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Silver Brushes posted:Looking at it here there's a lot more going on than you can pick up in the film: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eravana Can't really tell where the cockpit/bridge or engines are but I assume it's facing forward. The corner of the ship on the right side of the image looks like it may have a tiny, Falcon-like cockpit. That's actually a really cool design, too bad it wasn't used much.
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Jerkface posted:I like it because its a space whale shark that eats other ships. Han is the galaxy's big fish, who yearns to go back to the time before there was no one left in the galaxy for him to swindle. Han has become part of the system of leviathan worship and sacrifice. Quigon loved the biggest fish.
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Feb 23, 2016 06:02
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  This is an image from a children's book. Those poor kids.
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Feb 23, 2016 06:08
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Maybe you're supposed to put a sticker in the middle.
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Feb 23, 2016 06:14
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Please tell me Han has a wedding ring on his left hand.
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Feb 23, 2016 06:42
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That looks hilariously like the last supper.
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Feb 23, 2016 06:58
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McDowell posted:
Naw, Rebels recently repurposed the Flurry as an Imperial design, which gets captured by the rebels by the end of the episode, so I guess it balances out.
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Feb 23, 2016 10:26
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Cnut the Great posted:So, moving on to a new topic-- It looks like a giant square (because square = mechanical) mechawhale that eats the main heroes and their ship the Millenium Falcon, echoing that time Han Solo got eaten by an actual organic space whaleworm, you bitter old bean. Han is outside the Millenium Falcon, he's given up his old life, as if he gave up ever escaping the space whaleworm and is just content to live within it, his entire life operating around the principle of what's going to happen next on the soaps.
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Feb 23, 2016 15:21
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Cnut the Great posted:To show that I'm not just determined to rag on TFA at all costs, allow me to restate my opinion that I like the design of Starkiller Base: My favorite thing about Starkiller is that it's like an unblinking eye (complete with eyelashes), staring directly into a sun. The fact that it's another Death Star is, to me, inexcusable, but I also like the design. My favorite vehicle is Rey's Jakku speeder bike. It recalls Luke's Tatooine landspeeder, turned on its side, and has just a hint of the "literally riding a rocket engine" of Podracing. 
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Feb 23, 2016 15:40
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Cnut the Great posted:Naw. Weyland-Yutani's ships are massive, space-faring, industrial cathedrals. What ship is that? quote:It looks like a giant square (because square = mechanical) mechawhale that eats the main heroes and their ship the Millenium Falcon, echoing that time Han Solo got eaten by an actual organic space whaleworm, you bitter old bean. Han is outside the Millenium Falcon, he's given up his old life, as if he gave up ever escaping the space whaleworm and is just content to live within it, his entire life operating around the principle of what's going to happen next on the soaps. Yeah, it's a regular vanilla freighter because that's what Han's become. I like the hangar design though.
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Feb 23, 2016 15:51
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Yeah, I love her little speeder.  Got the Lego version of it and it was a quick but fun build. RBA Starblade posted:What ship is that? It's the Nostromo from Alien.
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Vintersorg posted:It's the Nostromo from Alien. Technically it's the refinery that the Nostromo is towing. 
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Feb 23, 2016 15:57
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Phylodox posted:Technically it's the refinery that the Nostromo is towing. Ah, poo poo - youre so right. Always forget that tidbit, hehe.
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Feb 23, 2016 15:58
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Oh neat. I was going to say, I don't recall it looking like that!
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Rey's speeder rules.
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Vintersorg posted:Ah, poo poo - youre so right. Always forget that tidbit, hehe. Oh. Well, it left an impression on me. I probably watched Alien way too many times as a child. Where were my parents? Astrochicken posted:That looks hilariously like the last supper.  
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computer parts posted:The entire sequence on that ship is strange. The end point is just to get Han & Chewie back on the Falcon, but it feels like something else should have come out of it. They should have used the time taken up by the rathtar sequence to maybe instead have a slower series of scenes where Han could bond with Rey in a more meaningful way. Then he could actually come across as a real surrogate father figure to her, as opposed to just being a sort of nice man she met a few hours ago who offered her a job. Unfortunately the movie never lets up on its relentless pace after the relatively well-paced first act on Jakku. It's like J.J. was afraid the seams would start showing if he just took a couple minutes to let things breathe a little bit. All the characters in TFA interact like they're extras in a Law & Order episode. "No time to just talk! Can't slow down! Gotta keep stacking these loving boxes!" Watch TFA and count how many times two or more characters frantically talk over one another in rapid intervals while imparting important character and plot information. It's insane. I'ts like J.J. looked at the lightning quick pacing of A New Hope and was like, "That's good! That's what everyone likes! Let's do that, except turn it up to 11. No people sitting on couches in this movie, no sir!"
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Yeah but I love all that though and think it's a good thing. It's energetic. It moves. Moving is good.
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JJ assumes the audience has ADHD. I think it's stupid and hurts his movies, but it's hard to say it doesn't get results. I mean, the best scenes in 8MM are the quiet ones.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:39
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8MM isn't a space adventure film.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:49
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Why is it whenever a director makes a choice, its because they were afraid? Like maybe JJ just likes fast paced things, maybe its not for his audience but for him.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:51
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Cnut the Great posted:"That's good! That's what everyone likes! Let's do that, except turn it up to 11. No people sitting on couches in this movie, no sir!" Thank God for that too.
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PBS Newshour posted:Why is it whenever a director makes a choice, its because they were afraid? Like maybe JJ just likes fast paced things, maybe its not for his audience but for him. Okay, sure. It hurts the film, though, is the point. It's not like I'm the only one to point this out. RBA Starblade posted:Thank God for that too. Yeah, thank God there weren't any scenes like this:  I don't know about you, but the moment two characters in a movie sit down to talk, I fall right the gently caress to sleep. It's inexcusably lazy filmmaking. Why aren't Luke and Ben frantically shouting at each other while being chased down a hallway by a tentacle monster??? Lucas, you hack!
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PBS Newshour posted:Why is it whenever a director makes a choice, its because they were afraid? Like maybe JJ just likes fast paced things, maybe its not for his audience but for him. It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:36
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They had that scene but it was in front of water instead of dirt.
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Cnut the Great posted:
This is the internet after all. I liked TFA but I can certainly agree that I missed Lucas's steadier pace. When I read a review that said Abrams had made a more old fashioned movie, that's what I expected; I came out of the theater pleased overall but a little breathless, and wondering what exactly that reviewer had meant. However, we watched his Star Trek movies this past week and, although I saw TFA only once, my recollection is that it wasn't quite THAT kinetic, because although I like those too, they are kind of insane. Or maybe I'm just getting old, but it seemed like each shot lasted an average of about 0.8 seconds.
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porfiria posted:JJ assumes the audience has ADHD. I think it's stupid and hurts his movies, but it's hard to say it doesn't get results. I mean, the best scenes in 8MM are the quiet ones. thats not how ADHd works............
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A breakneck pace is appropriate in some cases - like in the Star Trek reboot, where the characters are constantly bombarded with surreal insanity, forced to keep up the pace or go mad. It is not appropriate when, for example, Rey complains about being hunted with an anger and weariness that reflects a lifetime on the run. Or when they go to a hipster bar to chill out between chase sequences. Or when FN delivers a monologue about how the New Order are the only family he's ever known. Or when the Resistance guys get trapped in combat while they wait for a signal. Or when Leia mourns her husband. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Thank God for that too. Yeah I know hindsight is 20/20 but if there was even one dialogue scene longer than anything in the movie where both characters are sitting down this thread would be tearing it apart for being too much like the prequels except for two or three people.
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A J.J. Abrams take on 8mm would be a hell of a thing. Maybe he could cast himself as the guy holding the mirrors to get enough lens flare in the diegetic snuff films, Hitchcock/Shyamalan/Polanski style.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:A breakneck pace is appropriate in some cases - like in the Star Trek reboot, where the characters are constantly bombarded with surreal insanity, force to keep up the pace or go mad. Yeah, that makes sense. I get that some people wish the new Trek movies weren't so frenetic, but it's appropriate for the subject matter, and indeed the overall premise of the original show would benefit from it as well. Exploring strange new worlds, the final frontier, going to see what's out there, and usually getting in way above our heads. Try on Q's challenge to Picard: "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you'd better go home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross - but it's not for the timid." If anything, the reboot films aren't crazy enough yet. Starkiller Base on the other hand is just about treated as another day at the office by the Resistance; tonally it'd almost be better shot like those Looney Tunes cartoons, with the sheepdog Ackbar and the wolf Hux: "Mornin', Ralph." "Mornin', Sam."
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Neo Rasa posted:Yeah I know hindsight is 20/20 but if there was even one dialogue scene longer than anything in the movie where both characters are sitting down this thread would be tearing it apart for being too much like the prequels except for two or three people. I really don't think that would be the case. There is a lot of middle ground between the two.
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I will never, ever understand the thinking behind ROTJ Death Star II and the new one in the new film. The repeating of trench runs, hitting the one vulnerable spot, etc. I don't care how "thematic" it is. It is just straight-up lame. It works well in the '77 film but repeating it is a real sorry loving decision, both in '83 and 2015. The idea was so lame Marvel comics came up with it in the '70s. They had to run all storylines past some Lucasfilm rep before they could be approved, and when they broached their lame idea, Lucasfilm said no because they were going to use the idea on ROTJ. And then this thing in JJ's film just pushes it way over the line. It's bad.
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MrMojok posted:I will never, ever understand the thinking behind ROTJ Death Star II and the new one in the new film. The repeating of trench runs, hitting the one vulnerable spot, etc. I don't care how "thematic" it is. It is just straight-up lame. But the "under construction" Death Star in RotJ is a trap, right? Like, it's meant to draw the Rebel fleet and Luke Skywalker into positions where both can be eliminated. It's not just "well, let's try that one more time," it's "the Rebels won't be able to resist attacking this."
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MrMojok posted:I will never, ever understand the thinking behind ROTJ Death Star II and the new one in the new film. The repeating of trench runs, hitting the one vulnerable spot, etc. I don't care how "thematic" it is. It is just straight-up lame. In a lot of ways, Death Star II telegraphs a lot of what people disliked about the prequels- Lucas clearly looked back at the trench run in ANH and said "I can do better, if I had had the tools back then that I do now, it would look like this!" Watching ROTJ is almost literally the first thing I remember in my life, so I was never able to be critical about it, but it is objectively stupid beyond forgiveness.
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homullus posted:But the "under construction" Death Star in RotJ is a trap, right? Like, it's meant to draw the Rebel fleet and Luke Skywalker into positions where both can be eliminated. It's not just "well, let's try that one more time," it's "the Rebels won't be able to resist attacking this." It is a trap in the sense of it is fully operation which the rebels were not aware of, but it was still intended to be a battle-station to keep the systems in line and I found it extremely lame as a kid. Return of the Jedi is a mish-mash of the franchise's lows and absolute peak.
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The trap aspect works well, making Luke look impotently on while the fleet is destroyed. I loved the Palp-Luke-Vader stuff there, but couldn't they have used a different plot device or setting, rather than a second death star with a critical weakness? And that JJ basically has Death Star III is just mind-boggling to me.
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