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DeusExMachinima posted:They're still relatively young and still have to dedicate a disproportionate amount of funds to making sure it's legal for people to commit the revolting crime of share their cars with each other if they so wish. Over time as they win legal battles and have to dedicate fewer resources to lawyers or as they pull out of less profitable areas long-term, you'll see a better picture of their future, succeed or fail. Do you draw a distinction between "an app that helps total strangers coordinate carpooling" and "a taxi service"? Because you seem to be buying into their DraftKings-esque games of semantic hot potato.
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Hey can we not argue about uber? That's pretty toxic and dumb.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:05
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DemeaninDemon posted:Hey can we not argue about uber? That's pretty toxic and dumb. Everything is toxic if it involves a topic people actually care and disagree about.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:07
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Destroy uber and guillotine it's owners, just imo.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:08
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Except it's the same slap fight every single time. Hence the dumb part.
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Lotka Volterra posted:Destroy uber and guillotine it's owners, just imo. Nationalize it and offer it for free to low-income users and the elderly.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:08
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DemeaninDemon posted:Except it's the same slap fight every single time. Hence the dumb part. Every discussion is the same one every single time. This can be fighting about Uber or circle jerking about how bad the Puritan Work Ethic is. You're not changing people's minds either way.
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computer parts posted:Every discussion is the same one every single time. This can be fighting about Uber or circle jerking about how bad the Puritan Work Ethic is. Bernie will free us from this liberal hell of liberal democracy. We won't need eyes to see...
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Feb 11, 2016 07:13
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computer parts posted:Every discussion is the same one every single time. This can be fighting about Uber or circle jerking about how bad the Puritan Work Ethic is. Some deep insight here bro.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:14
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Fried Chicken posted:No, it isn't. Reason being, uber generates massive negative externalities whereas the existent system has adapted to address those Artificial monopolies are externalities. quote:you realize that's how retirement works for these guys, right? They buy it, spend 20 years paying it off, 20 years building in equity, hit old age they sell the medallion to he next guy, retire and live off the cash. You are complaining "how dare the working poor be able to retire". Which is just one of the massive problems with it. If their retirement plan didn't depend on slamming the legal door in the face of other potential competitors, I'd feel bad. It does, so gently caress 'em they played the game, won for a long time, and now they're losing more often. quote:right, because they won't then put the PACs to use to solidify their own position. If Uber or Lyft use their lobbying power to try to outlaw or limit the number of ridesharing apps out there in the way taxi medallions limit cabs on the road, sure that's bad. Doubt it'll happen though. quote:so you actually have no idea the problems and lawsuits uber is generating if you think it comes down to this. Or the market valuation and current state of the market. Or how to valuations and returns work. I'm not married to rideshares. If they can't get enough business, or barring that gullible investors, then they sink. That's how it works. But they deserve the same level field as their competitors. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 07:54
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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alpha_destroy posted:Not as big of news as the Ferguson news, but in other Missouri news the UM board of curators have determined that graduate instructors are not employees (despite the fact that we all have to fill out W-2s like employees, are considered mandatory reports like employees of a public institution, and had the uni threaten to take away our health insurance subsidy because the federal government considers us employees) so they have no constitutional right to organization. The Missouri NEA is almost certainly going to file suit. So if labor disputes interest you keep an eye on that I guess. This sucks, and is depressingly widespread. Graduate researchers are facing the same issue at the University of California right now, where we are considered students (not employees) so we are legally prohibited from unionizing. Good luck with your protest, and I hope the NEA suit works out for you guys! I like the idea of publicly shredding W2s a lot. It's powerful imagery and it reminds me of Vietnam protesters burning their draft papers.
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Limiting the number of cabs riding around looking for hails is an unambiguously good thing unless you want your city's traffic to go to complete poo poo.
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Quorum posted:Nationalize it and offer it for free to low-income users and the elderly. Too bad that, unlike most cab companies, uber has no way of guaranteeing that vehicles will be available for disabled/wheelchair transport.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:16
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RevKrule posted:Democrats may get an easy pickup in the Senate in a seat that seemed otherwise secure. I have a feeling this won't hurt Blunt much, if at all. If it had happened in like October, maybe, but the election's a long way off from now and this doesn't seem like something that would have lasting effect.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:19
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The Maroon Hawk posted:I have a feeling this won't hurt Blunt much, if at all. If it had happened in like October, maybe, but the election's a long way off from now and this doesn't seem like something that would have lasting effect. After all, look at Ted Nugent. making GBS threads yourself to avoid the draft isn't a deal-breaker for these people, as long as you say the right things.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:27
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Cliven Bundy got picked up by the FBI after deplaning in Oregon. 
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Dubstep Jesus posted:Limiting the number of cabs riding around looking for hails is an unambiguously good thing unless you want your city's traffic to go to complete poo poo. That's not really a convincing defense of medallions in the face of US attitudes on public transportation infrastructure. I have no interest in defending much of anything about Uber, but that doesn't make the taxi system good.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:38
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Dubstep Jesus posted:Limiting the number of cabs riding around looking for hails is an unambiguously good thing unless you want your city's traffic to go to complete poo poo. If it was a traffic concern you should go ahead and apply it to all cars on the road with some sort of hypothetical universal city-level medallion like they do in Singapore. Personal cars take up the same space as a taxi. Not to mention that rides whose whole selling point is that they're called by an app aren't going to be cruising slow half the time looking for random dudes.
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Jagchosis posted:Cliven Bundy got picked up by the FBI after deplaning in Oregon. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 08:48
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Dr. Faustus posted:...and the remaining occupiers have announced they'll surrender in the morning. About loving time. One of the radio stations here puts on the local 3%er head to blabber on about it. He sounds like a dork and bitches about are FREEDUM and such. He was hilariously pissed when tent man committed suicide.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:That's not really a convincing defense of medallions in the face of US attitudes on public transportation infrastructure. I have no interest in defending much of anything about Uber, but that doesn't make the taxi system good. Given the lovely, self-perpetuating system that the taxis are stuck in, I hope that someday they do away with medallion systems. Hopefully, by the cities buying back the medallions.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:50
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DemeaninDemon posted:About loving time. Sorry I missed the caveat so I edited my post: They insist on being escorted by "a Nevada politician," (I assume they mean the one mentioned upthread) and evangelist Franklin Graham.
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So midnight thought, you're not going to get around America's hard work fetish. But maybe 'America you're not getting what you deserve for your hard work' could have traction especially backed up by easily digestible facts like, iirc, comparing increases in production to the increasing lack of compensation to the middle and lower class, and the old chestnut about the disparity between what Americans think the division of wealth in America is and what it actually is and further the downright commie division of wealth Americans think America should have.
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Poor Jeb! can't catch a break . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OE_lHQZGuM
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vorebane posted:So midnight thought, you're not going to get around America's hard work fetish. But maybe 'America you're not getting what you deserve for your hard work' could have traction especially backed up by easily digestible facts like, iirc, comparing increases in production to the increasing lack of compensation to the middle and lower class, and the old chestnut about the disparity between what Americans think the division of wealth in America is and what it actually is and further the downright commie division of wealth Americans think America should have. The issue with the latter statement is that a lot of people believe that you absolutely get what you deserve, regardless of however hard you work for it. It's called the Just World fallacy and it is a right son of a bitch to get through to people that believe in it.
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vorebane posted:So midnight thought, you're not going to get around America's hard work fetish. But maybe 'America you're not getting what you deserve for your hard work' could have traction especially backed up by easily digestible facts like, iirc, comparing increases in production to the increasing lack of compensation to the middle and lower class, and the old chestnut about the disparity between what Americans think the division of wealth in America is and what it actually is and further the downright commie division of wealth Americans think America should have. Add a few boogy men, put some pizzazz in your word choice, and this becomes Trumps entire campaign.
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"gently caress those people for wanting to be able to retire" or, we could not do that. That's my vote.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:That's not really a convincing defense of medallions in the face of US attitudes on public transportation infrastructure. I have no interest in defending much of anything about Uber, but that doesn't make the taxi system good. That the taxi system isn't good is almost a given, or else Uber wouldn't have existed in the first place, but that still makes a defense of Uber as being accelerationism writ small.
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vorebane posted:So midnight thought, you're not going to get around America's hard work fetish. But maybe 'America you're not getting what you deserve for your hard work' could have traction especially backed up by easily digestible facts like, iirc, comparing increases in production to the increasing lack of compensation to the middle and lower class, and the old chestnut about the disparity between what Americans think the division of wealth in America is and what it actually is and further the downright commie division of wealth Americans think America should have.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Sorry I missed the caveat so I edited my post: This right here is why I'm not scared of these cluster fucks rising up and taking back ARE FREEDUM.
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Feb 11, 2016 12:40
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Jagchosis posted:Cliven Bundy got picked up by the FBI after deplaning in Oregon. Finally! That's great news to wake up to, thanks.
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Mr. Fowl posted:Given the lovely, self-perpetuating system that the taxis are stuck in, I hope that someday they do away with medallion systems. Hopefully, by the cities buying back the medallions. I'm not going to get involved in debating libertarians who love Uber, but you should be aware that bringing up medallions is a dodge. Medallions typically only cover taxis that can cruise to pick up random fares. Hired cars dispatched by phone/internet/carrier pigeon/etc. have nothing to do with medallion systems, but, much to the chagrin of Uber and Lyft, are usually required to be licensed and insured for the purpose of doing that job. Uber and Lyft are trying to pretend that they don't need to follow local regulations because the rides are dispatched through THE This is why those companies are tossing so much money into lobbying. They know their business exists only due to the legal equivalent of a clerical error.
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quote:“We are not surrendering, we’re turning ourselves in,” Sean Anderson, one of the remaining militia members at the site near Burns, Oregon, said on a phone call with mediators, which was live-streamed on YouTube on Wednesday. “It goes against everything we believe in, but we’re going to do it.”
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Tesla's new Model 3 will officially cost $35,000, before any special tax incentives. Wow. They actually did it. I think this means that Musk's dreams of a revolution in transportation might actually be coming true. I know at that price point I'm definitely interested in buying one. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/10/466267066/tesla-preparing-to-charge-into-affordable-car-market NPR posted:The next Tesla car is expected to be revealed and made available for pre-order next month. And while the auto world is still waiting to see specs and drawings, one thing is already known: the price.
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axeil posted:Tesla's new Model 3 will officially cost $35,000, before any special tax incentives. Wow. They actually did it. I think this means that Musk's dreams of a revolution in transportation might actually be coming true. I know at that price point I'm definitely interested in buying one.
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Samurai Sanders posted:By the way, what ever happened to Tesla in regards to state government support of the car dealer system? Are they still in court over that? I believe so yes. Or at least I haven't heard anything about it. edit: Also the Model 3 will have all the self driving capabilities of the current models. As for Uber, their entire plan is to eventually not have actual drivers, the same way Netflix's actual business plan was to eventually not have actual DVDs. They treat their drivers so lovely because in their minds the drivers are a temporary expense; in 2-3 years they want to not have drivers at all. With the NHSTA telling Google they're okay to have an API registered as the legal driver of a car, this means that the path is clear for us to have fully autonomous taxis. Combined with Tesla's electric car we might finally have a way for us to get a good transportation plan without needing trillions of dollars in investment to put up subway lines everywhere. If all cars are self-driving and electric, you wouldn't even necessarily need to have your own car anymore. Just hail a self-driving car, tell it where you want to go and you're off. It'd reduce congestion a ton and be much cheaper for the end-user overall. A Good System IMO. axeil fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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axeil posted:I believe so yes. Or at least I haven't heard anything about it.
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axeil posted:If all cars are self-driving and electric, you wouldn't even necessarily need to have your own car anymore. Just hail a self-driving car, tell it where you want to go and you're off. It'd reduce congestion a ton and be much cheaper for the end-user overall. All owned by the government. HAHAHAHA!!!!
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In Tennessee news, Governor Haslam continues to push outsourcing of facilities management for all state properties, despite the numbers clearly not adding up:quote:http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/10/ut-official-says-haslam-outsourcing-plan-would-disaster/80191272/ This follows outsourcing of custodial services at all state campuses a few years ago, and is rumored to be leading towards outsourcing of all secretarial and clerical positions in state government. Meanwhile he also plans to split the state university system, which led to the resignation of the Chancellor and an open letter of protest regarding the plan.
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Samurai Sanders posted:By the way, what ever happened to Tesla in regards to state government support of the car dealer system? Are they still in court over that? I believe they're still in court over a lot of it but at least in Michigan they're structuring a dealer system to adhere to the letter, but not necessarily spirit, of the law.
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