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DeathSandwich posted:During the stream itself, this thread exploded when he mentioned he was a messianic jew and everyone in the stream got real quiet. I don't really know anything about Messianic Judaism so I don't understand the whole subtext of the statement aside from the very face value. Are messianic Jews big on the martyrdom thing? no, not really - it was just that the streamers then realized that he wasn't an evangelical Christian like they had been supposing and they FINALLY realized that their rhetoric wasn't necessarily going to work on him.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:22
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DeathSandwich posted:Granted I Am Not a Psychologist, but I think when you get in that mind set you start making big demands that some part of you knows is unreasonable (in his case, to never pay taxes and for the government to stop mutating people) but most of all they any personal victory at all, no matter how minor. Hence why he was able to walk away alive with a cookie, a promise of a pizza, and a hallelujah from the feds. It was more just that the people talking to him had been going on endlessly about Jesus and we're really grasping that he wasn't into it until he finally snapped at them for it.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:22
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theflyingorc posted:no, not really - it was just that the streamers then realized that he wasn't an evangelical Christian like they had been supposing and they FINALLY realized that their rhetoric wasn't necessarily going to work on him. The best part was when he said he wished he was talking to a Muslim cleric instead of Hall and Gavin. 
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Feb 11, 2016 21:24
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Another legal question, but is the Smith Act still in effect and can these morons be charged with it?
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Feb 11, 2016 21:26
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DeathSandwich posted:During the stream itself, this thread exploded when he mentioned he was a messianic jew and everyone in the stream got real quiet. I don't really know anything about Messianic Judaism so I don't understand the whole subtext of the statement aside from the very face value. Are messianic Jews big on the martyrdom thing? It was more the 'final straw' in discovering that Fry really had little in common with them at all other than 'gently caress da government'.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:26
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I thought this was funny: the Bundys still referring to the wildlife refuge by their fake made-up name, WELL AFTER the feds have the place completely surrounded and are in the process of removing the last four. Pretty loving delusional. https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch/posts/960032444073564 
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Feb 11, 2016 21:28
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Where's the latest summary post because god drat you fuckers making like 1700 posts in a few hours. It's like a GDT in here.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:29
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Followup FB post: WAKE UP! IT'S TIME FOR BREAKFAST AND CELL INSPECTIONS!
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Feb 11, 2016 21:30
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Probably a dumb question, but are you allowed to carry guns on planes?
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Feb 11, 2016 21:31
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In a manner of speaking, yes. But not on your person. It has to be checked in separately.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:32
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Mr Interweb posted:Probably a dumb question, but are you allowed to carry guns on planes? No. You can check it in, but you can't carry it on with you.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:32
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Mr Interweb posted:Probably a dumb question, but are you allowed to carry guns on planes? poo poo no. It has to be in checked luggage where you can't access it.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:33
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Mr Interweb posted:Probably a dumb question, but are you allowed to carry guns on planes? IIRC only if you're an air marshal now. Like they're the only law enforcement that can carry firearms on commercial flights.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:33
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Stultus Maximus posted:For those who missed it, NPR has the whole morning stream up: Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is going to be a hoot this weekend.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:33
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So, in the near future, stuff that should keep this thread interesting: 1. Feds are going to have to clean up the refuge. We should get reports on its condition. 2. Maybe there will be further activity against the Bundy family at their ranch. Since they took the Patriarch, it could easily be a repeat of this situation at the reserve. 3. We don't know how many "patriots" are still hanging around Burns, or how they'll take this latest news. Long term: 1. Effects on broader supporters, like crazy Nevada senator lady 2. Responses by other militias. 3. The Trials.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:34
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fap fap SPLOOGE posted:Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is going to be a hoot this weekend. I have my doubts.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:35
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Elendil004 posted:Where's the latest summary post because god drat you fuckers making like 1700 posts in a few hours. It's like a GDT in here. All remaining people at the refuge taken into custody. Cliven Bundy captured at airport because he's done. David Fry got a cookie and a Hallelujah.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:35
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I missed it because of work, drat it. I'm happy to hear that DefendYourBase didn't kill himself.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:35
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Feb 11, 2016 21:36
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theflyingorc posted:So, in the near future, stuff that should keep this thread interesting: Long Term Effect 4 - season 3 of Serial
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Feb 11, 2016 21:36
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Polaron posted:No. DeathSandwich posted:poo poo no. It has to be in checked luggage where you can't access it. A Winner is Jew posted:IIRC only if you're an air marshal now. Okay, didn't think so, but just wanted to make sure. This being the case, it makes Cliven's decision to board a plane even more hilarious.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:37
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A Winner is Jew posted:IIRC only if you're an air marshal now. There are extremely limited circumstances where non-air marshals can carry but the paperwork is insane and it's very rare. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/law-enforcement Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 21:37
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Smiling Jack posted:There are extremely limited circumstances where non-air marshals can carry but the paperwork is insane and it's very rare. you need it so that William Shatner can shoot gremlins
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Feb 11, 2016 21:38
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Crabtree posted:Another legal question, but is the Smith Act still in effect and can these morons be charged with it? I sure hope not; that was a terrible law.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:39
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Tree of liberty lookin really dry today
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Feb 11, 2016 21:39
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hcenvirons posted:Long Term Effect 4 - season 3 of Serial Oh god I've never wanted a podcast so badly in my life
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Feb 11, 2016 21:40
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Mr Interweb posted:Okay, didn't think so, but just wanted to make sure. This being the case, it makes Cliven's decision to board a plane even more hilarious. People make it sound like he thought he was going to meet the Nevada state rep at the airport and maybe figured he would be immune from arrest because of that (he wouldn't have been) but she wasn't there anyways
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Feb 11, 2016 21:40
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theflyingorc posted:So, in the near future, stuff that should keep this thread interesting: The other thing to watch for (and I'm sure the FBI are on this) is any potential OKC bombings from this. I have to say that the contrast to how they handled this standoff and the Bundy ranch one have been way better than Waco / Ruby Ridge, but sovcit's have been proven to be loving batshit at every corner and after all the cries of "they don't play fair" or "tarp man was murdered" I could easily see one of the fringe people wanting to become the next McVeigh.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:41
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Good Citizen posted:Tree of liberty lookin really dry today Roll that poo poo up super sheriff 
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Feb 11, 2016 21:41
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Levitate posted:People make it sound like he thought he was going to meet the Nevada state rep at the airport and maybe figured he would be immune from arrest because of that (he wouldn't have been) but she wasn't there anyways  What the hell? This keeps getting better and better.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:42
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Good Citizen posted:Tree of liberty lookin really dry today I kind of get the feeling that near the end he mainly surrendered because he realized the people he had surrounded himself with were crazy jesus freaks who saw his impending suicide as an opportunity to guide him into the kingdom of heaven Like I was so certain at the Hallelujah! moment he was going to kill himself, but now I'm pretty sure he was just making fun of the other two idiots on that phone call
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Feb 11, 2016 21:42
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Smiling Jack posted:There are extremely limited circumstances where non-air marshals can carry but the paperwork is insane and it's very rare. I'm the boring shut in that's never been on an airplane. Are Air Marshals in plainclothes when on an airplane generally? It'd stand to reason you wouldn't want to advertise who the Air Marshal on a flight was in case some group of people get it in their head to try and jack him.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:42
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A Winner is Jew posted:The other thing to watch for (and I'm sure the FBI are on this) is any potential OKC bombings from this. I have to say that the contrast to how they handled this standoff and the Bundy ranch one have been way better than Waco / Ruby Ridge, but sovcit's have been proven to be loving batshit at every corner and after all the cries of "they don't play fair" or "tarp man was murdered" I could easily see one of the fringe people wanting to become the next McVeigh. Real talk, I hope the number of militiamen that decide to continue to uphold this incident are kept to an absolute minimum despite all of the people on twitter/facebook calling for people to stand up and take arms.
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A Winner is Jew posted:The other thing to watch for (and I'm sure the FBI are on this) is any potential OKC bombings from this. I have to say that the contrast to how they handled this standoff and the Bundy ranch one have been way better than Waco / Ruby Ridge, but sovcit's have been proven to be loving batshit at every corner and after all the cries of "they don't play fair" or "tarp man was murdered" I could easily see one of the fringe people wanting to become the next McVeigh. I forgot to mention that. Again, it's too bad they had to shoot LaVoy, because this was nearly perfect. Also, a statement from the Harney County Court: quote:"The occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is over. Law enforcement will now be able to begin the process of clearing booby traps and processing the crime scene. Let's be clear, armed occupation of federal property is a crime, it is not a peaceful protest, and the illegal taking of federal property is a matter rightly dealt with by the FBI.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:43
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I get the sense that the FBI are an actual good intelligence agency where the CIA / NSA are spying, torturing fucksticks. Is that accurate?
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DeathSandwich posted:I'm the boring shut in that's never been on an airplane. Are Air Marshals in plainclothes when on an airplane generally? It'd stand to reason you wouldn't want to advertise who the Air Marshal on a flight was in case some group of people get it in their head to try and jack him. You are never supposed to know if an air marshal is on your flight.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:45
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Mo_Steel posted:I get the sense that the FBI are an actual good intelligence agency where the CIA / NSA are spying, torturing fucksticks. Is that accurate? The FBI are police -- they work in the country; the CIA are spies -- they work outside of the country.
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Feb 11, 2016 21:45
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https://twitter.com/PaladinCornelia/status/697881698801811456 Full set of heli images of surrender at http://www.kgw.com/news/local/eastern-oregon/refuge-occupiers-fbi-work-toward-standoff-end-thursday-morning/39633218 Mark Identified! (not really) https://twitter.com/PaladinCornelia/status/697870335782232064
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Mo_Steel posted:I get the sense that the FBI are an actual good intelligence agency where the CIA / NSA are spying, torturing fucksticks. Is that accurate? The NSA is very good at what is does. It just probably shouldn't be doing a lot of it.
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