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Tollymain posted:having more than 1 leper is definitely looking more and more like a mistake, even with a roster size of 28. i could have another plague doctor in that slot. less disease more cure It's not necessarily a great setup for bosses, but otherwise it can be pretty effective so long as you pair them with some folks who can hit the back row.
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i want to like the leper, really i do but having one around is enough, i think
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Mar 28, 2016 07:05
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Lepers blow in DD1 and DD3 but they're really really good in DD2 and in champion level dungeons in general
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Mar 28, 2016 08:17
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Dual lepers own bones against the Necromancer, the X Pounder, and the Big Pig.
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Mar 28, 2016 11:16
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A.o.D. posted:It's a metaphor for passing up a shot at a free -quirk removal. Without fail, I have always had it cause stress to someone when I use it normally, so now I just drench the things to at least get some benefit out of it. If I want negative quirk removal, I go to the cove or warrens.
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Mar 28, 2016 11:36
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You only need one Leper because Miron is fat enough to count as a full party of them.
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Mar 29, 2016 00:34
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Probe 17 posted:You only need one Leper because Miron is fat enough to count as a full party of them. I know you're lying, because Miron is never full.
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Mar 29, 2016 00:41
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who's miron
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Mar 29, 2016 00:45
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Tollymain posted:who's miron someone had two Lepers show up on the Stagecoach both named Miron. Hence lots of jokes about a fat Leper named Miron.
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Mar 29, 2016 00:50
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miron is the inventor of Jet and if you have a high enough Science skill you can get him to invent a cure for jet addiction. Also he's a date rapist
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:miron is the inventor of Jet and if you have a high enough Science skill you can get him to invent a cure for jet addiction. Also he's a date rapist that can't be the same miron because miron so fat his paunch runs over his dick
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Mar 29, 2016 02:15
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:miron is the inventor of Jet and if you have a high enough Science skill you can get him to invent a cure for jet addiction. Also he's a date rapist Pretty hosed up if you ask me
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Mar 29, 2016 05:37
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Mirion is my backer-created original character and if you do no stop making fun of him i will petition Red Hook to change brigand gunners back to their early beta damage spread
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Mar 29, 2016 06:21
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paranoid randroid posted:Mirion is my backer-created original character and if you do no stop making fun of him i will petition Red Hook to change brigand gunners back to their early beta damage spread mirion so fat he absorbs blanket fire
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Mar 29, 2016 06:49
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Miron so fat when the Hag puts him in the pot, next turn there's no more stew to taste
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Mar 29, 2016 06:58
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Miron so fat, the Fasting Seal only takes him down to +500% food consumption.
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Mar 29, 2016 07:06
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mirons so fat he couldnt run a joke into the ground he couldnt run due to his fatness you see
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Mar 29, 2016 07:14
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Afraid of Audio posted:mirons so fat he couldnt run a joke into the ground I got it. Good joke comrade. Miron so fat you need to upgrade your stage coach to level six for him to arrive.
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Mar 29, 2016 07:17
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Miron so fat Wilbur marks targets for him
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Miron so fat he sank the drowned crew
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Mar 29, 2016 08:07
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He diet take up all six sanitarium cells No, but seriously: Does it pay off to take an Antiquarian? It bums me out that it's so poor at anything but loot generation.
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Mar 29, 2016 08:34
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Afraid of Audio posted:mirons so fat he couldnt run a joke into the ground They stopped being funny long before the first round finished guys, all the good ones have been done already.
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Mar 29, 2016 08:34
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Wafflecopper posted:They stopped being funny long before the first round finished guys, all the good ones have been done already. Miron so fat he made you into just copper
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Mar 29, 2016 08:38
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Tias posted:
Comedy answer: take one to fight the Siren and douse everyone with holy water except the antiquarian. Enemies just love targeting the guy with the lowest resistance, and if the scaly tart is gonna steal a party member anyway might as well give them the one with gently caress-all for damage output. 
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Mar 29, 2016 09:18
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Tias posted:He diet take up all six sanitarium cells She feels like she comes into her own around midgame. Imagine whatever week you are breaking into Champion, lets call this midgame. She is really good at making the green (seeker level) runs profitable and maximising your bag space. If you have effectively mastered the low level stuff, then the Antiquarian can help you really fund your Veterans. Also team "Ladysman" is hilarious. Arbellest-Vestal-Antiq-Highwayman. The antiqarian spams Get Down, has stab for finishing, dodge buff for when she is shuffled, and healing for DD. Highway does the dashing cycle, with the reliability of the Vestal and Arb this team is rock solid. It doesnt stun or mitigate damage enough for Yellow runs, but thats not what the Antiquarian is for.
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I like putting an antiquarian in the front of a party with the Highwayman in rank 2. It seems that Highwayman's riposte skill is far better than the MAA's, and when you combine his natural dodge with repeated applications of the Antiquarian's guard me skill, you end up with a surprisingly sturdy front row tank(+50% dodge is very attainable late game). The damage output from Dismas is pretty good, what with the multiple counters every turn, and the point blank shot every other turn. You just have to make sure that one of your back row characters has a destroy corpse skill to keep the front loaded with targets. Another nice thing is that it works in all light levels, and even against shuffle enemies.
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The main problem with Antiquarian is that she doesn't scale. Her loot generation is naturally superior in Apprentice dungeons because they're easier and she gets the same results regardless. The chance of a Rare Antique doesn't go up with dungeon difficulty (it easily could be modded to, but it doesn't), you don't get more Minor Antiques in harder fights, so the sole reason to take an Antiquarian to a later dungeon is because she lets you stack more of the gold that you find, but you can find plenty in Apprentice/Veteran Longs. Her abilities become the sole reason to use her, and Protect Me! is the only one that's maybe a legitimately good skill. Basically Antiquarians level themselves into obsolescence, which strikes me as weird. They're vastly more valuable the lower their level. I expected different tiers of antiques or something, since loot tables scale with difficulty, but the special Antiquarian one doesn't.
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Nakar posted:The main problem with Antiquarian is that she doesn't scale. Her loot generation is naturally superior in Apprentice dungeons because they're easier and she gets the same results regardless. The chance of a Rare Antique doesn't go up with dungeon difficulty (it easily could be modded to, but it doesn't), you don't get more Minor Antiques in harder fights, so the sole reason to take an Antiquarian to a later dungeon is because she lets you stack more of the gold that you find, but you can find plenty in Apprentice/Veteran Longs. Her abilities become the sole reason to use her, and Protect Me! is the only one that's maybe a legitimately good skill. The increased gold stack size does get more useful at higher levels, since you're accumulating more gold to begin with. But yeah, for a variety of reasons she's vastly more useful at apprentice than at champion.
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well i guess by that point you can fire her and hire an actual fighter to take into the darkest dungeon besides gold isn't so much of a constraint once you get to Champion
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I could actually see bringing an Antiquarian to DD1 or DD2. Protect Me! + Duelist's Advance would do well against the DD1 boss, and she can be the non-torch character and just pick someone to eat Revelation for her, so you wouldn't need to bring a MaA for the role. Also DD1 is lousy with bleeds and she has a cheap camp skill that buffs resistance to it, which could be good with a Leper using Bloody Shroud or somesuch. Maybe not ideal, and I wouldn't bring her to DD3 due to a lack of stuns and DPS, but if I were speedrunning and happened to have an Antiquarian built up I think she could pull her weight.
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Do Antiquarian trinket generation scale? What determines how good a trinket the skill generates? Also, sometimes my characters start a quest with odd debuffs, such as a survived death's door mark or -4 to speed until end of quest. Where do these come from, and how do I get rid of them?
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Nakar posted:Basically Antiquarians level themselves into obsolescence, which strikes me as weird. They're vastly more valuable the lower their level. I expected different tiers of antiques or something, since loot tables scale with difficulty, but the special Antiquarian one doesn't. I was afraid this would be the case. As it is there's really no reason to ever waste money on her weapons or more than a level of armor & skills, because she'll be negatively profitable if you try to use her long-term. AnonSpore posted:Miron so fat when the Hag puts him in the pot, next turn there's no more stew to taste This is my favorite one in a while.
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Tias posted:Also, sometimes my characters start a quest with odd debuffs, such as a survived death's door mark or -4 to speed until end of quest. Where do these come from, and how do I get rid of them?
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Mar 29, 2016 18:31
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Tias posted:Do Antiquarian trinket generation scale? What determines how good a trinket the skill generates? The best way to abuse that is probably to take 4 Antiquarians into a Long dungeon, camp twice, and leave with 8 trinkets.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:36
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Everything Miron related was worth it for this.abardam posted:you guys are mean Could anyone avatar size this?
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Mar 29, 2016 19:16
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Everything Miron related was worth it for this. 
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Mar 29, 2016 20:13
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FreeKillB posted:I think some of these are debuffs that are generated when doing abbey/tavern stress recovery. I don't think there's any way to remove them other than going on a dungeon run and eating the penalty though. oooh of course  Thanks!
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Mar 29, 2016 20:24
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What started this mirion joke anyway? It feels like it just showed up in the thread one day.
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Mar 29, 2016 20:30
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It started with a screenshot.Crasical posted:
Then Captain Invictus posted this. Captain Invictus posted:When miron sits around the cart, he sits AROUND the cart After that people just ran with it.
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I want to buy this game, but I'm a little concerned about some reviews of grindiness and a brutal RNG. I enjoy and have enjoyed games like Crawl, ToME, and other roguelikes with permadeath so the whimsical fuckery of an RNG doesn't bother me much, but if its constant and terrible that is kind of a downer. Also, could my XPS 13 (2015) handle it?
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