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Timeless Appeal posted:Is there a reason Marvel isn't doing everything in their power to get Brad Bird to direct a Marvel movie? Did he lose Disney a poo poo load of money because of Tomorrowland?
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Snipes looks ok now - his eye's a bit wonky but otherwise he's good. With some Disney magic he'd be back as Blade. Hell, look at the Disney magic on Mark Hamill.
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May 9, 2016 14:40
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Vintersorg posted:Snipes looks ok now - his eye's a bit wonky but otherwise he's good. With some Disney magic he'd be back as Blade. Hell, look at the Disney magic on Mark Hamill. Please, Snipes is in way better shape now than Hamill probably ever was.
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May 9, 2016 14:42
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Gyges posted:Given Civil War it seems pretty clear that they're not going with the no super powers just a super smart dude at peak physical condition version. The dude ran down a motorcycle and was flipping off cars and poo poo. That's a hell of a peak.
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May 9, 2016 15:12
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Might be missing something obvious here, but why would they ever consider hiring Snipes again after what sounds like a fiasco filming Blade 3? I thought he went off the deep end then, and that was before he was in prison for like 3 years.
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May 9, 2016 15:17
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Electromax posted:Might be missing something obvious here, but why would they ever consider hiring Snipes again after what sounds like a fiasco filming Blade 3? I thought he went off the deep end then, and that was before he was in prison for like 3 years. He seems to have been humbled by everything that happened. I am sure he'd be thankful now.
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May 9, 2016 15:21
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Kurzon posted:MCU Cap is far more powerful than comic Cap, who is just a peak human. Peak human in Marvel/DC is pretty much how Cap is depicted in the movies, only faster. Batman and Cap, two "peak humans" in comics, aim dodge rooms of machine gun fire, clear out rooms of people faster than they can track, lift 2000 pounds as a workout, and punch through trees and punch steel doors off their hinges...and these are regular things.
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May 9, 2016 15:27
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I want those Disney drugs.
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May 9, 2016 15:29
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Vintersorg posted:He seems to have been humbled by everything that happened. I am sure he'd be thankful now. I'm pretty sure if they ever asked him to play a role in any Disney/Marvel film they'd march a line of lawyers into the meeting room and present him with a very long, detailed contract with some rather novel but extremely serious stipulations written into it.
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May 9, 2016 15:30
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Darko posted:Peak human in Marvel/DC is pretty much how Cap is depicted in the movies, only faster. Batman and Cap, two "peak humans" in comics, aim dodge rooms of machine gun fire, clear out rooms of people faster than they can track, lift 2000 pounds as a workout, and punch through trees and punch steel doors off their hinges...and these are regular things.
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May 9, 2016 15:42
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Davros1 posted:Did he lose Disney a poo poo load of money because of Tomorrowland? There's a reason he immediately found himself getting back to work at Pixar. That said, they kind of get the best of both worlds since he's doing The Incredibles 2. But yeah, Bird is in the same sort of hole Andrew Stanton got put in when they had to write off John Carter. Go back to the proven moneymaker, maybe we'll let you take a risk again like a decade from now. Tomorrowland flopping also probably killed his 1906 San Francisco earthquake movie cold.
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May 9, 2016 15:49
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I enjoyed Tomorrowland AND John Carter.  I thought they were both pretty fun. Looking forward to Incredibles 2 - I've not heard anything about it.
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May 9, 2016 16:09
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Darko posted:Peak human in Marvel/DC is pretty much how Cap is depicted in the movies, only faster. Batman and Cap, two "peak humans" in comics, aim dodge rooms of machine gun fire, clear out rooms of people faster than they can track, lift 2000 pounds as a workout, and punch through trees and punch steel doors off their hinges...and these are regular things. I always think of peak human means different things in the case of Batman or Cap in that Batman is extremely well trained and conditioned and experienced a la peak as a 6'4" 240 lb 7% BF guy but Captain with the super soldier serum is literally every gold medal athlete in one person. Fast as Usain Bolt while as strong as that Mountain guy with the endurance of some world class Kenyan runner.
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May 9, 2016 16:12
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Caps powers are just peak plot relevance.
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May 9, 2016 16:15
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Well, the implication with Cap is that he is the Ubermensch. Blonde, blue eyed and created in a lab.
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May 9, 2016 16:21
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Codependent Poster posted:Excuse me, it's Booyah Begins. Been catching up on the thread, I want to applaud this post.
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May 9, 2016 16:34
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Drifter posted:I enjoyed Tomorrowland AND John Carter. Well, they're not exactly quick to make. I don't think they'd done anything particular about an Incredibles 2 prior to Bird coming back to Pixar, either, so it's under cover of darkness until like 2017 at earliest since it's not going to be out until 2019.
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May 9, 2016 16:43
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Drifter posted:I enjoyed Tomorrowland AND John Carter. Same, more so John Carter - it's a shame they are seen as garbage. 
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May 9, 2016 16:46
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John Carter has some really wack structural decisions but other than that is a good movie. I defy anyone to dislike Woolah. drat he owns so hard! I hope he jumps into another franchise and ends up in the DCEU as Krypto. BTW anyone who actually gives John Carter a chance pretty much likes it. I've flipped a couple of people who stayed away because "it was a bomb" or "it looks stupid".
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May 9, 2016 16:50
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I'll give anything a chance, but I haven't stumbled on John Carter anywhere that I could watch it streaming for free, otherwise I'd have seen it by now. I guess because it was such a bomb there's not much demand for it?
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May 9, 2016 16:52
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Kurzon posted:In the Lagos scene Cap kicks a car into an opponent. That's something Batman can't do on his best day. I heard Mr. Furious lifted a bus once.
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May 9, 2016 16:53
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Basebf555 posted:I'll give anything a chance, but I haven't stumbled on John Carter anywhere that I could watch it streaming for free, otherwise I'd have seen it by now. I guess because it was such a bomb there's not much demand for it? Its a flawed movie and has some pacing problems but its visual design is beautiful and the alien/animated characters are pretty endearing. Especially Woola.
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May 9, 2016 17:09
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AngryBooch posted:I always think of peak human means different things in the case of Batman or Cap in that Batman is extremely well trained and conditioned and experienced a la peak as a 6'4" 240 lb 7% BF guy but Captain with the super soldier serum is literally every gold medal athlete in one person. Fast as Usain Bolt while as strong as that Mountain guy with the endurance of some world class Kenyan runner. In theory, but in presentation, they're pretty much the same:   ...it makes no sense, and it's just best to just say that "peak human" in comics means slightly superhuman.
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May 9, 2016 17:30
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Darko posted:In theory, but in presentation, they're pretty much the same: What most people are ignoring as that humans in comics and film are already slightly super-human. They can jump from higher heights and survive, take multiple heavy punches to the head and be fine, etc. Basically, if John McClaine is a normal dude, Captain America and Batman are the peak version of John Mclaine level normal dudes.
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May 9, 2016 17:45
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TetsuoTW posted:If Marvel has the film rights to Blade, I might actually ejaculate in the theater if Snipes as Blade shows up in The only thing I want more in Marvel movies than SnipesBlade and CageRider is for Spiderman to summon his giant robot Leopardon.
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May 9, 2016 17:55
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I'm pretty sure if they ever asked him to play a role in any Disney/Marvel film they'd march a line of lawyers into the meeting room and present him with a very long, detailed contract with some rather novel but extremely serious stipulations written into it. At this point he'd probably only need the single stipulation of "Davis S. Goyer is not involved in this film in any way." to be fine. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 18:11
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Pretty sure movie Cap is using Ultimate Cap as his powers base. Which means he actually is super human and not "peak" human.
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May 9, 2016 18:21
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Davros1 posted:Did he lose Disney a poo poo load of money because of Tomorrowland?
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May 9, 2016 19:36
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Gyges posted:Pretty sure movie Cap is using Ultimate Cap as his powers base. Which means he actually is super human and not "peak" human. Yeah, peak human in the MCU Black Widow, Hawkeye, Melinda May, etc... Cap is the only perfect super soldier ever. Bucky, Red Skull, the other Winter Soldiers and onwards are made with some form of flawed serum.
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May 9, 2016 19:40
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PriorMarcus posted:Yeah, peak human in the MCU Black Widow, Hawkeye, Melinda May, etc... And also because they don't have his moral fiber, or something.
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May 9, 2016 19:51
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Doesn't Blonsky get injected with the actual super soldier serum that was used on Rogers?
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May 9, 2016 19:52
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I think "peak human" just means "doesn't shoot energy beams or teleport or fly".
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May 9, 2016 19:52
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Timby posted:Doesn't Blonsky get injected with the actual super soldier serum that was used on Rogers? A smaller dose at first than Rogers got. Ross has Blonsky injected a second time with a larger dose than the first which creates the bone deformity and starts Blonsky down the path to crazy town. Blonsky then forces a doctor to utilize the gamma treatment Bruce received and that pushes him over into Abomination status.
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May 9, 2016 19:58
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MacheteZombie posted:A smaller dose at first than Rogers got. Ross has Blonsky injected a second time with a larger dose than the first which creates the bone deformity and starts Blonsky down the path to crazy town. Blonsky then forces a doctor to utilize the gamma treatment Bruce received and that pushes him over into Abomination status. I thought Dr. Stearns injects Blonsky with Banner's actual blood, which results in the Abomination. I need to re-visit that movie. It's terribly under-appreciated.
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May 9, 2016 20:00
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Timby posted:I thought Dr. Stearns injects Blonsky with Banner's actual blood, which results in the Abomination. You're right, it's Banner's gamma blood transfused into Blonsky.
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May 9, 2016 20:05
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MacheteZombie posted:You're right, it's Banner's gamma blood transfused into Blonsky. And part of the problem, at least that Tim Blake Nelson is worried about, is how what's in Banner's blood will interact with what's already in Blonsky, implying that they're different formulas. And both are, I believe, supposed to also be different from the original Captain America serum.
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May 9, 2016 20:09
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Sir Kodiak posted:And both are, I believe, supposed to also be different from the original Captain America serum. Yeah I was trying to confirm this part, the wiki (which I don't fully trust) says it's the original serum.
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May 9, 2016 20:19
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Sir Kodiak posted:And both are, I believe, supposed to also be different from the original Captain America serum. This is what Ross pulls out of storage after Blonsky says that if he were ten years younger, he could have taken the Hulk and Ross responds, "I might be able to arrange something like that."  And I think Reinstein was an alias for Dr. Erskine. So, he got the same serum.
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Timby posted:This is what Ross pulls out of storage after Blonsky says that if he were ten years younger, he could have taken the Hulk and Ross responds, "I might be able to arrange something like that." Nope, Erskine was the only man who perfected the formula, but his death meant the formula was lost. Everything else created to make new super soldiers resulted in massive problems and side effects. This was used as a cheap and easy way to make all kinds of stupid and awesome villains over the years like Winter Soldier, NUKE, Omega Red and others. MCU Abomination's serum made him have bone growths and poo poo even before mainlining Hulk blood. So it obviously wasn't cap's serum. Also in Agent Carter season 1 the last vial of Steve's blood was a minor plot point, since all other samples were wasted trying to make the serum again. MrJacobs fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 9, 2016 |
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MrJacobs posted:Nope, Erskine was the only man who perfected the formula, but his death meant the formula was lost. Everything else created to make new super soldiers resulted in massive problems and side effects. This was used as a cheap and easy way to make all kinds of stupid and awesome villains over the years like Winter Soldier, NUKE, Omega Red and others. That was the second dose that made the bone growths. MacheteZombie posted:A smaller dose at first than Rogers got. Ross has Blonsky injected a second time with a larger dose than the first which creates the bone deformity and starts Blonsky down the path to crazy town. Blonsky then forces a doctor to utilize the gamma treatment Bruce received and that pushes him over into Abomination status. Timby posted:I thought Dr. Stearns injects Blonsky with Banner's actual blood, which results in the Abomination. He fights Abom after the first dose and holds is own for a while before Hulk smashes him into a tree and breaks him.
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