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Bizarro Watt posted:Looks like the debt collection agency (which bought the federal loans) took him to court and then the court issued an order for the Marshals to get him since he was delinquent. By showing up at his home with guns, he probably means they showed up while carrying, which is to be expected since they're law enforcement. Yea, I doubt he got arrested. The other side got a court order for the guy to appear, Marshals execute federal court orders
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computer parts posted:And you do know that O'Connor was a Reagan appointee right? There's no guarantee she'll actually do what the Democrats want. Yes that's part of it. Obama nominates a former Reagan-appointed justice and watches the fireworks. She might have been appointed by The Great One but she's also (partially) pro-choice.
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Luigi Thirty posted:10% believe whites are a superior race I'm going to pretend this means that 90% said black people were superior.
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I know we want to keep primary chat out of this thread but this is too good a fuckup not to get more eyes. Rubio put out a new commercial called "Morning again in America." Well, the opening shot is the Vancouver skyline. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/16/marco-rubios-morning-again-in-america-ad-opens-with-a-canadian-skyline/
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foobardog posted:That's... Kind of heartening? Like I'd prefer it if no one thought that explicitly, but that's less than I expected. It's really important to note the distinction between people that believe something and people willing to admit to it in a poll.
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mcmagic posted:10% seems low for SC republicans. 10% is absolutely too low. I expected so much more.
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Bizarro Watt posted:Looks like the debt collection agency (which bought the federal loans) took him to court and then the court issued an order for the Marshals to get him since he was delinquent. By showing up at his home with guns, he probably means they showed up while carrying, which is to be expected since they're law enforcement. Note that this is a $1500 student loan too.
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EwokEntourage posted:Yea, I doubt he got arrested. The other side got a court order for the guy to appear, Marshals execute federal court orders probably this
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RevKrule posted:I know we want to keep primary chat out of this thread but this is too good a fuckup not to get more eyes. Some Americans can see Vancouver from their house
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computer parts posted:Note that this is a $1500 student loan too. A 29 year old loan which probably has a statue of limitations on when the collector can sue.
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No mystery. It's called Meth.
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Azuth0667 posted:A 29 year old loan which probably has a statue of limitations on when the collector can sue. Which you would need to appear in court to put forth that defense.
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Bizarro Watt posted:This sentence is just funny to read, though: No, it's not. At all. It's actually loving horrifying. 
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It will probably never happen, but I'd love to see what would happen to the economy if all government held student debt was just forgiven. An entire generation no longer bogged down with mortgage-sized loans they've had since before the enter the workplace. Suddenly the spending power of an entire generation is skyrocketed. I mean, one of my coworkers still lives with his parents despite his job as a software developer because he can't afford to live elsewhere while paying student loans.
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Azuth0667 posted:A 29 year old loan which probably has a statue of limitations on when the collector can sue. I didn't think student loans had statutes of limitations? I mean definitely not dischargeable; I don't know if that extends to statutes of limitations though.
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Logikv9 posted:10% is absolutely too low. I expected so much more. 10% were willing to a) frame their implicit beliefs consciously and b) express them in a straightforward and explicit manner. Survey questions for things like this which are wrapped in a dogwhistle inside a racially coded innuendo inside a snide double entendre, not to mention where one answer will net you severe societal disapproval, are tough.
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This may shock y'all but there's no correlation between Twitter support and electoral outcome.
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Paradoxish posted:So... what, exactly, is the point of this? Assuming you can't literally dump someone in jail for debt, how is arresting some guy and forcing him to sign a payment plan for a debt he's already not paying a worthwhile use of anyone's time? What's the end goal here? I imagine a court judgment that allows them to garnish his wages (should he have any, and up to a maximum percentage allowed for by law). I would have thought that could have happened via default judgement though without arrest, so, I'm not sure why that was necessary.
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Wait if I ignore a court case the government might show up at my house? Creeping fascism.
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MrChupon posted:I imagine a court judgment that allows them to garnish his wages (should he have any, and up to a maximum percentage allowed for by law). I would have thought that could have happened via default judgement though without arrest, so, I'm not sure why that was necessary. This is actually why I asked. I have two friends who had their wages garnished through default judgments (one for student loans), which is why I was wondering if there was a point to hauling him into court aside from just wasting everyone's time.
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Paradoxish posted:This is actually why I asked. I have two friends who had their wages garnished through default judgments (one for student loans), which is why I was wondering if there was a point to hauling him into court aside from just wasting everyone's time. because they figure out where you're working in order to garnish your wages in court
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JeffersonClay posted:Wait if I ignore a court case the government might show up at my house? Creeping fascism. To be fair, it isn't too uncommon for big businesses to swear up and down they gave you your legally required notices, but then just go "oops someone's bad" when it turns out they never did. All the meanwhile the business's lawyers hammer the victim over for not having documents the business never gave them.
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Fried Chicken posted:, they’ll give them green uniforms and they’ll be used to intimidate the middle class as sure as I’m sitting here.” [/Url] "Middle class" is code for white working people. Both parties use it. We can't say "workers" because communism so we say middle class and imply the lower class doesn't matter because of course they don't. They're brown.
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computer parts posted:Note that this is a $1500 student loan too.
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g0del posted:So, the government sells delinquent accounts to private debt collectors to save money. Who then go to court and get a judgement to send out 7 government employees to drag the debtor into court to collect their $1500. At this point, wouldn't it be cheaper for the government to just forgive the debt? Is this anything other than a stealth give-away to one of the slimiest industries in the country? Because FYGM.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Because FYGM. I can see how someone who worked a second job to pay their debt would get pissed that someone who defaulted and ran off to burning man would get debt relief but they didn't.
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"When I was in college in the 70s, I waited tables, went to school, and paid off my student debt in no time with the job my degree helped me get. It was so easy, and shows this generation is just lazy"
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Khisanth Magus posted:It will probably never happen, but I'd love to see what would happen to the economy if all government held student debt was just forgiven. An entire generation no longer bogged down with mortgage-sized loans they've had since before the enter the workplace. Suddenly the spending power of an entire generation is skyrocketed. It would probably lead to another housing bubble. And then 30 years down the line people would be saying "well it was right for me to get my loans forgiven, but kids these days are just too lazy".
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g0del posted:So, the government sells delinquent accounts to private debt collectors to save money. Who then go to court and get a judgement to send out 7 government employees to drag the debtor into court to collect their $1500. At this point, wouldn't it be cheaper for the government to just forgive the debt? Is this anything other than a stealth give-away to one of the slimiest industries in the country? American "fiscal conservatism" is full of examples like this. It's the equivalent of refusing to go in debt for a new car as you continually pay thousands to keep your clunker running.
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g0del posted:So, the government sells delinquent accounts to private debt collectors to save money. Who then go to court and get a judgement to send out 7 government employees to drag the debtor into court to collect their $1500. At this point, wouldn't it be cheaper for the government to just forgive the debt? Is this anything other than a stealth give-away to one of the slimiest industries in the country? A better question is why can't I buy my own debt for pennies on the dollar?
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No price is too high to bring justice to someone who borrowed 1500 bucks thirty years ago, but god forbid we subsidize higher education and help folks avoid that situation in the first place.
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I'm surprised people are defending the dude who refused to show up to court for what is equivalent to a couple of traffic tickets. That they didn't even want all at one time, he could've set up a payment plan for them.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Well that was fast.  I really hope this takes off.
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Trabisnikof posted:I can see how someone who worked a second job to pay their debt would get pissed that someone who defaulted and ran off to burning man would get debt relief but they didn't. Nice stereotype, bro. That still qualifies as FYGM and/or bucket of crabs mentality on the borrowers, by the way.
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scaliagate or scaliagahzi?Your Dunkle Sans posted:Nice stereotype, bro. You're right, often people get overtime and work one job instead.
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RevKrule posted:I know we want to keep primary chat out of this thread but this is too good a fuckup not to get more eyes. No no no It is the Vancouver skyline at sunset
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Trabisnikof posted:You're right, often people get overtime and work one job instead. Or, for example, got into a serious accident or developed a life-crippling medical condition that results in them being laid off and unable to pay the debt off regularly/on time. But you can keep entertaining your slacker straw man if you want. 
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