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GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Z3n posted:

K bikes had some transmission issues. Look out for that.
mostly due to their lovely clutch design.
Something about the clutch basket not letting the plates separate. Basically, there's like 6 plates in there, but only one ever wears, the others just stay together.

Oh, exploding 1st (or last) cylinder issues due to oil routing.
All the dirty clutch oil got pumped into the cyl closest to the clutch.

After bro-ing out with a BMW specialist who has an unhealthy love of these bikes, I'm pretty sure I'd never so much as look at one sideways.

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astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
ZRX1200 is the best choice.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

astrollinthepork posted:

ZRX1200 is the best choice.

I love my ZRX and it is a fantastic turbo couch. It cradles my butt fabulously. You can totally turn it into a touring rig and they're relatively inexpensive. Revzilla has racks and even hard case sets if you really want the whole experience.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Yeah by all accounts you want a ZRX, ticks all your boxes.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
I had a choice between a 919 and a ZRX. I made the wrong decision. Don't be like me.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

astrollinthepork posted:

I had a choice between a 919 and a ZRX. I made the wrong decision. Don't be like me.

I went from a ZRX to a 919 and I have felt like selling the loving thing ever since, am now actually getting around to it so I can hopefully buy another ZRX.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
919 is great. Have you considered that it is you who is bad?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Well the ergonomics feel bad and wrong in every way despite, paradoxically, having that honda ease of use, been on it a million times sensation. So it could quite well be me who is bad, or at least badly shaped.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

A buddy of mine has put probably close to 100,000 miles on a 919 and thinks it's awesome

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
Point is while a 919 is great the ZRX 1200 is objectively the greatest motorcycle of all time.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
919s are terminally boring.

primitive
Mar 14, 2001


I AM A CHEAPSKATE WHO HAS HAD THE STUPID NEWBIE BABY AVATAR FOR 12 YEARS.
Need some help from riders in the UK:

- New A licence holder
- No significant experience riding (thank you for the direct entry, motorbike school)

I'm a responsible adult looking for a commuting machine (London) that I can wring out on weekends. Naturally, insurance companies take a dim view to someone with no riding experience getting anything with more power than a lawnmower, especially with zero NCD. So I'm looking for goon advice:

- Something not boring
- That's cheap (£2500 or less) so I can just carry TPO and not cry too much if it gets stolen (will still cry)
- That I won't immediately outgrow

I've been hunting around in the CB500 / SV650 category but I'm having trouble finding something affordable that I can trust to not be a total pile (e.g. mainly looking at dealership ads)

Advice? Someone want to sell me a bike??

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

A buddy of mine has put probably close to 100,000 miles on a 919 and thinks it's awesome

And I have no doubt mine could do the same without skipping a beat or changing in character at all. Unfortunately,

Z3n posted:

919s are terminally boring.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


primitive posted:

Need some help from riders in the UK:

- New A licence holder
- No significant experience riding (thank you for the direct entry, motorbike school)

I'm a responsible adult looking for a commuting machine (London) that I can wring out on weekends. Naturally, insurance companies take a dim view to someone with no riding experience getting anything with more power than a lawnmower, especially with zero NCD. So I'm looking for goon advice:

- Something not boring
- That's cheap (£2500 or less) so I can just carry TPO and not cry too much if it gets stolen (will still cry)
- That I won't immediately outgrow

I've been hunting around in the CB500 / SV650 category but I'm having trouble finding something affordable that I can trust to not be a total pile (e.g. mainly looking at dealership ads)

Advice? Someone want to sell me a bike??

Aprilia Pegaso Strada. Had mine for years before it got stolen, but I parked it not chained to anything for years before the scrotes finally took notice. Will do 90+ easy at full tuck on the motorway (it will max out over 100), light and agile for city use. Cheap insurance. Taught me more about riding than I ever learned on a bigger, faster, heavier bike.
Yamaha MT-03 is also very similar, but with a bit less in the way of features.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS

Z3n posted:

919s are terminally boring.

Alternatively: No. They are actually great.

astrollinthepork fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Apr 14, 2016

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
R1200GS makes a good sport tourer with leg room even if it's way too nerdy.

A Buell Ulysses will give you gravity defying handling but less ponies (will still cruise triple digits all day if you ride in Wyoming).

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
In Europe, every bike can cruise triple digits. :v:

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
All flat plane crank I4s are boring. Except ones that rev to 20k rpm.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
Speaking of the ZRX, how does it compare to the CB1100? I've wanted a ZRX since I was a kid, but ever since the CB came out I've been kind of torn between the two.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
Doesn't a CB1100 make like 60 hp?

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

get the CB1000r it looks dope

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

As Nero Danced posted:

Speaking of the ZRX, how does it compare to the CB1100? I've wanted a ZRX since I was a kid, but ever since the CB came out I've been kind of torn between the two.

The CB1000 is like a 4 cylinder cruiser with a lot less power than the rex as stated, and they're almost totally different despite having a 'similar configuration' on paper. The ZRX is meant to alternate between being thrashed while you laugh hysterically and gliding along like a huge motorised rear end massager. The CB is designed for I guess riding around kind of slowly meeting nice people or whatever, like a harley style cruiser but with no cultural baggage.

A MIRACLE posted:

get the CB1000r it looks dope

I've always wanted one of those angry welding mask wasps.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

astrollinthepork posted:

Doesn't a CB1100 make like 60 hp?

The new aircooled one? I think it's in the 80's. It's not fast, but it's still a really rad bike.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
cb1100 makes 80-something horse and hits peak torque at like 3k rpm. Combined with plush suspension and relaxed ergonomics, it has more in common with Concourse, the touring version of ZRX. Great bike for cruising and long distance travel, don't get it for canyon carving.

Edit: I'm not kidding about that torque curve

Nitrox fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Apr 15, 2016

PCOS Bill
May 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I'm really enjoying my VFR800 while somewhat regretting not holding out a few months and snagging some of these "2014 for $8k new off the lot" deals I keep seeing even if adding in the luggage like I got with my used bike would put it back up to almost $10k right off the bat.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
Wow, I didn't realize just how relaxed the CB1100 is- it really isn't in the same class as the ZRX at all, and if I'm honest its more my kind of bike. Thanks for the info.

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
For some reason, I would like to ride a CB1100 with the engine from a CBR1000RR. That would be hilarious.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

What it feels riding a ZRX:

mungtor
May 3, 2005

Yeah, I hate me too.
Nap Ghost
This will probably get me banned, but I don't think I can deal with the looks of a ZRX. The shape and color just scream 80's at me, and having actually lived through them I have no desire to revisit them. The Uly is a cool idea, but I never know how serious people are about Buells. It would definitely be unique, which I like... but there aren't any on Craigslist near me.

Also looking into the Bandit 1250s, since that seems more sporting than dual sport and has a more standard seating positioin. They're also fairly cheap, and it looks like ABS was an option on some of them, so that's another bonus. There's one by me that already has side cases for $5k with about 17k miles on it. I don't know what the longevity of them is, so I'll have to look into that.

Speaking of ABS, I think that more research on the K-bikes has scared me off. I know that the internet is only for bitching, but the number of people with bad ABS modules - some which are only available from the dealer at $3000 - is just a bunch of bullshit that I don't want to deal with. Rear drive recalls seem common too, and the only service manuals available are CDs from the dealer.

Thanks for all the suggestions tho. I really appreciate it.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
After the nuclear apocalypse, the only motorcycles still running will be bandits, in case you were curious about their longevity and dependability.

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
After the apocalypse, would you rather have FI or carbs?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


mungtor posted:

This will probably get me banned, but I don't think I can deal with the looks of a ZRX. The shape and color just scream 80's at me, and having actually lived through them I have no desire to revisit them. The Uly is a cool idea, but I never know how serious people are about Buells. It would definitely be unique, which I like... but there aren't any on Craigslist near me.

Also looking into the Bandit 1250s, since that seems more sporting than dual sport and has a more standard seating positioin. They're also fairly cheap, and it looks like ABS was an option on some of them, so that's another bonus. There's one by me that already has side cases for $5k with about 17k miles on it. I don't know what the longevity of them is, so I'll have to look into that.

Speaking of ABS, I think that more research on the K-bikes has scared me off. I know that the internet is only for bitching, but the number of people with bad ABS modules - some which are only available from the dealer at $3000 - is just a bunch of bullshit that I don't want to deal with. Rear drive recalls seem common too, and the only service manuals available are CDs from the dealer.

Thanks for all the suggestions tho. I really appreciate it.

The guy I bought my multi from in the UK had a side business stripping wrecked BMWs for their expensive components, mainly ABS modules. He had a tidy eBay business going and was going to move up north and go full time with it.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


captainOrbital posted:

After the apocalypse, would you rather have FI or carbs?

Fuel injection. When the hordes of undead are clawing at your garage door, do you want to be sitting at a work bench fiddling with tiny o-rings and pilot needles shouting "just a minute!", or just press the starter and go?

Infinotize
Sep 5, 2003

Linedance posted:

Fuel injection. When the hordes of undead are clawing at your garage door, do you want to be sitting at a work bench fiddling with tiny o-rings and pilot needles shouting "just a minute!", or just press the starter and go?

But but but this one time I heard a FI system went bad and they had to replace stuff and there were computers and everything. Computers!!!

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Not to mention if an apocalypse happens the majority of bikes are EFI already so spares will be plentiful and a lot less fiddly to replace.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
3 jets and a couple screws is a lot easier for a lot of people to wrap their minds around than MAP and VE and lambda and open loop and closed loop and drivers and what do you mean I need a computer near the motorcycle? That thing is full of viruses why would I hook it up to my bike? That's asking for trouble.

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
I thought maybe a well-running carb would stand the test of the apocalypse? IDK
I would rather have FI personally.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
yeah but see i took mine apart for some reason as soon as i heard there were zambos

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

:stare:

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Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
haha i didn't even realize that was an actual slur, i was trying to type zambis and just said gently caress it

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