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RuanGacho posted:This is tiny hands level of pettiness really. Except one has something to do with local politics and job creation and one is you coming up with some stupid example that has nothing to do with politics. The woman accused Rick Scott of not creating jobs as a governor and that ad flatly trounced that claim, period. Gyges posted:The ad claims that everyone in Florida has a great job except for those sitting around in coffee shops. It is a level so beyond pants on fire lying that there is no cutesie linguistic phrase for it in any human language. The ad is poking fun at this one lady who apparently doesn't have a good job and is therefore yelling at the governor over her problems, but she's trying to apply her situation to the entire area to make the governor look bad but her claims are not backed up by fact.
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. lol oh god please let them go through with this.
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. Hey, I've seen this episode already.
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Joementum posted:From a Klan wedding in Tennessee last year. The dog's robe is a nice touch. See more in this photo essay. Not sure this is the advertising Coca Cola is looking for. 
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. Bring it the gently caress on 
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. Has anyone told these billaionaires that this is a stupid loving idea? How would a random general nobody has heard of running third party make any kind of difference at all in the general?
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Kro-Bar posted:Has anyone told these billaionaires that this is a stupid loving idea? How would a random general nobody has heard of running third party make any kind of difference at all in the general? Nobody can tell a billionaire anything. If you're so smart, why aren't you rich like them?
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:(What's the origin of this meme btw? I don't get it.) Forums user Fox Ironic.
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Kro-Bar posted:Has anyone told these billaionaires that this is a stupid loving idea? How would a random general nobody has heard of running third party make any kind of difference at all in the general? It'd waste a lot of their money. That'd be funny, at least.
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. The Business Plot Mark II: Spend More Gooder
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Kro-Bar posted:Has anyone told these billaionaires that this is a stupid loving idea? How would a random general nobody has heard of running third party make any kind of difference at all in the general? Look, the only way their billionaire money will get into circulation outside of their own sick pleasure dens is if they throw it away trying to prop up some who-gives-a-gently caress to be the next Mitt Romney last stop for Trump. If the Trust Fund babies want to throw their money into the economy, let them.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:It's a bit pedantic to talk about definitions, but generally I associate "leftism" in the broadest sense with the empowerment of labor, while "right wing" generally refers to more authoritarian things and generally supports capital, oligarchies, or dictatorships. I try to make a distinction between "leftism" and "liberalism"; historically, liberalism has been about individual rights, and is, in other countries, often synonymous with the conservative parties (eg Australia). In the US, people tend to use "liberal" to mean leftist, but there are a lot of differences. Yeah, hence the can of worms in my post. A lot of it comes down to "well what the hell do these politcal terms even mean, exactly". Personally I think your take on right and left wing sounds a little too close to "I associate leftism with good things and right wing with bad things" for my comfort, but to be fair the way I define them is admittedly so broad and vague it's probably not even useful to most people: generally the right wing is about individual interests and the left is about collective interests (like you, I also try to keep 'liberal' and 'left' discrete). So yeah, if we take right-wing to mean 'authoritarian' it will be really hard to come up with any satisfying examples in modern times. If we take right-wing to be 'liberal' in the classical sense, you might have to go back a ways to times when there was more explicit discriminatory government policy against minorities, but it's do-able.
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. Is half way through a Presidential campaign really the time to go for that triple class? Amergin posted:Except one has something to do with local politics and job creation and one is you coming up with some stupid example that has nothing to do with politics. None of her claims were flatly trounced. Rick Scot is objectively horrible, and while I'm quite sure that someone within ear shot of her yelling at Rick Scott had a good job(it's Rick Scott) the gist of her rant holds true. Hell, the ad doesn't even claim that Rick Scott added jobs, just that while he was governor 9.300 jobs were added to the area. Please don't try and defend Rick Scott, he's very close to literally the worst.
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Gyges posted:None of her claims were flatly trounced. Rick Scot is objectively horrible, and while I'm quite sure that someone within ear shot of her yelling at Rick Scott had a good job(it's Rick Scott) the gist of her rant holds true. Hell, the ad doesn't even claim that Rick Scott added jobs, just that while he was governor 9.300 jobs were added to the area. "... just that while he was governor 9,300 jobs were added to the area." Right, so Rick Scott added jobs. This is how this works, unless you want to get pedantic but I'm pretty sure you and most other liberals would rush to defend Obama on jobs even though we "just while he was president had jobs added." The gist of her rant was "what jobs?!" and the ad answered with "these fuckin' jobs!" and therefore her argument was trounced. EDIT: Furthermore you're essentially arguing "Rick Scott is bad therefore this ad must be loving lying" which essentially tells me that Rick Scott could have literally himself added 9,300 jobs to that area and you still wouldn't be convinced. You might want to allow yourself to be wrong and not assume the worst in people, you know?
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I feel like defending Rick Scott isn't even playing devil's advocate anymore. The language isn't strong enough
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Jobs wasn't her only claim. She also called him an rear end in a top hat and that's incontrovertible.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:hey governor scott, u mad bro? This is so unbelievably petty. When a constituent harangues you in a restaurant your job as a politician is to sit there and take it, not to have your PAC dig up oppo research on a random citizen for a smear ad. Is there any precedent for a move like this? Holy poo poo what a thin-skinned gremlin he is. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Nobody can tell a billionaire anything. If you're so smart, why aren't you rich like them? By the time you're a billionaire you've successfully weeded out anyone who would tell you 'no this is a stupid idea' from your inner circle.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Nobody can tell a billionaire anything. If you're so smart, why aren't you rich like them? Good point. It makes the most sense to link my intelligence to my income. It sucks to have people I know tell me my ideas are dumb; when I get rich all of that'll change!
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Rhesus Pieces posted:This is so unbelievably petty. When a constituent harangues you in a restaurant your job as a politician is to sit there and take it, not to have your PAC dig up oppo research on a random citizen for a smear ad. Is there any precedent for a move like this? There's a clip of Al Franken encountering a loud, angry group of constituents. He stops and takes the time to talk to them and tries to address their concerns, winds up calming them down if not making them happy. Really made me respect him as a senator and is about as different from this as could be. Shouting "rear end in a top hat" at Rick Scott should be a new Florida sport, in my opinion.
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Hollismason posted:Not sure this is the advertising Coca Cola is looking for. You'd also think he'd be more of a Vanilla Coke kind of guy.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:This is so unbelievably petty. When a constituent harangues you in a restaurant your job as a politician is to sit there and take it, not to have your PAC dig up oppo research on a random citizen for a smear ad. Is there any precedent for a move like this? I look forward to the pro bono lawsuit.
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. That's McChrystal. Kro-Bar posted:Has anyone told these billaionaires that this is a stupid loving idea? How would a random general nobody has heard of running third party make any kind of difference at all in the general? Uh, plenty of people know who James Mattis is. Terrible idea, but he's pretty recognizable.
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Spun Dog posted:There's a clip of Al Franken encountering a loud, angry group of constituents. He stops and takes the time to talk to them and tries to address their concerns, winds up calming them down if not making them happy. Really made me respect him as a senator and is about as different from this as could be. http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/Prince_Charles
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Aerox posted:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/08/the-secret-movement-to-draft-general-james-mattis-for-president.html "Everyone is hoping Ted Cruz pulls out" 
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Amergin posted:"... just that while he was governor 9,300 jobs were added to the area." A constituent made Rick Scott feel so bad and small he had to ask his rich friends to make a mean ad about her, lol
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No Butt Stuff posted:That's McChrystal. More recognizable than Trump or Hillary? I doubt any significant portion of the electorate knows who he is.
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Rick Scott has the tiniest goddamn wiener
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No Butt Stuff posted:That's McChrystal. Considering the recent history of general officers, I'd imagine that he's one of those guys who got reassigned to some poo poo station rather than face some sort of punishment for Conduct Unbecoming.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Rick Scott has the tiniest goddamn wiener At least his hands seem normal.
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1337JiveTurkey posted:Considering the recent history of general officers, I'd imagine that he's one of those guys who got reassigned to some poo poo station rather than face some sort of punishment for Conduct Unbecoming. He just really, really likes war.
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http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/judge_rules_wisconsin_gov_scott_walker_s_right_to_work_law_unconstitutional County Judge, so I expect him to get overruled, but its  quote:Five years ago Governor Scott Walker rammed through a union busting bill and signed it into law. Months of protests before the bill passed and after the Wisconsin Republican signed it into law captivated the nation. It also prompted a recall election, which Walker survived. The law, Walker insisted, was necessary to fix the state economy, despite there being not a shred of truth to that claim.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Uhhh holy poo poo Wisconsin right to work ruled unconstitutional
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CommieGIR posted:I look forward to the pro bono lawsuit. I hope Scott gets some kind of heat for this. Having your PAC dig through a random constituent's employment history to smear her in a web ad because she gave you a hard time in public is wildly out of line.
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Aerox posted:Apparently there is a secret movement by GOP billionnaires to run a retired general known as the *~*~*WARRIOR MONK*~*~*~ if Trump manages to get the nomination. What a great business plot, Smedley!
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Rhesus Pieces posted:I hope Scott gets some kind of heat for this. Having your PAC dig through a random constituent's employment history to smear her in a web ad because she gave you a hard time in public is wildly out of line. This won't hurt him, I'm guessing. Hard right ideology can spin this in their favor without much issue.
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No Butt Stuff posted:That's McChrystal. The Wikipedia page on Mattis says, "He has never been married and has no children." Maybe he's Lindsey Graham's favorite General.
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