarking out about politics.

Would you say that this is your Super Bowl?

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Oiled and Ready posted:

He had a better result than McCain or Romney.

So did Obama.

Oiled and Ready posted:

I posit Trump's victory requires a Cruz Shield to take Rubio's moderare 'Christian" vote, I assume because Rubio will be otherized for Cubanism and, failing that, loving a man in 1990.

I posit most Trump voters won't put any more effort into this election than you put into this post.

Fix has issued a correction as of 09:27 on Feb 2, 2016

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Darth Windu posted:

Would you say that this is your Super Bowl?
In many ways the US Presidential race is my off-year FIFA World Cup.

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Fix posted:

So did Obama.


I posit most Trump voters won't put any more effort into this election than you put into this post.

Hard to tell until NH. Trump underperformed 24% vs 28% expected, so if that holds he still narrowly wins all other early states even if it's just a 3man and the establishment rallies for Marco - who hasn't been hit by Trump in months.

The anger is still there, id bet a lot on "his winner image is ruined!" Being totally wrong.

We did learn his ground game really was a joke, though.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Oiled and Ready posted:

The anger is still there, id bet a lot on "his winner image is ruined!" Being totally wrong.

Yeah, that was a non-starter.

I'd wager more on him trying to do something unexpected and just doing/saying something stupid instead.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Corek posted:

Reminder that Ron Paul actually absconded with all the Iowa votes 4 years ago because of paulites taking over the iowa gop
I guess 2016 didn't top 2012






Gail Wynand posted:

I'm so pissed as the only one at that caucus who was on Bernies side and saw how backwards HC's info was, how all her supporters were supporting her because she's a woman, and how she's basically using Bernie's stance to a much lesser degree only to win voters with universal health care for all and other BS. I almost went down there to sway voters in Bernie's favor. I know my poo poo, and I've studied this race up and down. I would of easily gained a few bernie followers. But I was worried that I would come off overly hostile and I didn't want to be removed from the permises for calling HC supporters sexist, idiotic, misinformed, lying pigs.

Gail Wynand posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/43sexj/cspan_stream_clinton_precinct_chair_lied_about/czko9bf

Unbelievable. What a clusterfuck. P.S. - That woman: "Don't you want to show your daughter a woman can be president?" As a woman I CAN'T STAND this. If you want to vote for Hilary, do so because you agree with her policies, not because she has a vagina. I hate it when women list her sex as a valid reason why she deserves to be the leader of the free world. "Because we've never had one before" is utterly stupid. Why don't we wait for the RIGHT female candidate?

Gail Wynand posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/43sexj/cspan_stream_clinton_precinct_chair_lied_about/czko8ov

Everyone needs to learn about the election fraud taking place in our country. Google it.

a cop posted:

No loving god drat mother loving way Bernie wins.

a cop posted:

CLINTON IS GOING TO loving WIN

a cop posted:

Lol at anyone who had hope for Sanders.

a cop posted:

Why? Hillary is guaranteed to win.
Hahaha

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



lol forever if Clinton gets the most delegates in Iowa by virtue of winning 5 out of 5 coin flips

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Chamale posted:

lol forever if Clinton gets the most delegates in Iowa by virtue of winning 5 out of 5 coin flips

Look, the money chose Hillary.

Gravy Train Robber
Sep 15, 2007

by zen death robot

Neeksy posted:

Look, the money chose Hillary.

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



I'm just happy Iowa is irrelevant for another 4 years

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Neeksy posted:

Look, the money chose Hillary.

:eyepop:

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

One positive about this is you can tell just from reactions on Facebook this morning that this is the first time many people paid attention to the Iowa caucuses. "Hillary won 6 coin tosses? Yeah right!" and other reactions are pretty fun. People forget in 2012 that eventually all three of the top Republican candidates "won" the Iowa caucus. The shock at how casual Iowans are about choosing a candidate was unknown until now.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

Neeksy posted:

Look, the money chose Hillary.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

Neeksy posted:

Look, the money chose Hillary.

:psyboom:

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:

Neeksy posted:

Look, the money chose Hillary.

:golfclap:

mrs. nicholas sarkozy
Jan 1, 2006

~let me see ya bounce that bounce that~

Neeksy posted:

Look, the money chose Hillary.

:allears:

Welp, time to stagger into work with this hangover. :911:

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



This would have been a contentious vote for a class president never mind our nation's president. I'm not pitchforks about it (Bernie had a great showing) but it does show why the clown shoes caucus approach is really bad!

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Skyl3lazer posted:

This would have been a contentious vote for a class president never mind our nation's president. I'm not pitchforks about it (Bernie had a great showing) but it does show why the clown shoes caucus approach is really bad!

I think you'll find actually that caucuses own and we should replace all primaries with them

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Is Reddit still masturbating over voter fraud?

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:

Logikv9 posted:

Is Reddit still masturbating over voter fraud?

Probably because Reddit but Bernie has already said he's not going to challenge it.

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS

Cardboard Box A posted:

I am one who responds to strong leadership.

I'm not motivated by much. Motivational speakers annoy me, motivational posters make me laugh, and don't even get me started on motivational films.

But a strong leader? A strong, in your face, no bullshit, alpha male? I will get right in line for that and bleed respect from my ears. If you show even a hint of weakness: I'm out.

Trump is this to me: a strong, no bullshit, in your face, alpha male. Is it too much to ask to have a strong leader of this once great nation again? We all know men in this country are the ones exercising the most political importance, so why do they keep picking weak leadership candidates?

Cruz is a soft Canadian whose own daughter doesn't even respect him, Rubio is a gay prostitute spic, Hilary is a mentally-disabled cuck (literally), and Bernie...my God.

Do men no longer have respect for themselves? Have nu-males taken over this country so fiercely that they can only handle leadership that is sensitive to their loving feelings?

Buck the gently caress up America, because we need the real men to take a stand. Trump losing Iowa is a blow, but it isn't the end. Fortified souls in worse positions have persevered. We need your minds clear and your hearts full of desire to ensure we get a strong leader once again in the Oval Office.

Make America Great Again.

MAKE. AMERICA. STRONG. AGAIN.



I feel like poo poo /pol/

I'm 23 and for once in my life I felt like I had hope. I was sleeping fine, wasn't depressed, enjoyed work, got poo poo done, and felt fulfilled. It was because of Trump that I felt like things would be better and that it was a good day most days. I liked Ron Paul and hoped he would win, but knew he had no chance. This time I really felt like things were better with more people now than ever recognizing the degeneracy of society.

Trump had a huge chance, everywhere there was support for him, but it turns out people don't really want Trump as much as I thought. They would rather stick with establishment cronies who will change absolutely loving nothing (Cruz, Rubio, Carson). It really depresses me that for once in my life I had hope that poo poo would change for the better, but nope. Not today. Why the gently caress would a candidate who could actually change things actually win? Trump is the same story as Ron Paul. People don't want things to change for the better or it's all loving rigged, probably the latter.

Call me a defeatist, shill, etc but it sucks rear end to realize if Trump doesn't win it's going to be 8 more years of the same poo poo and worse because beating an incumbent president is near impossible in this day and age.




Any of the republican establishment candidates would be worse than Hillary. Trump, while hilarious and occasionally on point, is a child with no connection to reality and can't be trusted in the oval office. Hillary is pure establishment with a little left-wing dogma mixed in.

There are two candidates who might be an improvement on Hillary. Rand Paul might be slightly less of an establishment lackey, but he's free-trade, low-government all the way so that suits the establishment fine - but at least with him we might get slightly less skeleton bullshit. Bernie would stick it to the establishment economically (assuming he actually does what he says he will), but this sweet medicine comes with a bitter skeleton coating. So, pick your poison.




Don't be demoralised. Be anti-fragile.

Trump is on track: Solid 2nd to the Christian Social Con in Iowa + YUGE lead in New Hampshire = on track to the nomination.

Latest New Hampshire polling:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html

Trump 32%
Cruz 11.5%
Kasich 11.5%
Jeb 10.3%
Rubio 9.5%
Christie 6.5%




Iowa are just a bunch of "MUH JESUS" freaks. Evangelicals are going to be the death of the Republican party because they loving refuse to concede anything.

>HURRRDURRR MUH GAYS MUH ABORTION

Both issues are already solved, and both are just poo poo that turns away moderates. You want Shillary to win? Nominate someone like Cruz, someone who is LITERALLY loving unelectable. He will hold strong on his "MUH SOCIAL-CONSERVATISM" (name one thing they conserved), which will turn away moderate voters over to Shillary.

>B-B-B-BUT WOULDN'T THAT MAKE THE GOP DEMOKEKS-LITE?

No, because you still hold strong on other ideals like not bowing down to stupid liberal movements like BLM or say stupid poo poo like "We must apologize for slavery". You also won't give unlimited gibsmedats and just open the borders like Cruz wants.




I'm with you OP. I really thought poo poo was going to change. I... have been stumped.

I'm going to hold out until New Hampshire but if Trump gets hosed over there, I'm done with /pol/, the internet, and society and going innawoods. The monotonous grind of everyday life is wearing on me, may as well completely change everything.




Holy poo poo calm the gently caress down. Iowa doesn't matter. It's manchildren territory (evangelicals). They have not picked a presidential winner in like 14 years.

NH is the game changer. Relax.




Don't lose hope Brother.
Trump will not succumb to failure.

He wrote the Art of the Deal remember?
"Never give up. Never ever ever give up. If you fail, use that failure to your advantage.
Figure out what you did wrong, where you went wrong, and fix it.
Don't dwell on that failure, because you will never recover from it"




Dont be sad. Cruz cant possibly win the general, and people know that. This an optics loss, but there is real value here. We now have metrics and new dynamics that shake up everything that we can capitalize on. Cruz can fall a lot faster than he could ever, ever win.

This would have been a fun expo to win, but nothing more, really.

Take cheer, friend- the rise of Trump will continue. The stigma of Iowa is past, and the media will have a harder time corraling shills against Trump now that the show piece of 'Iowa first' is over.

Good things are still to come, and where they count for much more than Iowa, I assure you. Be blessed, and stay close. We will make America great again!

or look at it like this. Trump is only 1 delegate behind Cruz, and tied closely in a state Cruz should have dominated.
In the short term this looks bad, long term its positive




No Trump means a way higher chance of a Republican president.

Hillary is an old tired woman, a third term Obama. The GOP nominee is going to have the edge.

Rubio would do great against Clinton. Nate Silver predicted this would happen. Trump was overrated in the polls, while establishment candidate Rubio could very well be the next president.




Don't give up hope. This is a great time to be alive. You have both establishment parties fighting with anti establishment candidates. And that is loving awesome. This is the close fight many of us were wanting with Ron Paul, but they shut him down quick. I have never seen the political arena so robust with it's Citizens all pissed off and ready for a paradigm shift.




Trump barely loses in Iowa and the media is in full shill mode saying he's done for and finished.




Um, CRUZ was always going to win Iowa. Cruz put all his time/money/effort into Iowa. Cruz had the uncontested ground game in IA (IA is all ground game). 98% of the voting precinct captains were pro-Cruz in IA.

IA is meaningless. Trump had 0 ground game there. He didn't even try and came in a close 2nd. Trump will ROLL over the rest of the states, MAYBE end up losing 2-3 total... he'll dominate the nomination at the convention...

Kids on the internet not knowing how primary elections work is sad.




Didn't he lead all the polls? Wasn't he unstumpable? Maybe people thought he looked weak when he couldn't handle a girl?

And how come Bernie got almost half the vote, I thought he was like 20% behind Shillary?

I thought /pol/ was always right?




Reality check: Cruz only won one more delegate than Trump, in a state that picks the biggest Jesus-freak they can.




Crux beat him by 6,300 or so. Rubio is closer to Trump than Trump is to Cruz.
Trump loses Iowa, and his fans proclaim Iowa doesn't mean anything anyways.
If Trump won Iowa, you'd all be celebrating his approaching coronation.

I do agree with you, though. The media claiming he is done are fools, idiots, and generally full of poo poo. A close second in ONE state's primary is NOT anything even approaching defeat. Love him or hate him, he is still going very strong, and only an imbecile would pretend otherwise.




Reagan also didn't win Iowa. In fact, many more eventual republican nominees lost Iowa. The ones who won the general came in close seconds. The closest historical precedent we have is Reagan's. Get ready for a Trump landslide election.




>ATTENTION
daily reminder that Trump has never held ANY political office

daily reminder that Trump has been compared to Hitler numerous times

daily reminder that Trump had ~40x less Superpac support spending behind him

daily reminder that Trump had 1.5x more Superbac opposition spending against him

daily reminder that a petition was drafted, reached 500,000 signatures and DEBATED to ban Trump from England

daily reminder that Trump has suggested banning Muslims, deporting over 10 million Mexicans, and "shutting down some of the Internet"

daily reminder that Trump skipped the most recent debate (which was in this state)

daily reminder that Trump recently misquoted the bible in this state

AFTER ALL OF THIS....
>He is only 3% points behind
>He is merely "1 Jeb" behind

The end?
>The entire country just saw REAL RESULTS
>Trump has just become a legitimate candidate

This....is only the beginning.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN




does anyone else feel like american politics is only about
gun control, pro life pro choice, gay rights??
with rubios magical 13 pt surge right before caucus, when stance on immigration literally decided polls all last year.
and now hillarys win over bernie

i would bet so much money on rubio and hillary in the general
people in america just arent allowed to be anti immigration




I'm going to do something crazy if we have to endure anymore political correctness and Trump is the only man on earth who can stop it short of a revolution (Which is never going to happen, look at the state of Europe)




I didn't say that. I said there's an obvious conflict of interest and it makes zero sense why Microsoft counted those votes. The political tensions are heating up in America. Even if Trump loses there is a huge chance for a revolution coming soon probably within my lifetime. The more people you show corruption the more allies you have




Rubios votes were fake. He's going to be the next president. He's the elite's pick and they're rigging the election.


Dunno if this is a bunch of copypastas from various /pol/ meltdowns or not but if not medication is your friend.

CortezFantastic has issued a correction as of 14:37 on Feb 2, 2016

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Did Hillary release her Universal Health Care plan yet

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

EugeneJ posted:

Did Hillary release her Universal Health Care plan yet

The ACA is UHC, remember? She's supported it all along. HA HA HA! YAAAAS

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

Typical Pubbie posted:

The ACA is UHC, remember? She's supported it all along. HA HA HA! YAAAAS

Lol she'll get everyone on it by just increasing the fine

Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011
can somebody summarize what happened in the last 8 hours so I dont have to go through 70 pages of tviv

there are still MOM people out? didn't they have to decide on sanders or clinton since theyre under 15%?

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

Lyapunov Unstable posted:

can somebody summarize what happened in the last 8 hours so I dont have to go through 70 pages of tviv

Imagine Sanders in Rocky 1. New Hampshire is Rocky 2.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

EugeneJ posted:

Did Hillary release her Universal Health Care plan yet

:yayclod:


Typical Pubbie posted:

The ACA is UHC, remember? She's supported it all along. HA HA HA! YAAAAS

:smith:

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

Typical Pubbie posted:

The ACA is UHC, remember? She's supported it all along. HA HA HA! YAAAAS

Someone needs to edit the Russia/USSR gif from the Simpsons for this.

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
I don't really get the yaaas slay queen meme but I kinda like it

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Logikv9 posted:

Is Reddit still masturbating over voter fraud?

I think you'll find Reddit denounces all instances of voter fraud except when it negatively impacts their senpai.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ


Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Javert (Precinct Chair): Now Precinct Delegate 24601, time is up and the vote is tied. You know what that means? 
Jean Valjean: Yes, it means I'm free. 
Javert: No. 
[flips a coin] 
Javert: Follow to the letter your itinerary, this badge of shame you wear until you die. It warns that you're a Hillary delegate. 
Jean Valjean: The vote was 54-54. My sister's child had school tomorrow and had to leave. You've dragged this out for hours... 
Javert: And you will be here until dawn unless you learn the meaning of the law! 

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Vox Nihili posted:

Javert (Precinct Chair): Now Precinct Delegate 24601, time is up and the vote is tied. You know what that means? 
Jean Valjean: Yes, it means I'm free. 
Javert: No. 
[flips a coin] 
Javert: Follow to the letter your itinerary, this badge of shame you wear until you die. It warns that you're a Hillary delegate. 
Jean Valjean: The vote was 54-54. My sister's child had school tomorrow and had to leave. You've dragged this out for hours... 
Javert: And you will be here until dawn unless you learn the meaning of the law! 

Holy poo poo dude. :bravo:

Ghetto SuperCzar
Feb 20, 2005


All of the idiots itt complaining about reddit who read Reddit enough to know they love Bernie Sanders...

It's you, you are the redditors

TwinsensRevenge
Aug 13, 2013

Vox Nihili posted:

Javert (Precinct Chair): Now Precinct Delegate 24601, time is up and the vote is tied. You know what that means? 
Jean Valjean: Yes, it means I'm free. 
Javert: No. 
[flips a coin] 
Javert: Follow to the letter your itinerary, this badge of shame you wear until you die. It warns that you're a Hillary delegate. 
Jean Valjean: The vote was 54-54. My sister's child had school tomorrow and had to leave. You've dragged this out for hours... 
Javert: And you will be here until dawn unless you learn the meaning of the law! 

Now transcribe an O'Malley captain singing On My Own

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Lyapunov Unstable posted:

can somebody summarize what happened in the last 8 hours so I dont have to go through 70 pages of tviv

there are still MOM people out? didn't they have to decide on sanders or clinton since theyre under 15%?

MOM died, Bernie tied, and Cruz slimed.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Thump! posted:

MOM died, Bernie tied, and Cruz slimed.

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