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SocketWrench posted:The audacity! It's like we were in the middle of a standoff or something! Bunch of socialist nazi muslim loving frogs! Just because a guy's wearing a cowboy hat in his twitter pic doesn't mean he's a ranting revolutionary rancher, dude
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SlipUp posted:lol those other three militants got themselves charges instead of getting that other dude's dropped. Unfortunately, they have 2 options of what to think. 1. Wow, we are really, really stupid and have done a stupid thing. 2. Aha! We were right all along! Of course the feds never intended to let any of us go. This was their plan from the start. I am taking bets now, but I must warn you that you that the odds are so poor for 2 that you'll lose money just by betting.
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Don't worry, the FBI is really good at letting people know they're hosed. Not like them knowing is going to end this. they'll just ignore it as "unlawful" because the FBI is supposed to "only investigate in federal offices". Just like when they said "we'll leave if the people want it", then the sheriff should tell them, then it was because the people were being oppressed. these fucks just make up bullshit to justify their ongoing retardation till big ol' daddy government finally comes in and wrings their collective neck. As a Millennial I posted:Just because a guy's wearing a cowboy hat in his twitter pic doesn't mean he's a ranting revolutionary rancher, dude I thought he got that line from Fry
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Volkerball posted:No Blaine Cooper? They don't have control of his location, no point in putting charges down on him and out in the open the now when doing so just gives him reason to run to ground. Everyone else is in jail or at the refuge.
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Well I guess we know why the Feds are cutting off Fry and co from speaking to others. Lack of Blaine Cooper is really weird.
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Skinty McEdger posted:They don't have control of his location, no point in putting charges down on him and out in the open the now when doing so just gives him reason to run to ground. Everyone else is in jail or at the refuge. If he wasn't already, he's loving ret....oh wait....yeah, he's probably holed up somewhere obvious
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Volkerball posted:No Blaine Cooper?
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Knight posted:Cooper is going to be found dead with "RAT" carved into his chest Call me a romantic, but I like to think he'll be shot by his border militia buddies while trying to cross into Mexico.
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Feb 4, 2016 18:07
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SlipUp posted:lol those other three militants got themselves charges instead of getting that other dude's dropped. Fry spent a lot of time complaining how unfair it was for only Sean to be charged when everyone did the same thing. I can only assume he is relieved the weird inconsistency has been resolved.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Fry spent a lot of time complaining how unfair it was for only Sean to be charged when everyone did the same thing. Of course, the warrant was for misdemeanors that Sean committed a few years ago. Whoops!
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Feb 4, 2016 18:15
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Feb 4, 2016 18:22
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I don't really know but my guess is neighboring ranchers and/or people with grazing permits on malheur have some irrigation work to do. Fry is arguing that impossible because it's frozen and irrigation means water. My guess is there is work on irrigation systems you do in the winter, but then I'm not a rancher so who knows.
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Bubbacub posted:Can somebody explain what this means? The FBI say that they're letting people onto the land to irrigate. Fry thinks that that sounds like bullshit because you can't irrigate if the temperature's so low that water doesn't flow. It's entirely possible that it is actually a ruse given the news today, but "irrigate" would probably mean "dig/clear irrigation channels" in this instance, which isn't prevented and may well be helped by freezing temperatures. It's like he's never even played Dwarf Fortress.
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Bubbacub posted:Can somebody explain what this means? I'll take a run at it. The ranchers probably wanted to do some irrigation work so the FBI has to accompany them. Fry sees a vicious FBI plot because it's frozen out. Who is doing irrigation work when it's frozen. Well that's my guess Efb
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Lycus posted:Of course, the warrant was for misdemeanors that Sean committed a few years ago. Whoops! The great part is that if the FBI really planned on just letting them go until they could get the indictment finished, the three who aren't Sean Anderson could have had an opening to flee after making it through the roadblocks safely. Now that an indictment has been made, there's no way that they can leave the refuge except in handcuffs or a body bag.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Lack of Blaine Cooper is really weird. I imagine that the FBI already has a sealed indictment for Blain and probably a bunch of other people involved in all this. They will just sit on those indictments until they have more of the people they want already in custody. It does seem like the FBI is content to just wait the last 4 out and let winter do their work for them. Its been getting down to the single digits at night over there on top of 3 inches of snow having just fallen. The power to the buildings was also cut days ago. Any form of living under those conditions is basically a constant survival situation. Just sitting around and doing nothing under those conditions requires a ton of constant calories. The fuel in their car tanks will only last so long before it runs out, and that is their last escape from the elements. With the power off those buildings will become cold, dark caves. All the food will freeze solid, bursting all the canned goods as well as the fresh water. Cooking will require tremendous amounts of fuel (they have some propane cookers and wood), and they will burn through whatever supplies they have remaining fairly quickly I imagine. (To say nothing of the energy requirements to thaw fresh water for use.) The only food that holds up under those conditions is either freeze dried stuff (which requires a bunch of water to use, so not much help under these circumstances) or fresh meat/veggies (which will require thawing before they can be worked into a meal.) Doing normal daily things like dishes or cooking takes a shitload of extra energy when it is that cold as well. I would also be willing to bet that the last 4 don't have the piles of clean clothes you need on hand to survive in that weather either. (Dirty clothes retain heat signifigantly less well than clean clothes, adding substantially to their misery.) Seems like the FBI is taking a cue from the Russians in WWII and letting "Commander Winter" do their work for them. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Reading material! Unsealed Indictment! https://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2016-02/3585/91645/Bundy_Indictment_unsealed.pdf
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ashpanash posted:Reading material! Unsealed Indictment! I notice all the defendants are referred to in capital letters and not as their Real and True Name. Perhaps they'll exploit this loophole in court.
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Kro-Bar posted:I notice all the defendants are referred to in capital letters and not as their Real and True Name. Perhaps they'll exploit this loophole in court. One can only hope.
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Prester Jane posted:I imagine that the FBI already has a sealed indictment for Blain and probably a bunch of other people involved in all this. They will just sit on those indictments until they have more of the people they want already in custody. According to one of the OPB reporters who has been on the refuge, there are two gas pumps there which they have been using to top off their vehicles and generators. Eventually the tanks feeding those pumps will go, but in the meantime they're warming up (and sleeping? and charging their FBI phone) in running vehicles. They're gonna run out of Coors and snacks soon though.
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Perfectly Safe posted:The FBI say that they're letting people onto the land to irrigate. Oh, ok. That makes sense. I had misread "ranchers" as "protestors," and I figured that "irrigate" meant "go pee." The mental picture of that was pretty funny.
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Now link the video of Pete conspiring with them and screaming at protesters with a bullhorn like 6 inches from their face!
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ashpanash posted:Reading material! Unsealed Indictment! I love the signature at the bottom. It's like what you do when you're pretending to write something down.
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Whoever made him that patch misunderstood what he meant when he said it should say "domestic terrist". 
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Prester Jane posted:Seems like the FBI is taking a cue from the Russians in WWII and letting "Commander Winter" do their work for them. My money is on their going in. I don't think that they intend to wait. I suspect that the irrigation thing is an excuse to perform a sweep as a prelude to entering the compound. I say this partially because I think that they're becoming a danger to themselves by staying out there, and the risks associated with leaving them are starting to outweigh the (at this point, fairly low) risks involved in making arrests. e: Epic High Five posted:Now link the video of Pete conspiring with them and screaming at protesters with a bullhorn like 6 inches from their face! Well quite. Perfectly Safe fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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ashpanash posted:Reading material! Unsealed Indictment! 
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stubblyhead posted:I love the signature at the bottom. It's like what you do when you're pretending to write something down. i got excited for a second, but it turns out the guy from Star Wars is Billy Dee Williams. 
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Fionnoula posted:According to one of the OPB reporters who has been on the refuge, there are two gas pumps there which they have been using to top off their vehicles and generators. Eventually the tanks feeding those pumps will go, but in the meantime they're warming up (and sleeping? and charging their FBI phone) in running vehicles. They're gonna run out of Coors and snacks soon though. I did not know that. Any word on how much fuel they have on hand? You are probably right about the Coors and snacks running our before the fuel.
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ashpanash posted:Reading material! Unsealed Indictment! I'm no law-talking guy but aren't there a bunch of other charges related to trespassing, destruction of government property, weapons violations, etc. that could be piled on?
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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/gun-nut-who-wanted-to-shoot-clintons-vagina-arrested-after-cops-spot-his-name-on-terror-watch-list/ THIS JOURNALIST was arrested in Ohio 2 months ago on weapons charges after being pulled over for (not actually) being on the terror watch list. Pretty sure he's on that list now though. Stultus Maximus posted:I'm no law-talking guy but aren't there a bunch of other charges related to trespassing, destruction of government property, weapons violations, etc. that could be piled on? Once the USFWS and FBI are able to get back on the refuge, more charges should be forthcoming. And since they're charged with conspiracy, everything one person can be charged with can be charged to all of them.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I'm no law-talking guy but aren't there a bunch of other charges related to trespassing, destruction of government property, weapons violations, etc. that could be piled on? Oh sure, this is just the initial indictment. Note the language: "including but not limited to the following:"
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Prester Jane posted:I did not know that. Any word on how much fuel they have on hand? I don't think anyone really has any idea how much is left in those tanks. I'm sure they probably knew how much was in there the morning of January 2, but how much has been used in the month since is anyone's guess. I bet every drat vehicle that showed up on the refuge probably filled up because HELL YEAH, FREE GAS!!!!! plus they were all coming and going back and forth to Burns at will for 26 days and that's more than 30 miles each way.
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White freedom loving Americans do everything better. A few nights in jail for an unruly protest? Amateurs. I'm looking at 30 in the slam because I love freedom and bald eagles SO loving MUCH BRO
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Goodpancakes posted:White freedom loving Americans do everything better. A few nights in jail for an unruly protest? Amateurs. I'm looking at 30 in the slam because I love freedom and bald eagles SO loving MUCH BRO WOLVERIIIIIIINES
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Hermetic posted:This journalist has a bad case of the Crazy Face. 
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