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I'm not what you would call "Good" at PvP anyways, so my entire confusion is why basically everyone I have run into treat purple invaders as turbo Satan who should be taken down through any means necessary as soon as possible (okay makes sense so far) While a Red phantom is right there, trying to kill you (Aaaand now I'm confused). "Hey you know what? I guess I don't HAVE to kill the host. Okay, guard break the read Phantom and-oh I've been backstabbed by the host. Well at least they can probably catch... oh they are enacting a 4vs1 beatdown on me while the red phantom crystals out 10 feet away completely ignored? Okey dokey." I mean yeah, if I decide to bow as an invader an they respond by stabbing me in the groin, I'm still an INVADER despite how many people also scream like children at how invaders should have honor, so that's understandable. In any game, E honor only survives as long as it is convenient for the person demanding it, anyways. I'm just trying to figure out why the priorities I've run into so far in my meager dabbling of invasion seem to be "gently caress purple guys forever. Even if a Red phantom is pitching chaos fireballs at me and my phantoms, we gotta get that purple guy first! Even if he's dressed up like a farmer dual wielding torches!" Is it because purple dudes give you a shackle if you kill them, while killing reds give you gently caress all as a host or sign summon? That's the only "Logical" reason I can quickly think of for so many people going out of their way to kill purples instead of reds.
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Obligatum VII posted:A Smelter Demon for each element! All at the same time! It'll be like the gank squad from the first DLC  except I'd expect four smelter demons at the same time to be better than that mess
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May 2, 2016 01:04
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School Nickname posted:As I was running out of embers to fight bosses (My vig is only 15, should I buff it up a bit?), I decided to help newbies fight Old Demon King. I was summoned by one guy like 5 times, he still hasn't realised that the boss explodes when close to death.
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May 2, 2016 01:05
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net cafe scandal posted:This. Actually, this theory about the Four Kings may make Kaathe's endgame make more sense.
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Section Z posted:I'm not what you would call "Good" at PvP anyways, so my entire confusion is why basically everyone I have run into treat purple invaders as turbo Satan who should be taken down through any means necessary as soon as possible (okay makes sense so far) While a Red phantom is right there, trying to kill you (Aaaand now I'm confused). yeah this is super confusing to me too, I guess its because some people don't understand what purple is and they're like "oh poo poo it's like a SUPER RED!" when in all actuality they just have to put together that purple = red (invader) + blue (helper) I've even got some footage of a huge brawl in the crab lagoon with like two reds, two yellows, a white, a blue, and a watchdog of farron, and the watchdog just starts gunning it for me (the purple) even running past yellow phantoms and the host to get to me.
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May 2, 2016 01:07
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Tetracube posted:I kind of appreciate the hp reduction for invaders in this game because it reminds us all to stop caring about e-honorable duels or whatever and just kill people however possible I would agree, but killed phantoms can be summoned again 30 seconds later, so the invaders don't even get that.
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May 2, 2016 01:08
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RatHat posted:I think the guy in black/silver knight armor was hacking. I don't think it's possible to get your defense that high without a ridiculous amount of vitality. Hell, I have no points in Vitality. My defense in full BK sans helm is too high anyway, so I wear the Calamity Ring.
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May 2, 2016 01:09
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What weapon do you guys recommend for a spell-oriented glass cannon? I think it would be cool to have a buffable weapon, but since I'll go high int AND fth I suppose it would have to have low requirements. Only going for straight swords as a last resort, literally anything else would be cooler/more fun.
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May 2, 2016 01:09
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BillmasterCozb posted:It'll be like the gank squad from the first DLC I'm still amazed I beat that garbage boss with the two NPC summons they give you.
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May 2, 2016 01:10
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Your Computer posted:What weapon do you guys recommend for a spell-oriented glass cannon? I think it would be cool to have a buffable weapon, but since I'll go high int AND fth I suppose it would have to have low requirements. you're probably gonna be using one anyway because you need a shitload of int to make sorceries good and straight swords tend to have the least requirements. you could maybe try making the deep battle axe you get early on raw tho. really just make whatever you like raw and then buff it. my real suggestion is don't bbe spel oriented, period
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May 2, 2016 01:12
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argondamn posted:I like fighting multiple opponents and even when I don't win it's satisfying to see how close I can get. Maybe you guys shouldn't invade if you don't like it. I like invading in upper Irithyll and being as obnoxious as possible until enough Aldritch Faithful show up that I'm not fighting outnumbered any more. 
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May 2, 2016 01:13
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SciFiDownBeat posted:perhaps irithyll is the painted world, which aldrich or pontiff sulyvhan dragged into the real world in their search for priscilla, and priscilla somehow morphed into yorshka. the influence of the painted world could also contribute to anor londo's state (besides dark anor londo being triggered in the past). I don't think Irithyll is anything from a previous game. I think it's a place on the far side of the world that got dragged into Lothric because it's Aldritch's hometown and he was powerful enough to be a lord a cinder. He's very clearly an outsider to traditional dark souls. In a world full of fire and kindling, he dreams of a world of water
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May 2, 2016 01:16
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SciFiDownBeat posted:perhaps she believes the darkmoon blades to have died with gwyndolin, not knowing about yorshka Could be, tho for me Seath's reincarnation deal is tied up in the crystals moreso than anything else, and Yorshka doesn't have that motif going on
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May 2, 2016 01:16
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SciFiDownBeat posted:perhaps she believes the darkmoon blades to have died with gwyndolin, not knowing about yorshka It's not impossible, but Seath's ability to reincarnate is not unique, nor really something he "found out" how to do. I guess the sticking point is that Seath explicitly is an eternal being but the Four Kings are not mentioned as such. There's a lot of potential reasons for this, but this part of the Dark Souls 2 lore has always been a little bit sketchy. Dragons and their progeny in general seem to be pretty difficult to stamp out entirely, so a certain degree of permanence might be intrinsic to their beings.
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May 2, 2016 01:16
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If I have 15 INT/FAI for support buffs, what chime and/or staff is the best for me? assume +8 target reinforcement for it
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Broseph Brostar posted:He's very clearly an outsider to traditional dark souls. In a world full of fire and kindling, he dreams of a world of water his japanese name is supposedly directly translated as "eldritch" so I like to entertain the idea that he's a corporeal great one from bloodborne
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May 2, 2016 01:22
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Are the higher SL ranks more populated now because of the bigger audience, or do Japanese players just tend to play at higher SL? My experience with previous Souls games was that multiplayer dies off once your SL/SM goes too high, but in DS3 I'm still getting a lot of invasions in NG+++ at SL 230. Not sure if it's the playing habits of my current region or just lots of new people playing past the meta. Unfortunately they all seem to be people who grinded levels to try and make up for a lack of skill, cause they sure do go down easy. Which makes me think it has to be the influx of new players, because veterans know that over-leveling has never been that helpful in these games.
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May 2, 2016 01:23
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May 2, 2016 01:24
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Looks like two free pig tongues to me
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Your Computer posted:What weapon do you guys recommend for a spell-oriented glass cannon? I think it would be cool to have a buffable weapon, but since I'll go high int AND fth I suppose it would have to have low requirements. I'm using the lothric knight sword, it requires 11 str and 18 dex(dex increases casting speed also so not a bad investment)...also scales S with Int when infused with Magic, nice little sword...oh no straight swords, maybe I should read the 2nd part, really just do whatever you want and buff it with magic I guess?
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May 2, 2016 01:25
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Babe Magnet posted:
Crime is too hard, so now there's no crime. You're out of a job pig.
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HellCopter posted:So when you say "Aldritch ate Nito" what you meant was, "Aldritch ate a pile of bones vaguely shaped like Nito"? I can accept that even if it's overall meaningless. I meant he ate Nito, weirdo
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Buca di Bepis posted:i bet you can, actually. by getting better Good memeing dude, but no, by now the twinks most of the time are the cooperators and there's up to 3 of them, plus the host, also the host has more health and estus, also if you do kill any of those phantoms it takes about a hot second for them to find a dozen more waiting, on top of that the host really doesn't ever have to fight you either if he doesn't want, because running away is so effective. Also laffo at the dude a few pages ago that implied invasions almost ever come to two invaders trying to get you. That's literally only if you used fingers and even then it's unlikely.
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May 2, 2016 01:31
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I knew you could fight the Dancer early. I had no idea you could fight the Dragonslayer Armour early. I mean it makes sense since nothing is stopping you from getting there, but I never hear anyone doing it.
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May 2, 2016 01:32
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Babe Magnet posted:oh yeah darksouls3spoilertags.txt
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May 2, 2016 01:32
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I actually got summoned into a world with someone who had a sunbro already and a purple invader came in, the four of us spent about 20 minutes loving up every other invader that had the misfortune of coming into the hosts world. it was awesome .
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I knew you could fight the Dancer early. I had no idea you could fight the Dragonslayer Armour early. I mean it makes sense since nothing is stopping you from getting there, but I never hear anyone doing it. Not much reason to, sadly. The Archives remain inaccessible until you do your job properly and find the other three lords of cinder and both of the Armor's transposition weapons require too many points in strength to use at a reasonably low level. It's also a pretty harsh fight even at level.
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NTT posted:RE: Sirris/Fingers, you can collect the covenant from Rosaria, equip it, invade with it, collect as many pale tongues as you want, and also respec all you want, and you will not break Sirris quest. The patch that allows for this happened AFTER I had passed the point in the game to get a gesture from Yellowfinger, so I'll have to NG+ to get that last gesture for the achievement. Kinda crazy that even following a completionist guide you needed more than one playthrough to do EVERYTHING, but I guess that is what the patch was for.
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Jerusalem posted:The patch that allows for this happened AFTER I had passed the point in the game to get a gesture from Yellowfinger, so I'll have to NG+ to get that last gesture for the achievement. Kinda crazy that even following a completionist guide you needed more than one playthrough to do EVERYTHING, but I guess that is what the patch was for. you can't do everything in one run anyway since there's at least one boss soul that can give you a unique spell or ring. unless havel's ring and boulder toss can be obtained elsewhere
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irithyll is a pretty cool area a bit of a pain in the rear end to get the first leg done but i love the boss.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Is there an explanation as to why Yorshka exists besides "we needed a covenant master for the darkmoon blades" and "we needed a giant furry girl in the game"?
Proposition Joe posted:The descriptions on the Corvian weapons indicate that the Painted World still exists and that these horrible, terrible crow people are trying to find their way there. Staff of a heretic storyteller who shares tales of the Painted World to forlorn souls. The storytellers, too, are wretched beings with no place to go. Their bodies, souls, and even their staves are all tainted through and through. Which doesn't really state whether the Painted World still exists or not, only that the Corvians can no longer get there because they're either tainted and incapable or they just can't. Painting portal is gone, Aldrich ate Priscilla and drove the inhabitants out, who knows. CJacobs posted:Speaking of lore, is there... anything, anything to explain Andre's continued presence? I cannot find a single bit of information on the guy in the game except for his hammer which pretty much just says the same thing it said in DS1. Blacksmiths are one of the most in-demand professions around in such a dangerous environment, and as Andre says a few times, being a smith is just what he does; it's who he is. Keeps him going. He might've also had a period where he was dead and came back as Unkindled as well. Regardless, it's unquestionably the same Andre from DS1 and the only excuse he ever gives is that he's a smith and enjoys it. Space Hamlet posted:Edit: Though I will say that my preferred readings are those which shove DS2 off to the dustbin of utter irrelevance rather than giving it central booking SciFiDownBeat posted:I was really hoping to see the throne of want just laying around smashed to pieces or something, but alas Think too about the entire notion of a Lord of Cinder. How are people even aware of such a thing? It's common knowledge in DS3 that people who linked the fire and weren't completely consumed by it remain as Lords of Cinder. Who told them that? Your DS1 guy certainly didn't. Vendrick and Aldia researched it in Drangleic and by some funny coincidence the Legend of the Linking of the Fire derives from the fall of Drangleic and the spread of its people throughout the world as mercenaries. Vendrick knew what becoming a Lord of Cinder (== True Monarch) would entail and chickened out, and that's why he's known to history as the King of Want and "no true king" (which isn't a dig at DS2, because Vendrick literally says himself that he's no king in SotFS).
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Manatee Cannon posted:you can't do everything in one run anyway since there's at least one boss soul that can give you a unique spell or ring. unless havel's ring and boulder toss can be obtained elsewhere Oh that's from Stray Demon, right? I know I got Havel's Ring from that on my first character and I guess Boulder Toss was the other option I could have taken?
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School Nickname posted:As I was running out of embers to fight bosses (My vig is only 15, should I buff it up a bit?), I decided to help newbies fight Old Demon King. I was summoned by one guy like 5 times, he still hasn't realised that the boss explodes when close to death. He explodes?! I guess I just killed him too fast every time.
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Nakar posted:A purpose and a steady supply of souls can keep a person healthy and potentially sane, and a lack of purpose can accelerate the curse. Compare Lucatiel in DS2 who can only make it as far as she does because you help her remember her purpose and Maughlin who becomes less rational once he realizes his dream of becoming rich. The shrine handmaiden also seems to enjoy pointing out that earning souls by selling poo poo to you is good news for her. This makes sense when I consider that the giant Blacksmith stopped getting visitors once Aldrich set up shop 
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invaded a dude who only had one letter of his name wordfiltered, what the gently caress
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Jerusalem posted:Oh that's from Stray Demon, right? I know I got Havel's Ring from that on my first character and I guess Boulder Toss was the other option I could have taken? yeah, it's either or on that one. bummed me out when I noticed it
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Most of the Boss soul choices are easy but some are really brutal. C. Gundyr is the worst
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Babe Magnet posted:invaded a dude who only had one letter of his name wordfiltered, what the gently caress Maybe he just used a *?
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SciFiDownBeat posted:perhaps irithyll is the painted world, which aldrich or pontiff sulyvhan dragged into the real world in their search for priscilla, and priscilla somehow morphed into yorshka. the influence of the painted world could also contribute to anor londo's state (besides dark anor londo being triggered in the past). This poo poo is Hideo Kajima levels of MGS story convolution 
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Oh and the Usurpation of Fire ending may follow from the Scholar lore, in that Vendrick wonders if there's another way and would rather go hollow than muster up the courage to do it, and Aldia notes that humans seek something beyond the cycle that they're trapped in. They tried and failed to break the cycle. The Fire Keeper's vision of the future suggests that the cycle may be impossible to break even if you let the flames die out. But what can you do? Well, Yuria/Kaathe and Londor seem to want a Lord of Hollows to seize the First Flame and do... something with it... and that might be what breaks the cycle for good. Kaathe never suggests that you do this in DS1, so it's possible that he discovered that merely letting the flames die out isn't going to stop things and sought a more permanent solution, exactly like Aldia did. Yuria is also the only character in the game that I'm aware of who uses the phrase "true monarch," an expression favored by Vendrick and Aldia in DS2. Perhaps a "true" monarch is not a Lord of Cinder, but a Lord of Hollows, one who seizes the flames for mankind and ends the cycle. Somehow.
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