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King Vidiot posted:Some people were claiming that Bernie Sanders supporters would avoid voting for Hillary out of spite or being whiny babies or... something... if Hillary is nominated. I don't think that's really the case at all, I can't imagine people being so disenfranchised over a Bernie Sanders defeat that they'd just let Donald Trump get elected. I'm all for Sanders myself even if I'm under no delusions that he's going to get nominated, but I would still vote for a million Hillary Clintons over Drumpf. At worst, at absolute worst Hillary would just be an extension of Obama's presidency of making things kind-of-okay. We'd continue to coast along on our present course instead of crashing into the sea while the whole world looks on and hates us. I won't vote for Hillary. But it doesn't hurt her or help Trump; where I live there's a better chance of it raining whatever the hell Trump's hair is made of than him winning. The big problem isn't Bernie supporters being pissed off and not showing up for her (although that will probably happen too), it's Hillary Clinton not being able to get anyone excited. She'll still probably win though.
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No Butt Stuff posted:"We are selling these at cost." Why is that figure hard to believe? Probably made in America by people paid a living wage.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:11
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Trump owns branding rights on Drumpf too so they had to pay rights fees. 
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Mar 1, 2016 17:14
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Freaquency posted:Trump owns branding rights on Drumpf too so they had to pay rights fees. No, John said specifically that they trademarked it, or something.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:19
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Pillow Hat posted:The fact that both candidates are anti-establishment does not make them similar in the same way that both George W. Bush and I are anti-Ebola (but quite dissimilar). A lot of Bernie's support comes from people whose only belief is "gently caress Hillary", and that section of his support will probably crossover to Trump. A surprising number don't actually care about Republican policy because it's not going to affect them. Bernie's revolution is built on a not-insignificant portion of his supporters not really being committed to his world view and simply wanting to stick it to the man. Trump on the other hand has a much more legitimate insurgency going on, and its reflected by his domination of the polls. You are not going to find many Trump supporters threatening to vote Hillary if he is screwed out of the nomination at the convention.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:21
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meristem posted:No, John said specifically that they trademarked it, or something. It must be fun being the attorney(s) for this show.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:24
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Pillow Hat posted:Why is that figure hard to believe? Probably made in America by people paid a living wage. Because you can buy a cheap rear end hat with nothing on it that's made in America for way less than that, and having someone sit in front of an embroidery machine doesn't cost 10 bucks a hat.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:38
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IRQ posted:I won't vote for Hillary. But it doesn't hurt her or help Trump; where I live there's a better chance of it raining whatever the hell Trump's hair is made of than him winning. It really dawned on me that I have completely lost faith in the system since I realized that Bernie won't win the nomination and I'm going to be forced to vote for scum (HRC) to prevent worse scum from getting the presidency (Drumpf). We'll see after today, but so far it looks like a battle between status-quo, no change, fake, flip flopping, neo-con versus Drumpf Uber Alles: a caricature of all the worst parts of the Republican party. Jesus. No hope for America anymore.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:46
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I'm not American but I would vote for Sanders if I was, and I wouldn't vote for Hilary if he lost. Wouldn't vote Republican either, but still. I could kind of understand a Bernie supporter voting Trump out of spite honestly. A "gently caress it, burn it all down" vote. You could've had the president we all needed, now you'll have the president you deserve.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:53
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VagueRant posted:I'm not American but I would vote for Sanders if I was, and I wouldn't vote for Hilary if he lost. I've actually seen people talking about voting for Drumpf to make things worse to make the 'revolution' necessary in the future and to speed it up. Bolsheviks are alive I guess.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:55
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Freaquency posted:Drumpf owns branding rights on Drumpf too so they had to pay rights fees. Whether this is because of the Drumpf extension or not, it doesn't matter, it's hilarious. Also this: 
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Mar 1, 2016 17:56
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Phi230 posted:I've actually seen people talking about voting for Drumpf to make things worse to make the 'revolution' necessary in the future and to speed it up. Bolsheviks are alive I guess. Trump has been all over the place with his social safety net positions. I'm not sure if he's pro-welfare for
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Mar 1, 2016 18:05
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VagueRant posted:I'm not American but I would vote for Sanders if I was, and I wouldn't vote for Hilary if he lost. This is a pretty stunning level of cognitive dissonance. The only victims when we "burn it all down" will be the poor and middle class.
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Mar 1, 2016 18:16
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People saying they would vote for Bernie but not Hillary seem like they don't recognize the importance of SCOTUS. It is so myopic.
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Mar 1, 2016 18:28
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https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/48a3y0/the_true_story_behind_the_donald_drumpf_accusation/ "John Oliver is a liberal media sockpuppet if he was lying about this then he was lying about everything else about Donald" Edit: Also lol at the irony of this being their image  : Donald Trump as an evil-looking robot whose only purpose is to parrot the absolute worst opinions on the internet.
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Mar 1, 2016 18:31
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Pillow Hat posted:People saying they would vote for Bernie but not Hillary seem like they don't recognize the importance of SCOTUS. It is so myopic. Why isn't Obama gonna nominate a new guy for that? I thought the stuff about how the president can't nominate someone in an election year was just unfounded bullshit
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Mar 1, 2016 18:45
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Pillow Hat posted:People saying they would vote for Bernie but not Hillary seem like they don't recognize the importance of SCOTUS. It is so myopic. This really only is the case if you live in a contested state. I'm tired of holding my nose and voting for the lesser evil, so i don't. It makes no difference here, but at least i vote my conscience. Now if i lived in Ohio or something then yeah, she's awful but vote Hilary.
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Mar 1, 2016 18:49
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/48a3y0/the_true_story_behind_the_donald_drumpf_accusation/ Why did I read that? Did you know that the whole Drumpf thing is all about being anti-German?
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Mar 1, 2016 18:57
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Krowley posted:Why isn't Obama gonna nominate a new guy for that? There will be at least two SCOTUS appointments by the next president regardless of what happens with Scalia's seat. IRQ posted:This really only is the case if you live in a contested state. I'm tired of holding my nose and voting for the lesser evil, so i don't. It makes no difference here, but at least i vote my conscience. Now if i lived in Ohio or something then yeah, she's awful but vote Hilary. POTUS is not the only thing you vote for, and it's certainly not the only thing that matters. Local elections are important and your vote matters.
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Mar 1, 2016 19:00
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TheArtist 314 posted:Whether this is because of the Drumpf extension or not, it doesn't matter, it's hilarious. Ha, I left the first one to differentiate that but I forgot about the extension. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
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Mar 1, 2016 19:33
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Pillow Hat posted:POTUS is not the only thing you vote for, and it's certainly not the only thing that matters. Local elections are important and your vote matters. You're arguing with something I never said?
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Mar 1, 2016 19:34
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Excuse my misunderstanding. I took your statement about not voting for Hillary to mean that you would forego voting in this election cycle altogether. I don't think many people would show up for the elections and vote for every office except POTUS (or some other number of offices less than the total number available for voting), but I can understand why you would choose to do this. Edit: No, I just read something that completely wasn't there actually. My mistake. I'm not 100% sure what your statement means, actually.
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Mar 1, 2016 21:06
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Means I'll vote Green or Socialist for POTUS (and anything else they're running for) and D for the rest. I haven't missed an election since I was able to vote in 2000.
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Mar 1, 2016 21:30
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TyrantWD posted:This is a pretty stunning level of cognitive dissonance. The only victims when we "burn it all down" will be the poor and middle class. Pillow Hat posted:People saying they would vote for Bernie but not Hillary seem like they don't recognize the importance of SCOTUS. It is so myopic. The SC bogeyman doesn't work anymore. You're a tribal sucker for your team if you still think the Democratic establishment has the interests of the poor in mind.
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Mar 1, 2016 22:07
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pwn posted:That said Bernie will win the nomination, so this is a non-issue. I can't tell if this is an obvious troll or what. I love Bernie and if I had my druthers he'd be the nominee, but it's not going to happen. Period. And as far as finding a conservative to replace Scalia, I don't really know what you're talking about. If you're referring to the fact that Sandoval was being vetted, I really don't buy into it. I don't doubt that they were in the process of vetting him but I seriously have a hard time imagining Obama nominating him. And more to the point, SCOTUS matters for more than economic justice, not to say that that's not important. Having a pro-choice majority on the court could change the course of that entire argument among some other things. And to be clear, I'm not a Democrat. Edit: By the way, Obama's SC appointments have been successful on the whole. I haven't agreed with every decision they've made, but then the same is true of basically anyone in any public office.
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Mar 1, 2016 22:17
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Pillow Hat posted:There will be at least two SCOTUS appointments by the next president regardless of what happens with Scalia's seat.  *The law only went into effect last year after being suspended during the financial crisis. Thank god that's over whew Edit Pillow Hat posted:I can't tell if this is an obvious troll or what. I love Bernie and if I had my druthers he'd be the nominee, but it's not going to happen. Period. pwn fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Mar 1, 2016 22:17
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Krowley posted:Why isn't Obama gonna nominate a new guy for that? It is but it's enough of an explanation for Senate majority to declare they aren't even going to consider any nomination. It's all very childish but to be fair the Dems have tried almost the exact same strategy in the past.
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Mar 1, 2016 22:18
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pwn posted:Here in Wisconsin, you can no longer get food stamps if you're unemployed (and not disabled or a single mother.) I sure was ready to believe it was the fault of the POS Republicans who came into power in 2010, but nope! It was the Democratic-controlled 2007 Senate* what made my miserable existence even more gruelling! What you are saying is awful I agree, but it is not at odds with anything I said.
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Mar 1, 2016 22:19
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Pillow Hat posted:What you are saying is awful I agree, but it is not at odds with anything I said. Edit: Sorry, misread your post, don't worry I'm not staying home in the alternate universe timeline where Bernie's not on the ballot in November. pwn fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Mar 1, 2016 22:22
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jfc we all need to learn to read better. Something I misread caused me to say something you misread. Quick, someone respond to the above post without reading carefully!
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Mar 1, 2016 22:26
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I know words. I have the best words.
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Mar 1, 2016 22:34
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pwn posted:Here in Wisconsin, you can no longer get food stamps if you're unemployed (and not disabled or a single mother.) I sure was ready to believe it was the fault of the POS Republicans who came into power in 2010, but nope! It was the Democratic-controlled 2007 Senate* what made my miserable existence even more gruelling! Now now, the republicans know what it's like to be poor, just do what Mittens did when he was poor and in college, sell some of your stocks. Or ask your dad for a modest mutli-million dollar loan. You'll pay it back.
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Mar 1, 2016 22:36
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Pillow Hat posted:People saying they would vote for Bernie but not Hillary seem like they don't recognize the importance of SCOTUS. It is so myopic. hillary clinton stopped haiti from raising their minimum wage to 61 cents an hour. shes straight up evil
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Mar 1, 2016 22:45
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Terror Sweat posted:hillary clinton stopped haiti from raising their minimum wage to 61 cents an hour. shes straight up evil I do not like HRC. In fact, I really kinda fuckin' hate her. But the fact is that she voted the same as Bernie 93% of the time when she was a senator. She will not be The Worst Thing to ever happen to the White House, and I believe that although she may herself be a spineless say-anything used car saleswoman, she will be capable of nominating good justices. Just out of curiosity: Source on that claim about Haiti?
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Mar 1, 2016 23:20
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Pillow Hat posted:I do not like HRC. In fact, I really kinda fuckin' hate her. But the fact is that she voted the same as Bernie 93% of the time when she was a senator. She will not be The Worst Thing to ever happen to the White House, and I believe that although she may herself be a spineless say-anything used car saleswoman, she will be capable of nominating good justices. Really more Obama, but Hillary is pushing real hard to be Obama's 3rd term (Bush's 5th) so sure let her take credit too.
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Mar 1, 2016 23:30
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Pillow Hat posted:I do not like HRC. In fact, I really kinda fuckin' hate her. But the fact is that she voted the same as Bernie 93% of the time when she was a senator. She will not be The Worst Thing to ever happen to the White House, and I believe that although she may herself be a spineless say-anything used car saleswoman, she will be capable of nominating good justices. http://www.haiti-liberte.com/archives/volume4-47/Washington%20Backed%20Famous.asp heres a decent writeup about how the state department intervened in haiti
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What is it about British people that is just so naturally unfunny? John Oliver is the perfect embodiment of this.
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Harold Stassen posted:What is it about British people that is just so naturally unfunny? John Oliver is the perfect embodiment of this.
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Harold Stassen posted:What is it about British people that is just so naturally unfunny? John Oliver is the perfect embodiment of this. I agree. Not nearly enough fart jokes and cross dressing 
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Harold Stassen posted:What is it about British people that is just so naturally unfunny? John Oliver is the perfect embodiment of this. Well know unfunny group Monty Python and unfunny Eddie Izzard/Charlie Chaplin/ everyone on Blackadder
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