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Elyv posted:btw according to the flavor article the gitrog is literally hypnotoad Could've been something Sisters of Stone Death-ish, forcing creatures to attack/block into its deathtouch.
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mcmagic posted:It is. Can't help it though. Personality defect. My buddies and i were just talking about a guy at our LGS today Ray who is 100% spike. He can not have fun if he isn't winning. I'm glad I'm wired different because honestly that sounds awful.
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mcmagic posted:It is. Can't help it though. Personality defect. You know, I can totally sympathize with this, as a fellow hyper competitive person. I guess I've just lost so many games of magic over the past 20 years that it's taken most of the sting out of it.
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Is Gitrog Toad not the vanilla mythic Maro was talking about? Or am I misunderstanding the term "vanilla"?
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It must not be, its not remotely vanilla edit: At the beginning of your upkeep, you may discard your hand. If you do, draw that many cards. Uh, isn't this ridiculously good? Terrible Horse fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 16:53
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3U Creature - Zombie Rare Skulk At the beginning of your upkeep, you may discard your hand. If you do, draw that many cards. 
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mcmagic posted:It is. Can't help it though. Personality defect. How do you feel about results-oriented thinking?
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Mar 23, 2016 16:55
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Count Bleck posted:We can't give not-blue Mind Control effects, that would be unfair to blue. black gets Mind Control Effects very rarely tho, I think "literal Hypnotoad" is a good reason to use it this time
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Mar 23, 2016 16:57
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Its followers are just really taken with the possible Life from the Loam combo and want to learn more.
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superstepa posted:Is Gitrog Toad not the vanilla mythic Maro was talking about? Or am I misunderstanding the term "vanilla"? Vanilla - No rules text, just stats. French Vanilla - Evergreen keywords only.
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Chill la Chill posted:How do you feel about results-oriented thinking? I don't think it's incompatible with anything I've said. Obviously even if you give yourself the best chance to win, you're not going to win all the time in a game with this much variance. Part of getting better at this game is trying to get beyond that. That doesn't mean that losing is ever going to be fun though.
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mandatory lesbian posted:I guess that's true. I wonder what they could create, current permanent types seem to encompass so much lol I was being facetious since it's some dumb common draft fodder, I have no fuckin clue why
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My friends who play and I are about 3 people short of being able to do 8 man cube drafts all the time at someones house. I think I'd stop going to the LGS if I could draft and drink a couple beers without paying $12. I like competing against people in games in general, no AI is going to offer a real challenge. I also like not twitch games because I'm poo poo at them, I don't have the reflexes for it. Magic is a great game but I can separate playing to win vs. having a good time if I'm losing. I'm happy to be playing a cool game with some buds.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Looks familiar: Would Memory Lapse be too good for Modern? I always liked that card. One of the few cool things to come out of Homelands.
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mcmagic posted:I don't think it's incompatible with anything I've said. Obviously even if you give yourself the best chance to win, you're not going to win all the time in a game with this much variance. Part of getting better at this game is trying to get beyond that. That doesn't mean that losing is ever going to be fun though. If you play to have fun, you never lose.
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Being competitive doesn't mean being unhappy if you aren't winning, it just means you enjoy yourself most when you are trying to win. And that means disregarding the vast majority of cards in each set because they are Bad For Winning
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Isn't the green vessel just better than the blue vessel, barring extremely unlucky misses and the rare case of targeting your opponent? With the green vessel you get a better than average card and 3 cards in the grave that you get a small amount of selection over. With the blue one you get a random card and 3 random cards in the grave. The green one even seems to have a cost that curves better.
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Cactrot posted:If you play to have fun, you never lose. 
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Isn't the green vessel just better than the blue vessel, barring extremely unlucky misses and the rare case of targeting your opponent? With the green vessel you get a better than average card and 3 cards in the grave that you get a small amount of selection over. With the blue one you get a random card and 3 random cards in the grave. The green one even seems to have a cost that curves better. The blue one can be used to help mill out your opponent, if that's a thing. Which it could be.
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A big flaming stink posted:Being competitive doesn't mean being unhappy if you aren't winning, it just means you enjoy yourself most when you are trying to win. And that means disregarding the vast majority of cards in each set because they are Bad For Winning Yeah. I'm not unhappy if I don't win and I gave myself the best chance to win. I just didn't have fun. It's not the same thing.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Isn't the green vessel just better than the blue vessel, barring extremely unlucky misses and the rare case of targeting your opponent? With the green vessel you get a better than average card and 3 cards in the grave that you get a small amount of selection over. With the blue one you get a random card and 3 random cards in the grave. The green one even seems to have a cost that curves better. Secret blue mill deck in limited.
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If lots of limited decks are trying to self-mill themselves to turn on Delirium, a mill deck that says "you want cards in your graveyard? OK have ALL the cards in your graveyard" could actually be good if there's the cards for it. It needs a few creatures that mill though, sitting there casting enchantments while they're hitting you with creatures is a race you're unlikely to win.
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Mar 23, 2016 17:12
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Rinkles posted:3U Ok, here's a creature with a powerful enough ability that it would be worth discussing in modern despite having 4 cmc. Except you have to untap with it and it is cursed with the dread 3 toughness.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Isn't the green vessel just better than the blue vessel, barring extremely unlucky misses and the rare case of targeting your opponent? With the green vessel you get a better than average card and 3 cards in the grave that you get a small amount of selection over. With the blue one you get a random card and 3 random cards in the grave. The green one even seems to have a cost that curves better. I'm just saying green vessel could be played in Rock to have an easy enchantment to put into play 
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UberJew posted:Ok, here's a creature with a powerful enough ability that it would be worth discussing in modern despite having 4 cmc. Except you have to untap with it and it is cursed with the dread 3 toughness. It's also a pretty miserable top deck... And the zombie deck is going to have a pretty low curve so even if you can slam this on T4 you might not more than 1-2 cards in hand.
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Rinkles posted:3U Sphinx's Tutelage just got interesting again.
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Entropic posted:If lots of limited decks are trying to self-mill themselves to turn on Delirium, a mill deck that says "you want cards in your graveyard? OK have ALL the cards in your graveyard" could actually be good if there's the cards for it. It needs a few creatures that mill though, sitting there casting enchantments while they're hitting you with creatures is a race you're unlikely to win.  An uncommon creature, a common enchantment, a bomb rare. Plenty of the set left to be spoiled. I'm jacing a serious clue about mill being a limited theme here.
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I hate this card.
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Entropic posted:If lots of limited decks are trying to self-mill themselves to turn on Delirium, a mill deck that says "you want cards in your graveyard? OK have ALL the cards in your graveyard" could actually be good if there's the cards for it. It needs a few creatures that mill though, sitting there casting enchantments while they're hitting you with creatures is a race you're unlikely to win. I mean, the thing about Delirium as opposed to flashback is that once it's active, you don't really benefit from getting any more cards in the graveyard
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Mar 23, 2016 17:19
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It does suck a bit since the other members of that cycle are decent to good.
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Kraus posted:It's a contradiction in terms. If it's not on the battlefield, it's not a permanent. It's not a permanent, but it's a permanent card. For example, in literally the most recent block, you'll find this rules text:  mandatory lesbian posted:why doesn't this just say "Permanent Card" instead of listing them out? Cards that refer to "permanent cards" almost all provide a way of putting them onto the battlefield; they probably don't like using that rules templating when "can this be put onto the battlefield?" isn't the crucial question because it tends to make ill-informed pedants upset that they're calling cards permanents when they're not on the battlefield. The only exceptions I can find are Nature's Spiral and Verdant Confluence, which both return permanent cards from your graveyard to your hand.
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I wonder if we'll get a Cremate / Beckon Apparition / Crypt Creeper type card for turning off Delirium at instant speed.
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jassi007 posted:My buddies and i were just talking about a guy at our LGS today Ray who is 100% spike. He can not have fun if he isn't winning. I'm glad I'm wired different because honestly that sounds awful. I don't even have fun when I win!
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It's not a permanent, but it's a permanent card. For example, in literally the most recent block, you'll find this rules text: I stand corrected.
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Snacksmaniac posted:I don't even have fun when I win! "If you have fun playing this game you clearly aren't ready to be an actual tournament player, scrub." -mcmagic
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Nibble posted:Could've been something Sisters of Stone Death-ish, forcing creatures to attack/block into its deathtouch. the card is super cool so I don't really mind but maybe they should have flavored it differently in the article
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I've been flirting with shifting my modern loam deck from bgrw to bgru and some of these SoI cards are making it more tempting. An old card that's been tempting me into blue is trade routes. However, I'd lose the front side of lingering souls, path to exile and knight of the reliquary. I think I'll work up a list for testing...
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Isn't the green vessel just better than the blue vessel, barring extremely unlucky misses and the rare case of targeting your opponent? With the green vessel you get a better than average card and 3 cards in the grave that you get a small amount of selection over. With the blue one you get a random card and 3 random cards in the grave. The green one even seems to have a cost that curves better. But it makes sense, doesn't it? Green is the color of card drawing and filtering after all.
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