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Rurea posted:Same thing but with bow and arrows A bow flew through his window while he was trying to figure out how to fight crime?
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The original thing of Clint Barton being a skirt chasing carny who gave up his life of crime because he was inspired by Captain America was really good characterization. Stan Lee's dialog was clunky as hell but he had very clear ideas for characters.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The original thing of Clint Barton being a skirt chasing carny who gave up his life of crime because he was inspired by Captain America was really good characterization. Stan Lee's dialog was clunky as hell but he had very clear ideas for characters. That does sound entertaining. And, yeah, I figured there'd be something like this, but to put it mildly, I don't think it comes across in the films in the character. As compared to, since Batman has been brought up, the bat demon that shows up in Batman Begins and Batman v Superman.
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Apr 6, 2016 00:36
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A hawk snatched his cat when he was a young boy and scarred him forever.
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Sir Kodiak posted:That does sound entertaining. And, yeah, I figured there'd be something like this, but to put it mildly, I don't think it comes across in the films in the character. As compared to, since Batman has been brought up, the bat demon that shows up in Batman Begins and Batman v Superman. Now this makes me want to rewatch the animated Batman: Year One again. I liked its depiction of Bruce being inspired by the bat.
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I actually like the idea that anyone who's proficient with a stupid weapon gets to be an Avenger. It's very 'Mystery Men'. Like, there's only one or two actual superheroes in the world, so they've resorted to bringing in some person with taser wristbands.
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Sir Kodiak posted:That does sound entertaining. And, yeah, I figured there'd be something like this, but to put it mildly, I don't think it comes across in the films in the character. As compared to, since Batman has been brought up, the bat demon that shows up in Batman Begins and Batman v Superman. Oh yeah, he's a total noncharacter in the movies. His character is former SHIELD employee who later becomes a Stark employee, to the point where the film takes a long break to show him having his boss over for a picnic.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I actually like the idea that anyone who's proficient with a stupid weapon gets to be an Avenger. It's very 'Mystery Men'. And a dude with robot wings.
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Rurea posted:And a dude with robot wings. He also has goggles. Don't downplay the Falcon.
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In the new one he has a robot bird sidekick too.
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Whizbang posted:In the new one he has a robot bird sidekick too. American Flag Soldier Man's sidekick is Drone Operator Man. Makes sense.
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I liked that Hawkeye was basically Bullseye in the Ultimate universe, it was just surrounded by poo poo writing. I also liked Bullseye in the Daredevil movie and thought that he + Kingpin were two of the most entertaining villains in Marvel movies that weren't Magneto.
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Yeah, I thought Colin Farrell was a lot of fun as Bullseye.SuperMechagodzilla posted:I actually like the idea that anyone who's proficient with a stupid weapon gets to be an Avenger. It's very 'Mystery Men'. That part is is fun, though, of course, in Mystery Men, the Shoveler actually gets some dialog about what it means for him to use a shovel, how it aligns him with ordinary people who are "super good at their jobs but never get any credit."
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Sir Kodiak posted:That part is is fun, though, of course, in Mystery Men, the Shoveler actually gets some dialog about what it means for him to use a shovel, how it aligns him with ordinary people who are "super good at their jobs but never get any credit." Oh absolutely. The thing to always keep in mind is that the Avengers are a supervillian team. Like, they literally have a dude named "WAR MACHINE" now. They're the bad guys.
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greatn posted:The shield stuff is the worst part of Thor, and that takes place on earth. Him being a general idiot on earth is fine though. The Shield stuff also contains Thor drop-kicking and then mud-wrestling a dude so it's actually the best part. It's a god reduced to the basest form of entertainment.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Oh absolutely. The thing to always keep in mind is that the Avengers are a supervillian team. All superheroes are "war machines"
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Elfgames posted:All superheroes are "war machines" For the period between 1946 and 1985, I don't think any superhero was a war machine. Certainly not many of them.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Oh absolutely. The thing to always keep in mind is that the Avengers are a supervillian team.
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Kurzon posted:What yardstick are you using? They have a guy called "War Machine", pay attention!
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Kurzon posted:What yardstick are you using? Captain America represents America, the most villainous country of them all.
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Grendels Dad posted:The Shield stuff also contains Thor drop-kicking and then mud-wrestling a dude so it's actually the best part. It's a god reduced to the basest form of entertainment. That guy should be an Avenger. OK maybe a great lakes Avenger.
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Grendels Dad posted:They have a guy called "War Machine", pay attention! Actually he's called Iron Patriot.
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Whizbang posted:Actually he's called Iron Patriot. I'm pretty sure by AoU he's back to War Machine again. He should have gone for something entirely different though, I like it when superheroes have like five different names in their CV. I suggest Terror Device, that sounds wholesome.
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Personified Drone.
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Wedding Bomber.
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Extrajudicial Murder. Wait, that's all of them.
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Those aren't comic book enough. It should be something obvious and slightly racist, like Afrobot.
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If Captain America was black when first created, I suspect he wouldn't be a captain.
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Electromax posted:Captain America represents America, the most villainous country of them all.
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Kurzon posted:But he's from WW2, the last time everyone agreed America did the right thing! What's super-funny about this to me is they still had to make his WW2 enemies Double-Nazis.
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The MSJ posted:If Captain America was black when first created, I suspect he wouldn't be a captain. The comics did that already.
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broken clock opsec posted:What's super-funny about this to me is they still had to make his WW2 enemies Double-Nazis.
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broken clock opsec posted:What's super-funny about this to me is they still had to make his WW2 enemies Double-Nazis. Who knows why they made the decisions they did at Marvel back in the 70s. At least the Daredevil show hasn't yet done the comic bit where the Hand ninjas are also Hydras. The movies also seemingly dropped the "AIM is Hydra's scientists" connection in Iron Man 3. There's still a lot of Hydra even in the movies though.
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Interesting read http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-mulls-releasing-films-881265 quote:Several sources say Warner Bros. executives were convinced they had the goods with BvS and were shocked when negative reviews began pouring in. Now, with DC movies dated through 2020, the outcome has led to a flurry of rumors that the studio will make adjustments — maybe add a new producer? — rather than allow BvS director Zack Snyder to proceed with the two-part Justice League. But sources with firsthand knowledge of the situation say the studio has no such plans. One says the filmmakers naturally will evaluate what went wrong with BvS, but when it comes to Justice League, "we're not going to take a movie that's supposed to be one thing and turn it into a copycat of something else."
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There's no way they're going to make a move with Snyder, regardless of what critics are saying. This movie is going to make 800+ million dollars, and Snyder is already knee deep in Justice League stuff. To take him out and bring in another director mid-stream would be an even bigger potential disaster.
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Electromax posted:At least the Daredevil show hasn't yet done the comic bit where the Hand ninjas are also Hydras. Well, Daredevil does show that the Hand has connections to Roxxon which, as we saw in Agent Carter, is closely tied to HYDRA at least as far back as 1946, so...
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broken clock opsec posted:What's super-funny about this to me is they still had to make his WW2 enemies Double-Nazis. Let's say Hydra.
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Oh Wonder Woman is pushed up two weeks and two new untitled DC films are added to the slate quote:In DC cinematic universe news, Wonder Woman, which will star Gal Gadot (who made her debut in Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice), is moving up from June 23, 2017, to June 2, 2017.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Oh "PANIC EVERYTHING WILL BE DELAYED INDEFINITELY THE ENTIRE DCCU IS ON FIRE EVERYTHING AFTER JUSTICE LEAGUE IS IN QUESTION AND MIGHT BE CANCELLED!" Oh oh wait a minute
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