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Gravity_Storm posted:So if SC is a scam then it looks like Derek was right huh? So your problem with him sounds like it just doesn't add up. I haven't even mentioned CIG how can I be shilling for them? It's weird how I get associated with something just by being in the general vicinity (posting in a Star Citizen thread) yet Derek can have a nice warm conversation with a known racist and not have that brush up on his image. Come on everyone here makes fun of Money, that he's some kind of token, this and that. What about Derek? He's a token for the Gamergate movement and appears on their webinars yet Derek Smart doesn't get talked about like Money. Why not? Hey and if supposedly Derek didn't find out this info on Ben and he's just hanging around being visible but not actually doing anything then he's Money all the more
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STIMSIS posted:Derek is anti-social justice warrior. Look at his twitter feed it's full of Tracer cosplay because Blizzard wanted to "censor" a sexy pose. Now Derek wants to use the social justice warrior play book and attack Ben Lesnick for racism. It's hypocritical. I linked that quote from Ben on purpose, how he wanted to hate crime Freddie Prince Jr. Ben Lesnick has devoted his life to Wing Commander and even got a tattoo the same as the movie. But even he can realize Freddie Prince Jr was awful in the movie and could make fun of him. Literally no one cares about your  bullshit.
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STIMSIS posted:I haven't even mentioned CIG how can I be shilling for them? It's weird how I get associated with something just by being in the general vicinity (posting in a Star Citizen thread) yet Derek can have a nice warm conversation with a known racist and not have that brush up on his image. Come on everyone here makes fun of Money, that he's some kind of token, this and that. What about Derek? He's a token for the Gamergate movement and appears on their webinars yet Derek Smart doesn't get talked about like Money. Why not? Not going to lie, Ben Lesnick's done wrong by a lot of people and no small number of goons in this thread were here to watch it happen. Ben's old blog just shows that he's always been this terrible, and it was folly to assume he would act as a decent human being when given even a sliver of inconsequential power such as that of being an internet community manager. Writing a rambling rant about Derek Smart and Vox Day isn't going to change that, and the timing is going to make you look suspicious either way.
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Azram Legion posted:Why are you all responding in exactly the way the person behind the STIMSIS account wants? Why are you feeling threatened by what is obviously either a joke or a troll? Just ignore whatever they post or have fun with it... I have fun calling them a retard. Does that count?
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hakimashou posted:Literally no one cares about your Reddit bullshit.
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STIMSIS posted:I haven't even mentioned CIG how can I be shilling for them? It's weird how I get associated with something just by being in the general vicinity (posting in a Star Citizen thread) yet Derek can have a nice warm conversation with a known racist and not have that brush up on his image. Come on everyone here makes fun of Money, that he's some kind of token, this and that. What about Derek? He's a token for the Gamergate movement and appears on their webinars yet Derek Smart doesn't get talked about like Money. Why not? This post reeks of racism Please leave racist
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STIMSIS posted:If you think I work for CIG you're crazy. I don't have a dime invested in Star Citizen and agree that it is a scam. What I don't like and what brought me to post is that hero worship of Derek. Derek hangs out with racists and his friends don't care. Now somebody that Derek doesn't like is exposed as a racist and Derek's friends care about racism all of a sudden. It's stupid to me. All this talk about how Ben should lose his job. DEREK SHOULD LOSE THE OP. HE DOESN'T EVEN UPDATE IT!! Uh, we thoroughly called out Derek for hanging out with Garbage Idiot Vox Day back when that happened. We've always mocked Derek Smart for his bullshit, but acknowledged him for bringing the content and entertaining us. EDIT: Oh, I see, you're one of those guys who call people 'SJWs'
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Apr 17, 2016 12:21
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Turd Burglar posted:I have fun calling them a retard. Does that count? If you have fun doing that, then full speed ahead!
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Apr 17, 2016 12:23
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STIMSIS posted:Hey and if supposedly Derek didn't find out this info on Ben and he's just hanging around being visible but not actually doing anything then he's Money all the more There is no supposedly; he literally posted about it hours after the story broke. Also lol at you implying we let Derek post in this thread so we can have some sort of "token" or that we're gamergaters. BadOptics fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Ag Bengip posted:Uh, we thoroughly called out Derek for hanging out with Garbage Idiot Vox Day back when that happened. We've always mocked Derek Smart for his bullshit, but acknowledged him for bringing the content and entertaining us. Psychologists call the opposite of this "splitting".
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Mendrian posted:Tell me more about the racist's show. It's not a show it's a webinar and it's not archived anywhere so how the gently caress can one talk about it? You can register for new ones but old ones disappear. It's hosted by Vox Day, that rear end in a top hat who tried to hijack the Hugo's so that minority and female writers weren't included for awards. Vox Day doesn't even like women and minorities as characters in sci-fi. yet here come the goons to protest on the cig forums in defense of women gamers WHICH I APPLAUD, but why not critize Derek who pisses all over these efforts by associating with Vox Day? Goons stand up for women, fight against racism. Derek doesn't. He's a Money yet doesn't get talked about the same way. That's what I'm posting about this Sunday morning but people would rather call me loving retarded. No, I just have a well developed sense of principal. Something that is lacking in this thread.
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Azram Legion posted:Why are you all responding in exactly the way the person behind the STIMSIS account wants? Why are you feeling threatened by what is obviously either a joke or a troll? Just ignore whatever they post or have fun with it... I remember when people were hoping Fuzzy Modem was a troll. Kinda wish the poor guy actually was one.
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Apr 17, 2016 12:23
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STIMSIS posted:Ben-Ghazi is sad proof that humanity is doomed because we too easily allow ourselves to be led to hate. Derek Smart, self-proclaimed old-school internet warlord is leading the charge on this hate offensive and I wonder how he can get anyone to enlist? This is the same Derek Smart who appeared with Vox Day on a webinar. I just wanted to let you know I didnt read any of this.
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Apr 17, 2016 12:25
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Einbauschrank posted:I don't mind making fun of him in this forum. I mind trying to destroy his livelihood and framework that offers him some kind of stability. Ben being employed and experiencing some kind of recogition for his job makes him a more stable person and therefore less likely harm to himself or anybody else, though he certainly is killing himself with his lifestyle I appreciate what you're trying to say here (probably because I'm a mega schizoid) but I have to laugh at the thought that crippling job stress that we all agree is visibly killing him is stability. Hell, losing his job might save his life, you really can't predict that. I agree angry righteous mobs are bad and dumb though
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STIMSIS posted:It's not a show it's a webinar and it's not archived anywhere so how the gently caress can one talk about it? You can register for new ones but old ones disappear. It's hosted by Vox Day, that rear end in a top hat who tried to hijack the Hugo's so that minority and female writers weren't included for awards. Vox Day doesn't even like women and minorities as characters in sci-fi. yet here come the goons to protest on the cig forums in defense of women gamers WHICH I APPLAUD, but why not critize Derek who pisses all over these efforts by associating with Vox Day? Listen, realtalk time: I have no idea what you're talking about. You're rambling. So you're saying Derek once shared a digital stage with a known racist and therefore shares all views and connections with said racist (Vox Day)? If you can't tell me what he said how am I supposed to make a snap judgement. Think man! EDIT: Once again, being near somebody with bad views doesn't automatically infect you with bad views. I have no idea who Vox Day is. I have no idea what his webinars are like. I have no idea how being in one of those webinars paints a person. If every webinar is titled like, "If you have tits you can't be a gamer" than yeah maybe but I need deets or you're just using this as a platform to air your laundry.
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STIMSIS posted:It's not a show it's a webinar and it's not archived anywhere so how the gently caress can one talk about it? You can register for new ones but old ones disappear. It's hosted by Vox Day, that rear end in a top hat who tried to hijack the Hugo's so that minority and female writers were included for awards. Vox Day doesn't even like women and minorites as characters in sci-fi. yet here come the goons to harrass on the cig forums in defense of women gamers WHICH I APPLAUD, but why not critize Derek who pisses all over these efforts by associating with Vox Day? Literally no one on these forums supported Derek's decision to go on that show you idiot. How many times are you going to ignore the fact that we laugh at Derek when he does dumb poo poo and he's already been run off the forums before for his dumb poo poo You're retarded
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STIMSIS posted:It's not a show it's a webinar and it's not archived anywhere so how the gently caress can one talk about it? You can register for new ones but old ones disappear. It's hosted by Vox Day, that rear end in a top hat who tried to hijack the Hugo's so that minority and female writers weren't included for awards. Vox Day doesn't even like women and minorities as characters in sci-fi. yet here come the goons to protest on the cig forums in defense of women gamers WHICH I APPLAUD, but why not critize Derek who pisses all over these efforts by associating with Vox Day? WHICH SHIPS DO YOU HAVE?
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STIMSIS posted:It's not a show it's a webinar and it's not archived anywhere so how the gently caress can one talk about it? You can register for new ones but old ones disappear. It's hosted by Vox Day, that rear end in a top hat who tried to hijack the Hugo's so that minority and female writers weren't included for awards. Vox Day doesn't even like women and minorities as characters in sci-fi. yet here come the goons to protest on the cig forums in defense of women gamers WHICH I APPLAUD, but why not critize Derek who pisses all over these efforts by associating with Vox Day?
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Ag Bengip posted:Uh, we thoroughly called out Derek for hanging out with Garbage Idiot Vox Day back when that happened. We've always mocked Derek Smart for his bullshit, but acknowledged him for bringing the content and entertaining us. I'm just using the language of Vox Day to prove a point. I call people people and I respect all people. Derek doesn't. He hangs out with racists. And if Ben should be fired for being a racist, shouldn't work at a school if he's a pedo. How bout Derek isn't OP if he's too busy writing nice packages for Breitbart instead of updating the OP?
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T.G. Xarbala posted:I remember when people were hoping Fuzzy Modem was a troll. Kinda wish the poor guy actually was one. Yeah, that would have been an easier truth to bear, just as it would be easier to view Ben as a despicable irredeemable person, rather than as a completely broken person clinging to a lie. I guess you could say that Fuzzy Modem is Ben-lite, both in behavior and mass.
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STIMSIS posted:It's not a show it's a webinar and it's not archived anywhere so how the gently caress can one talk about it? You can register for new ones but old ones disappear. It's hosted by Vox Day, that rear end in a top hat who tried to hijack the Hugo's so that minority and female writers weren't included for awards. Vox Day doesn't even like women and minorities as characters in sci-fi. yet here come the goons to protest on the cig forums in defense of women gamers WHICH I APPLAUD, but why not critize Derek who pisses all over these efforts by associating with Vox Day? Yeah you really need to roll back in the thread about 600 million miles and see how much we yelled at derek about this. Then keep rolling right out the door and back to reddit.
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Marching Powder posted:News flash reddit and a couple of vocal people and several non-vocal people on this website not everyone was a absolute pile of poo poo I'm their youth. Not even most people. This sort of edgy arrogance is typical entirely of your unpopular, suburban nerd and his gross friends and extremely wrong-headed view of the world.
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STIMSIS posted:DEREK SHOULD LOSE THE OP. HE DOESN'T EVEN UPDATE IT!! Stupid newbie advises... lurk more.
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STIMSIS posted:I'm just using the language of Vox Day to prove a point. I call people people and I respect all people. Derek doesn't. He hangs out with racists. And if Ben should be fired for being a racist, shouldn't work at a school if he's a pedo. How bout Derek isn't OP if he's too busy writing nice packages for Breitbart instead of updating the OP? Sure you do.
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STIMSIS posted:I'm just using the language of Vox Day to prove a point. I call people people and I respect all people. Derek doesn't. He hangs out with racists. And if Ben should be fired for being a racist, shouldn't work at a school if he's a pedo. How bout Derek isn't OP if he's too busy writing nice packages for Breitbart instead of updating the OP? Are you really equivocating writing pedo poo poo while working at a school with posting on a comedy forum?
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Azram Legion posted:Also, I'm probably just jealous that I posted a long, rambling post about Ben and then everyone ignored it because of someone who is either a gimmick or in the middle of a breakdown. You could always try having a long gimmicky meltdown about it.
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BadOptics posted:Are you really equivocating writing pedo poo poo while working at a school with posting on a comedy forum? Honestly if anyone had leaked those posts to the school he was working on he would have been fired on the spot.
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Stanko-Prussian posted:Yeah you really need to roll back in the thread about 600 million miles and see how much we yelled at derek about this. Then keep rolling right out the door and back to reddit. Nu uh Derek wasn't yelled at. It was like a fart someone posted before. You goons are being hypocritical and are allowing someone who would rather make a nice package for Breitbart then update your OP. Derek shouldn't be the OP is all I'm saying. Laugh at what's funny. Condemn what's evil But do so fairly. If Ben should face this consequences I'm seeing people write about how come Derek gets to keep his position of OP? He doesn't even do the research, just uploads it to his Twitter. Why not update the OP if he's just gonna take other people's work and rewrite it? No, Derek is gonna write a book you see, can't be bothered to update the OP. Yeah this thread does stretch 600 million miles, It would be nice if there was an OP who would document it on THIS SITE, instead of taking all the comedy gold generated here and posting it elsewhere.
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STIMSIS posted:I'm just using the language of Vox Day to prove a point. I call people people and I respect all people. Derek doesn't. He hangs out with racists. And if Ben should be fired for being a racist, shouldn't work at a school if he's a pedo. How bout Derek isn't OP if he's too busy writing nice packages for Breitbart instead of updating the OP? Look you aren't supposed to have a meltdown like this as your first post.I don't know how to put it more clearly than this: no one cares at all about the stuff you're saying. Derek Smart is a legit Internet Hero and he saved goons and many other people thousands and thousands of dollars, tens of thousands, maybe even a hundred thousand dollars. He's lead the charge tirelessly and fearlessly against these friends of yours and no amount of repeating "but he was on the thing with the guy that one time guys guys he was on the thing with the guy he was on the thing but what about the thing but what about the time with the guy is going to diminish anyone's opinion of him.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Honestly if anyone had leaked those posts to the school he was working on he would have been fired on the spot. Exactly; but to be honest any sane company would drop you in an instant as well. That's not even going into being the literal face of your org.
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STIMSIS posted:Nu uh Derek wasn't yelled at. It was like a fart someone posted before. You goons are being hypocritical and are allowing someone who would rather make a nice package for Breitbart then update your OP. Derek shouldn't be the OP is all I'm saying. Laugh at what's funny. Condemn what's evil But do so fairly. If Ben should face this consequences I'm seeing people write about how come Derek gets to keep his position of OP? He doesn't even do the research, just uploads it to his Twitter. Why not update the OP if he's just gonna take other people's work and rewrite it? No, Derek is gonna write a book you see, can't be bothered to update the OP. I'd rather he make a nice package for breitbart than update the OP. I'm glad of it.
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Azram Legion posted:Also, I'm probably just jealous that I posted a long, rambling post about Ben and then everyone ignored it because of someone who is either a gimmick or in the middle of a breakdown. To be fair: I think you have valid points about Ben. And most other people will agree with you. But he is part of a system that IS harming vulnerable people. Even though he''s probably psychologically trapped in this position and lacks the willpower to face the conequences of doing something against it. Wether or not the lack of willpower is his fault or not is a very philosphical thing to debate. Without knowing him personally and stuff. Azram Legion posted:I can't stand Ben, but it is impossible for me not to feel intense pity for him at the same time. We are talking about a guy who started seeing himself as an undesirable loaf - an eternal outcast - in his childhood. Someone who genuinely does not believe he is a worthwhile being, and tries to hide it behind the weakest, most fragile superiority complex imaginable. His weight has gone up by that of a fully grown human since he started working at CIG, and his boss will constantly make mean-spirited jokes about it in front of the only group of people that actually respect him (because they themselves are lesser versions of him).
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AP posted:I don't know what you mean, you appeared to have the wrong impression about something that happened ages ago. I politely tried to help you out, you then posted something of mine from 2014 that I assume you also misunderstood, as why else would you do that. I wasn't trying to annoy you or make fun of you, initially at least. Well, I guess the past couple hundred/thousand posts have been more shock and disgust than joy. Why Ben? Why?
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