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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Die Hard, Lion King, Aladdin. I could watch those movies any time of day and be entertained. I loved all of these growing up, but when Aladdin came to VHS and I was 9 or 10, I watched it countless times. It is a bit different for kids today, our VHS collection was 20 movies and maybe half of that was anything a kid would want to watch, well before the age of streaming content. The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King were such an incredible run of animated musicals. Pixar had a fairly impressive run for a while but I'm not sure they were churning out back to back instant classics for about 5 years.
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Apr 3, 2016 18:44
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Marketing New Brain posted:I loved all of these growing up, but when Aladdin came to VHS and I was 9 or 10, I watched it countless times. It is a bit different for kids today, our VHS collection was 20 movies and maybe half of that was anything a kid would want to watch, well before the age of streaming content. Yeah there was a point when I was coming home from school and watching Aladdin 3 at least once a day for a month or two, or like two episodes of Ninja Turtles on a random tape.. I can't even imagine what it's like to be a small child with access to a Netflix account.
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Apr 3, 2016 18:49
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:That honestly describes ASM to me. Can't wait to see Peter Parker's origin story a billionth time. At least with Batman it's often regulated to a short little scene of the Waynes walking out of a movie theater and into an alley to get gunned down. Sam Raimi nailed the Spider-man origin story... they cannot and will not surpass that first movie. Wont the new one be set after Civil War, in which he's already a thing?
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Apr 3, 2016 18:56
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computer parts posted:According to the leaked emails Sony doesn't have merchandising rights so that might be what made them cancel everything. Marvel / Disney keeps a really tight hold on the merchandising rights and revenue. That's the primary cause of the heat between them and Fox -- Fox desperately wanted to get a toy line and other merchandise out for Days of Future Past, and Marvel told them to pound sand.
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Apr 3, 2016 18:58
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Steve2911 posted:Wont the new one be set after Civil War, in which he's already a thing? The movie starts with Aunt May out and about in New York doing her daily groceries. A shot rings out, and she falls to the ground. Cut to a scene shot over the shoulder of a mysterious man in red with Spider-man begging him for help. Joe Quesada cackles faintly. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Apr 3, 2016 19:00
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TheKingofSprings posted:The movie starts with Aunt May out and about in New York doing her daily groceries. I'm fine with this.
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Apr 3, 2016 19:02
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computer parts posted:According to the leaked emails Sony doesn't have merchandising rights so that might be what made them cancel everything. Disney bought back Sony's percentage of the merchandising a few years ago, while I think giving up it's percentage from the Spider-Man movies. Marvel is currently strangling X-Men and Fantastic Four merchandise since Fox gets a piece of the merchandise while Marvel gets a 5% or something like that from the movies. I'm not sure exactly what the deal is with Universal, who I think own solo movie rights to Hulk but not ensemble movie rights. Meanwhile Marvel gets all the merchandising money from every Marvel movie, just as Time Warner gets all the merchandising money off DC movies. So even if the in house movies don't make as much at the box office, the company supplements it with money from the merchandising. If I remember that article posted a while back, between merchandising and product placement Batman vs Superman only had to make a couple hundred million domestic to be in the black without any foreign box office, rental, TV, or DVD/Blu Ray profit. Excluding "Hollywood Math" where the movie is a giant financial hole unless it makes all the money and not even financial tricks can keep the studio from having to pay taxes on the profits. Gyges fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Apr 3, 2016 19:11
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Gyges posted:Disney bought back Sony's percentage of the merchandising a few years ago, while I think giving up it's percentage from the Spider-Man movies. Marvel is currently strangling X-Men and Fantastic Four merchandise since Fox gets a piece of the merchandise while Marvel gets a 5% or something like that from the movies. I'm not sure exactly what the deal is with Universal, who I think own solo movie rights to Hulk but not ensemble movie rights. I believe Universal only has distribution rights to any solo Hulk films. The Fox/Marvel merch deal is loving terrible. If memory serves Fox gets like 80% of anything film related and close to 50% of any FF and X toys because of some clause in the contracts that say the films bring heightened awareness to the properties.
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Apr 3, 2016 19:27
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Guy A. Person posted:poo poo's just weird honestly. The budget was 250 mil and it is going to clear 700 mil internationally over the weekend. That seems like a moderate success but at the same time if it totally bottoms out from here that puts it in roughly the same spot as ASM2 which was considered such a disappointment that Sony cancelled their franchise plans and went groveling to Marvel. Then obviously as people have said there's merchandising but I'm sure there were studio projections which it would still be super bad to miss by too much. I also don't know how marketing cost factors into all of this (is it included in budget traditionally?) Certainly missing expectations is still a huge deal when you are planning this to be a decades long franchise starter. The main problem here is that this notion of a 'franchise starter' is total bullshit. With Spiderman, the Sony people were vying to create a 'shared universe' around Andrew Garfield: Garfield's villains, Garfield's dad, Garfield's aunt, etc. There was this presumption that Garfield 2 would be a megahit, and enthusiasm for it would carry over into all these other projects. They bought into the 'franchise starter' concept, and it was a bad gamble. Dawn Of Justice doesn't do that. The franchise has already started with the Dark Knight films and Man Of Steel (which is, obviously, modeled after the Dark Knight films). In this context, Dawn Of Justice is a very minor film - which might seem like an odd thing to say, but there you there you have it. It's Dark Knight 5 or 6, depending on how you count these things. Wonder Woman's got hype and Suicide Squad's got Will Smith. They're going to do just fine. Now, if you go back and look at the Marvel Studios films, the 'franchise starter' was Iron Man 1, and they followed that up with the loving Hulk 2 (retroactively incorporating Ang Lee's Hulk in the process). So, line up the series: Hulk -> Iron Man -> Hulk 2 -> Iron Man 2 -> Thor -> Captain America. Dark Knight series -> Man Of Steel -> BVS -> Suicide Squad -> Wonder Woman -> Aquaman(?). In terms of its placement, Batman V Superman is the Hulk 2 of the 'DCU' - and is, obviously, both a better film and far more of a hit. And there's simply no way that Suicide Squad is worse than Iron Man 2. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Apr 3, 2016 19:44
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Rhyno posted:I believe Universal only has distribution rights to any solo Hulk films. The Fox/Marvel merch deal is loving terrible. If memory serves Fox gets like 80% of anything film related and close to 50% of any FF and X toys because of some clause in the contracts that say the films bring heightened awareness to the properties. I assume Fox are being colossal idiots and refusing to renegotiate the merchandising deal or any type of renegotiation.
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Apr 3, 2016 19:47
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Gyges posted:I assume Fox are being colossal idiots and refusing to renegotiate the merchandising deal or any type of renegotiation. I'd assume as much. I'd like to know if Deadpool falls into this because even prior to the film his poo poo was everywhere.
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Apr 3, 2016 19:50
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Suicide Squad could very well be absolute poo poo.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:Suicide Squad could very well be absolute poo poo. its gonna be win
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Apr 3, 2016 20:26
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I'm more excited for Suicide Squad then I've been for almost any super hero movie, I think.
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Apr 3, 2016 20:37
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Hmm.. I was really excited for the Nolan bat sequels and the promise of an Avengers movie as teased in the Iron Man post credits, and I was excited for GOTG as well. When I was a kid I was excited for all sorts of other crap too. Thanks for reading.
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Apr 3, 2016 20:39
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net cafe scandal posted:I'm more excited for Suicide Squad then I've been for almost any super hero movie, I think. Same. What confuses people is, I think, the gap between the narrative and the economic side of things: "Superman is fighting Batman, and they reference like eight other heroes and villains, so obviously this is the most important movie ever!" In actuality, they shoved all this viral marketing stuff into BVS because it's the unimportant one - guaranteed not to lose money. The studio let Snyder go hog wild with a hallucinogenic, three-hour R-rated director's cut based on his all-time favorite movie (1981's Excalibur). That's not what you do when your life depends on things. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Apr 3, 2016 20:54
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Honestly, I'd expect the Superman and Batman merchandising to cover the entire movie and marketing all on their own with money to spare. I think both of them together is over half a billion a year without movies and poo poo.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:06
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Gyges posted:Honestly, I'd expect the Superman and Batman merchandising to cover the entire movie and marketing all on their own with money to spare. I think both of them together is over half a billion a year without movies and poo poo. My tiny little comic book store has sold over $3500 worth of Batman and Superman stuff since the film opened. I would love to see the numbers of what Wal-mart is moving.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:10
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The main problem here is that this notion of a 'franchise starter' is total bullshit. This comparison is retarded and bad.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:11
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You think so? I think it's good.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:12
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I'm looking forward to Suicide Squad as well but mostly due to the second trailer and the rumor that they're doing reshoots to lighten the tone. These DC movies are so loving dour and self-serious it borders on parody. SuperMechagodzilla posted:In actuality, they shoved all this viral marketing stuff into BVS because it's the unimportant one - guaranteed not to lose money. The studio let Snyder go hog wild with a hallucinogenic, three-hour R-rated director's cut based on his all-time favorite movie (1981's Excalibur). That's not what you do when your life depends on things. Please fix some of these issues Directors Cut 
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Apr 3, 2016 21:17
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Nothing in the Incredible Hulk is connected to Hulk.
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Rhyno posted:Nothing in the Incredible Hulk is connected to Hulk. It...actually kind of works. Mostly how the one film ends the other begins They're not literally sequels but yeah
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Apr 3, 2016 21:22
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Burkion posted:It...actually kind of works. Not really, the opening credits pretty much disconnect IH from H by changing the origin.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:36
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Rhyno posted:Nothing in the Incredible Hulk is connected to Hulk. Well I mean they both have the Hulk, that seems like a pretty strong connection
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Apr 3, 2016 21:39
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loving babies with, "omg where's the funnnnnn"
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Apr 3, 2016 21:41
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Well I mean they both have the Hulk, that seems like a pretty strong connection Eh, one is a doughy giant baby. The other is roided to hell and back. If audiences can understand different Spider-men they can understand different Hulks.
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Apr 3, 2016 21:42
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Vintersorg posted:loving babies with, "omg where's the funnnnnn" Are you a bad enough dude to like Zach Snyder movies?
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Apr 3, 2016 21:58
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Yaws posted:I'm looking forward to Suicide Squad as well but mostly due to the second trailer and the rumor that they're doing reshoots to lighten the tone. These DC movies are so loving dour and self-serious it borders on parody. I'm in the exact opposite boat. As far as I can tell, Suicide Squad is already hilarious, being that it features a crocodile man, swamp witch, katana-using street samurai literally named "Katana", etc. The actual quippy dialogue was probably the most grating and least funny part of the trailers I've seen.
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Apr 3, 2016 22:03
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Ferrinus posted:I'm in the exact opposite boat. As far as I can tell, Suicide Squad is already hilarious, being that it features a crocodile man, swamp witch, katana-using street samurai literally named "Katana", etc. The actual quippy dialogue was probably the most grating and least funny part of the trailers I've seen. Yeah, Harley's dialog is awful, while boomerang drinking his beer is actually funny.
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Apr 3, 2016 22:15
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I suspect BvS underperforming is going to cause Suicide Squad to also not do well.
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Yaws posted:I'm looking forward to Suicide Squad as well but mostly due to the second trailer and the rumor that they're doing reshoots to lighten the tone. It's already been confirmed by multiple cast members that this isn't happening.
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Yaws posted:I'm looking forward to Suicide Squad as well but mostly due to the second trailer and the rumor that they're doing reshoots to lighten the tone. These DC movies are so loving dour and self-serious it borders on parody.: What's wrong with a movie taking itself seriously?
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Apr 3, 2016 22:24
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, Harley's dialog is awful, while boomerang drinking his beer is actually funny. The worse Harley's dialogue is, the happier I'll be. If they can work an honest to god "Mistah Jay" in there I'll piss in my seat.
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Apr 3, 2016 22:24
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HorseRenoir posted:It's already been confirmed by multiple cast members that this isn't happening. Noooo Hope dashed
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Apr 3, 2016 22:28
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Vintersorg posted:loving babies with, "omg where's the funnnnnn" yeah who needs fun in a comic book movie
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Apr 3, 2016 22:30
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Hat Thoughts posted:What's wrong with a movie taking itself seriously? It makes the audience feel bad about themselves when characters react to the destruction of an entire city with shock and horror rather than laughing it off with shawarma jokes. Mass murder via alien invasion should be a fun time for the whole family.
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Apr 3, 2016 22:31
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Daredevil series 1 does the 'reaction to destruction caused by heriocs' thing well while being both lighthearted and self serious at the same time.
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HIJK posted:It makes the audience feel bad about themselves when characters react to the destruction of an entire city with shock and horror rather than laughing it off with shawarma jokes. Mass murder via alien invasion should be a fun time for the whole family.
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