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Kai Tave posted:Do people really injure themselves on the corners of regular card sleeves? Can we define injury as saying "ouch" and then the pain goes away?
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Some middle aged balding man sitting down to play some Dominion, goes to shuffle his sleeved cards and slits his loving wrists open, blood just gushing everywhere "There's GOT to be a better way!"
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Kai Tave posted:Do people really injure themselves on the corners of regular card sleeves? People are really concerned about corners of die cut counters, so maybe?
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Mar 29, 2016 07:25
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gradenko_2000 posted:People are really concerned about corners of die cut counters, so maybe? Die-cut counters are slightly different as you're constantly picking them up and the most convenient way to do it is by the corner. You hold cards by the edge and they're large enough to slide off the deck from the top, so the issue of corners digging into your hands all day never arises. These stupid things are going to split the first time you shuffle with them. Rounding the corner creates a flap at the top of the sleeve. It's both a natural trap for other cards and a structural weak point. The flap is also going to be much more prone to bending and deforming than a regular sleeve corner because it's a single thickness with no support. Anyone who buys these is wasting their money.
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Mar 29, 2016 07:59
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Kai Tave posted:Do people really injure themselves on the corners of regular card sleeves? I find them really uncomfortable.
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Mar 29, 2016 13:30
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Merauder posted:Roxley (the company behind Steampunk Rally and Super Motherload) have a new campaign up today for a re-imagining of Santorini that looks goddamn gorgeous, if you're into abstract strategy games. Really excited to try this one myself. Demeter is adorable and Aphrodite looks like Natalie Dormer. Does feel weird to pay extra to have the game on a plastic cliff with no gameplay use, but I guess you'll be the only kid on your block with a game on a plastic cliff.
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Mar 29, 2016 14:19
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rchandra posted:Can we define injury as saying "ouch" and then the pain goes away? If so, I totally have done this. Edit: oops, two in a row. Sorry.
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Mar 29, 2016 14:19
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signalnoise posted:I find them really uncomfortable. Same, but less so. If I played tcgs, I might consider it if I saw it in a store since they're priced at $3 or 4 for 100, but because of shipping, it's a little exorbitant. Using the KS as a means to buy their games otoh isn't necessarily a bad idea.
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Mar 29, 2016 17:34
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Hoo boy.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:10
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You'd be stupid NOT to back at the $10,000 level!!!
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Mar 29, 2016 18:28
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Man, I can't wait to hang out in those Poser renders.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:30
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I'm not seeing a Yiffatorium in these plans
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Mar 29, 2016 18:37
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ADA ACCESSIBLE! *fills building with bar height tables and counters*
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Mar 29, 2016 18:39
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So, a gym-style dedicated community area for nerds could work. It would be a hard business model, given that gamers have gaming stores to use as a free alternative, but if you market it right I could see it possibly doing well. Of course, you'd need a few things that this pitch is absolutely missing 1) A way to make money off of it. Even if you're motivated by a love for the community rather than any profit, there will be bills to pay and repairs to make and supplies to fill. There's no mention of a subscription fee or tickets or any sort of income other than a cafe (which probably can't pay for a huge center by itself) 2) A solid community base. They plan to start in Arlington, Texas. Is that a huge area for nerds? I haven't heard either way, but why aren't they starting somewhere that already has a big convention base? 3) Actual plans and costs. They've got poser (or some other basic 3d modeling tool) mockups, but that's really just a concept. Do they have an architect's plans drawn up for this? A construction company's quote? They list november as a delivery date, I really hope that's just a placeholder. 4) Investors. 8 people have backed so far at about 165 dollars each, which is clearly just their circle of friends who are on board with the idea. There's no way that Kickstarter will raise 2 million dollars for a single building in Texas with basically no rewards being offered. They talked about Shark Tank in one of their updates, but they have no chance in hell there. One minute into the pitch, someone will ask "How do you plan to make money here?" and they will be shot down unless they have way better plans than are listed on the kickstarter. EDIT: Just checked. Arlington has a population of less than 400,000 people. It's a half hour drive from Dallas, which is right at that threshold of inconvenience that a lot of people wouldn't be happy to make the trip often. I hope I'm missing something here as someone as far from Texas as you can get in the continental US. Kaza42 fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 18:41
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If they really do want to put all that stuff in one building, that building is going to be huge. And yeah, I suppose a million and change dollars can do that, but the operating costs are going to be pretty ridiculous. The whole thing is such a "man, if I ever win the Powerball..." pipe dream. I mean...three theaters, two of which are "specifically for anime"? Full cafe? Free wifi? Secure, private outdoor area? How the hell is this supposed to sustain itself? fake edit: holy poo poo I just read the goal breakdown; there is no cash buffer for when things go wrong. It's just as well she's never going to even get close to goal.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:48
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The project creator's bio is truly where this gets insane. That's someone's grandma.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:50
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Maybe not calling it OTAKU HOUSE would be a good first step. I can see potential in the idea, but it would have to grow significantly, and fast. Maybe like a series of clubs around the world, and membership allows you access to any of them. Membership fees and income generated from food/drinks are the only way I can see them turning any sort of profit, and it would have to be cost-effective for both the customer (to feel like he's getting his money's worth) and the owner. Definitely potential, but they need a solid business plan up there, not just some renders of rooms.
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Mar 29, 2016 20:50
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The_Doctor posted:Definitely potential There really, really isn't.
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Mar 29, 2016 20:56
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It's literally called house house
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Mar 29, 2016 21:11
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Kai Tave posted:There really, really isn't. Not at all - just based on the projected monthly costs of $2000 per month for the land lease, and $41000/mo for salary, you'd need a bare minimum of 430 people paying $100 per month for membership. This doesn't even count incidental expenses, supplies (nerd toilets don't clean themselves!,) contingency (who's going to pay when the AC goes out and you have a building full of sweaty nerds?,) and best of all, UTILITIES. Cooling a building full of people and PCs is not free. This person is a dum-dum and doesn't know the first thing about running a business. She wants a backyard clubhouse.
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Serious question, are LAN parties still even a thing? Now that halfway passable broadband internet is widespread and even consoles have made a big transition into online multiplayer, it seems to me that lugging your computer to someone's house so you can play deathmatch is kind of a weird thing to be talking about like your two million dollar crowdfunded nerd cafe is the answer people have been waiting for to this conundrum.
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Kai Tave posted:Serious question, are LAN parties still even a thing? Now that halfway passable broadband internet is widespread and even consoles have made a big transition into online multiplayer, it seems to me that lugging your computer to someone's house so you can play deathmatch is kind of a weird thing to be talking about like your two million dollar crowdfunded nerd cafe is the answer people have been waiting for to this conundrum.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Not at all - just based on the projected monthly costs of $2000 per month for the land lease, and $41000/mo for salary, you'd need a bare minimum of 430 people paying $100 per month for membership. And insurance, and taxes, and regulatory compliance, and advertising, and equipment maintenance and replacement.
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Evil Mastermind posted:They are at conventions; I know PAX East has a big LAN section every year. Of course, the LAN-ing is part of the overall larger convention, so people are there for other stuff too. Right, I kinda figured they had them at big gaming conventions, but in terms of "man I want to play some Rocket League with my friends" outside of conventions most people would probably rather just play from the comfort of their own homes. It's the same with things like tabletop RPGs, I'm aware that some folks do play at game stores and the like but I'm guessing that more people play at someone's home, so the question becomes why are people going to want to pay a membership fee to go and do this stuff at some sort of Dave & Busters knockoff?
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Agrias120 posted:You'd be stupid NOT to back at the $10,000 level!!! Only KS I've seen include transportation and lodging. So yeah, if you're going to back any KS at 10k, might as well be this one.
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Kai Tave posted:Right, I kinda figured they had them at big gaming conventions, but in terms of "man I want to play some Rocket League with my friends" outside of conventions most people would probably rather just play from the comfort of their own homes. It's the same with things like tabletop RPGs, I'm aware that some folks do play at game stores and the like but I'm guessing that more people play at someone's home, so the question becomes why are people going to want to pay a membership fee to go and do this stuff at some sort of Dave & Busters knockoff? I think the e-sports crowd are also into LANs for reduced latency.
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My circle of friends will have a LAN party once or twice a year at someone's house, just because there genuinely is something to be said for having everyone in the same room playing classic deathmatch and action games while screaming obscenities at someone physically near you instead of a mic. But we're all hardware nerds and live within 10 miles of each other, so different strokes and all that.
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Mar 29, 2016 21:36
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SilverMike posted:I think the e-sports crowd are also into LANs for reduced latency. That's totally what this place needs in addition to anime fans and furries, a bunch of MOBA players taking up the LAN station and shouting slurs at one another.
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How much you want to bet they're going to put the LAN center right next to the "quiet room" or one of the theaters?
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Evil Mastermind posted:How much you want to bet they're going to put the LAN center right next to the "quiet room" or one of the theaters? I will bet you $100 nonexistent dollars that they will not put the LAN center that will never exist right next to the quiet room that will never exist or one of the theaters that will never exist. Sure, why not.
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Mar 29, 2016 21:56
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Given its location, I am betting the whole thing will have that quiet room/library feel.
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Mar 29, 2016 22:00
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Don't forget the one (1) DnD table and one Warhammer table.
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Mar 29, 2016 22:08
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There's something like this already here in the Seattle area. http://www.vnw.club/membership/ Of course Seattle is crawling with rich nerds.
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I mean, there's Nerd Cafes and Boardgame Places. But they didn't build the building they're in.
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Bucnasti posted:There's something like this already here in the Seattle area. $750 yearly membership fee or a $35 fee at the door per visit, except one night per month when there's six hours without a cover charge. See, I can't tell if this is just me being contrary or thrifty or what, but I've got to say that I just don't personally see the appeal in paying to go game at an "exclusive" venue like this since they can't actually guarantee that the crowd in attendance is going to be any better than the crowd at whatever FLGS is nearby, and that's really the make-or-break for game night out. All the free snacks and fancy tables in the world aren't going to make paying money to play board games worth it if it's the same basic experience you could get for free elsewhere. Have you been there before? Is it worth it?
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Mar 29, 2016 22:54
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Bucnasti posted:There's something like this already here in the Seattle area. Of course it's in downtown Kirkland.
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Kai Tave posted:Have you been there before? Is it worth it? I've never been there, it doesn't seem worth it to me, but I'm a working class nerd. Also I live a few blocks from this place, http://www.moxboardinghouse.com/ which has tons of public game space, and several classy private rooms for gaming events. Like I said, Seattle is crawling with rich nerds, theres several more places like this around.
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Mar 29, 2016 23:31
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HEY I have a GOOD kickstarter to link! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179741323/post-apocalyptic-dwarf-bikers?ref=category_newest 
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Bucnasti posted:I've never been there, it doesn't seem worth it to me, but I'm a working class nerd. Also I live a few blocks from this place, http://www.moxboardinghouse.com/ which has tons of public game space, and several classy private rooms for gaming events. $160 to $320 to rent a private room for four hours? Noooooo thanks. edit; before someone says anything, this may in fact be an entirely reasonable price for renting private space out for functions, but I can't see dropping that sort of money all in order to go out somewhere and spend an evening playing RPGs. More than that sort of money since I've never once had an RPG evening that wrapped up cleanly in four hours. Kai Tave fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Leperflesh posted:I will bet you $100 nonexistent dollars that they will not put the LAN center that will never exist right next to the quiet room that will never exist or one of the theaters that will never exist. Sure, why not. It's a shame to take your imaginary money.  I mean, yeah there's no way this is ever going to happen, but if it miraculously did somehow you just know they'd put the loudest rooms next to the ones that want silence.
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