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Xaris posted:There are usually laws like no sleeping in your car (dumb) municipalities in the bay area started passing these ordinances in order to get rid of the RV people and the ones that haven't (yet) like mountain view now have the RV population concentrated there where they now occupy entire blocks of on-street parking - it was pretty crazy to see when we first moved there in san jose the homeless outreach group PATH provides permanent housing in the downtown area which i'd love to see more of
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Remember that time the town of West, Texas physically blew up because of low regulations LMAO San Bruno does 
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Remember that time the town of West, Texas physically blew up because of low regulations LMAO 
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And yet we still don't manage to have anything as bad as this...
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lol that article compares the environmental impact to the BP oilspill in terms of global warming which i suppose would be a little more genuine since no humans were killed in the methane leak
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Xaris posted:Thanks Reagan Well here in Hawaii, we have lots of programs and place for the financially and socially destitute.There's also the very poor, but they live in small camps on the more rural parts of the island. Our main problem is that there's really no place to put junkies and crazies since we don't really have any large scale mental health hospitals anymore due to deinstitutionalisation. The US's prison population as a whole has got much larger though.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Remember that time the town of West, Texas physically blew up because of low regulations LMAO Lol
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amuayse posted:Question: How does Cali deal with homeless? I live in Hawaii, which is the homeless capital of the US and we don't really have any vagrancy laws. They don't, take the Amtrak out of San Diego and you'll see several tent cities.
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Teflon Don posted:They don't, take the Amtrak out of San Diego and you'll see several tent cities. LA is littered with them, from Skid Row to the 710 corridor to Santa Monica. It's only been getting worse since the rent is getting catastrophically high and millions of people are one missed paycheck away from living in a box.
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Drive into LA on the 110 and when you get to that part where there are a bunch of bridges over you, every bridge is filled with tents. It's depressing and frightening. There but for the grace of god, you know?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Drive into LA on the 110 and when you get to that part where there are a bunch of bridges over you, every bridge is filled with tents. It's depressing and frightening. There but for the grace of god, you know? Then Garcetti decided gently caress that and had them all rounded up and destroyed. It was much nicer seeing little houses instead of tents on the drive down to LAX. Like a part of didn't feel like a terrible gently caress about the homeless crisis because oh look a cute perriwinkle minihome!
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Does anyone have any clear guides to Prop 50? I just got my voter information guide and I'm having trouble parsing the arguments for and against it.
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This is agent Smith to Alpha Control. How should I vote this election? Comrade Smith out.
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ghost emoji posted:Does anyone have any clear guides to Prop 50? I just got my voter information guide and I'm having trouble parsing the arguments for and against it. I like pete rates the props. He has recommendations which I usually agree with but he tells you very explicitly his reasoning so you can take or reject it. http://www.peterates.com/props-0616.shtml#prop50 Voters Edge and Ballotopedia are good for a more overall, balanced view. http://www.votersedge.org/en/ca/ballot/election/area/39/measures/measure/1850?id=ocd-division/country:us/state:ca https://ballotpedia.org/California_Suspension_of_Legislators_Amendment,_Proposition_50_(June_2016) Shbobdb posted:This is agent Smith to Alpha Control. 
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ghost emoji posted:Does anyone have any clear guides to Prop 50? I just got my voter information guide and I'm having trouble parsing the arguments for and against it. At first glance, I'm with the NO argument on this one. There's expulsion, there's recall, all of these are political tools, not disciplinary tools. Suspension without pay for an indictment seems disciplinary and I'm not really digging that for reps. If you have an issue with their behavior, vote them out.
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I think it's weird that parliamentary procedure like this needs to be in the state's constitution in detail. At the federal level, the senate and congress manage their affairs without having their rules written into the constitution in detail. That said, it seems to be how state constitutions work - especially California's. And the bodies absolutely need to have the tools to censure members with action that is less than permanent expulsion but more than just a strongly-worded letter. If the constituents don't like having their voting representative penalized (and prohibited from voting) they should recall him; but if the charges are bogus, it'll be tough to get 2/3s of the body to vote for action anyway. So basically I think I'll vote for it, but in the larger context, I'd like to see the state move towards a more open constitution that permits governing bodies to self-regulate a little more freely. e. then again, managing their affairs freely is how we get senate majorities perennially threatening to use the "nuclear option" to get rid of the fillibuster. So it's not exactly a panacea.
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From what I can tell all Prop 50 does is establish a procedure and guidelines for the suspension of a legislator, instead of letting them make it up as they go. The rules don't seem to be that terrible either: 1. Requires 2/3rds vote 2. Requires a stated, bona fide reason for suspension It still seems to give the legislature discretion in the term of the suspension & withholding of pay, but I feel like it's better than nothing. Edit: Also I finally got my voter information guide and I'm not sure who I like better - the green party lady who just put a link to her facebook page, or the scrawny independent white guy that just wrote a line of binary. Sydin fucked around with this message at 00:43 on May 7, 2016 |
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So what are the odds we end up with Harris and Sanchez as the Senate nominees in the general? And how will people respond when the jungle primary system finally puts up two candidates from the same party for a statewide office?
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Litany Unheard posted:So what are the odds we end up with Harris and Sanchez as the Senate nominees in the general? And how will people respond when the jungle primary system finally puts up two candidates from the same party for a statewide office? I think it's pretty likely and it certainly helps Sanchez' prospects in the general which sucks.
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Sydin posted:From what I can tell all Prop 50 does is establish a procedure and guidelines for the suspension of a legislator, instead of letting them make it up as they go. The rules don't seem to be that terrible either: I like the lady who talked about mind control.
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amuayse posted:Well here in Hawaii, we have lots of programs and place for the financially and socially destitute.There's also the very poor, but they live in small camps on the more rural parts of the island. I would describe California exactly the same way.
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That's kind of a weak relationship you're trying to make. Beyond the actual events, the government and societal response to them matters too As far as I know, some politicians introduced potential laws in Texas a couple years after the fact, but I've yet to see any actual change. Plus as far as I know, the issue with the gas leak in CA stemmed from lack of oversight back in the 70s where a safety valve was removed and never replaced.
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AngryBooch posted:I think it's pretty likely and it certainly helps Sanchez' prospects in the general which sucks.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Remember that time the town of West, Texas physically blew up because of low regulations LMAO They say it's arson now actually.
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computer parts posted:They say it's arson now actually. The lack of regulations and failure to follow regulations still were big causes of the loss of life.
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So John Chiang is also running for governor now
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Chiang stood up against Schwarzenegger each time he tried to do pay cuts, but beyond that I am not sure of his political positions.
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Suhr is out as SF police chief, as SFPD seemingly can't stop gunning down black people.
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Kobayashi posted:Suhr is out as SF police chief, as SFPD seemingly can't stop gunning down black people. It's like Pringles. Once you've tried it, it would be
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Christ remind me never to read SF chronicle comments on police related stories.
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IllIllIll posted:Christ remind me never to read SF chronicle comments
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IllIllIll posted:Christ remind me never to read SF chronicle comments on police related stories. You've only got one faith in mankind to lose.
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Someone had posted voter guides earlier in this thread but I'm having trouble finding them. One was ballotpedia I believe. Anyone else have good ones for Cali so I don't have to think before I vote?
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Markorjoshua posted:Someone had posted voter guides earlier in this thread but I'm having trouble finding them. One was ballotpedia I believe. Anyone else have good ones for Cali so I don't have to think before I vote? It was on this same page FCKGW posted:I like pete rates the props. He has recommendations which I usually agree with but he tells you very explicitly his reasoning so you can take or reject it.
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FCKGW posted:It was on this same page Thanks!
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HSR has been delayed four years. You'll now have to wait for 2022 to get from Merced to Bakersfield.
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IllIllIll posted:Christ remind me never to read SF chronicle comments on police related stories. I've got a bunch of FB friends on and around the SJPD and they're absolutely losing their poo poo. "The criminals have won" is the general refrain.
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This is one of the funniest political cartoons I've ever seen
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ComradeCosmobot posted:HSR has been delayed four years. You'll now have to wait for 2022 to get from Merced to Bakersfield. HSR would be such a boon to California and the country in general that it frustrates me to no end that I keep seeing this. Though it seems a lot of the delays and costs are from the legal battles that came out of it.
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Yeah not having a personal income tax means raising money through less progressive means. It does make a good right wing talking point about the people's republic of California
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