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Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




What's the free space?

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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Ruby is the best

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Regalingualius posted:

What's the free space?

That's what I was having trouble with, because there are so many options.

I'm thinking just a picture of Jaune's face with a dumb expression on it.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
It'd be the only one acceptable,tbh

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

The Shortest Path posted:

That's what I was having trouble with, because there are so many options.

I'm thinking just a picture of Jaune's face with a dumb expression on it.

new plot point out of no where

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
Turns out last episode didn't matter at all
Random fight scene that ends with no relevance to the plot
new character introduced then sidelined for several episodes

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
The first episode of RWBY chibi reveals that Blake is reading porn all the time btw

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Wasn't that the assumption anyway

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Yes, but now it's canon

Ruby outright calls it filth

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
i watched all of season 3 in one go by the power of skipping around cuz I already knew all the plot beats so what the gently caress ever

I think RWBY's problem is that it has a concept of coolness quota and as soon as you do a fight scene and do a bunch of cool stuff then it has to end immediately and unceremoniously like, every loving time

also they stole from star wars four of all things

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

RWBY's other major problem is the pacing being completely and utterly hosed.

Luceid
Jan 20, 2005

Buy some freaking medicine.

Baal posted:

The first episode of RWBY chibi reveals that Blake is reading porn all the time btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O3dAz2j1cg

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-H0KuOwKFYwZTJxbXg0SG5CTEE/view

Shane's open letter about Monty Oum, Ruby, and everything else.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
tl;dr a man died and his creepily hero worshiping co-worker got laid off for complaining/fighting whenever someone did something monty didn't say in his notes and junk

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Who is Shane?

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005

Gamerofthegame posted:

tl;dr a man died and his creepily hero worshiping co-worker got laid off for complaining/fighting whenever someone did something monty didn't say in his notes and junk

That's....actually pretty accurate. Though a few events here and there seemed kinda weird but make sense if a company wants full control of an IP.

Covok posted:

Who is Shane?

Basically Monty's lead animator and some would say second in command.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Skimmed it. I think one part said they're changing from poser to maya. That a step-up? Know nothing of animation.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Did this happen before or after S3?

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005

Darth Walrus posted:

Did this happen before or after S3?

Sounds like most of the craziness was during and after S3.

Covok posted:

Skimmed it. I think one part said they're changing from poser to maya. That a step-up? Know nothing of animation.

Yes for quality no for speed. But could argue otherwise. Monty could work wonders with Poser even though people think its a joke of a software.

Buckwheat Sings fucked around with this message at 23:29 on May 12, 2016

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Darth Walrus posted:

Did this happen before or after S3?

I skimmed it but it had poo poo about S3 in it, supposedly Pyrrha was supposed to 1 on 1 cinder until Jaune showed up and got her killed.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Stormgale posted:

I skimmed it but it had poo poo about S3 in it, supposedly Pyrrha was supposed to 1 on 1 cinder until Jaune showed up and got her killed.

To be frank, that's what I was expecting would happen.

Buckwheat Sings posted:

Yes for quality no for speed.

The show could use a quality boost. But, they need to manage time even better than before.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Covok posted:

To be frank, that's what I was expecting would happen.

Seemed like a neater end, and makes her end seem less suicidal.

Honestly reading through it seems guy had the "Animation is a dream hobby" dream and got hit hard that Rooster teeth treat their poo poo like a business.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
It sounds like some of what we already knew; that Monty was an insane worker but that came at the expense of his work method being totally incompatible with people he hadn't either trained himself or spent a lot of time with. Stuff there about new software and networked drives rather than storing everything locally just sound like fairly normal things an entertainment company would do to try and standardise a department that had been on it's own little world for a long time.

The rest looks like a man going through a very bad time shedding a lot of personal feelings.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Stormgale posted:

Seemed like a neater end, and makes her end seem less suicidal.

Honestly reading through it seems guy had the "Animation is a dream hobby" dream and got hit hard that Rooster teeth treat their poo poo like a business.

Roosterteeth is a business. Surprised people don't realize that.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Stormgale posted:

I skimmed it but it had poo poo about S3 in it, supposedly Pyrrha was supposed to 1 on 1 cinder until Jaune showed up and got her killed.

nah that was in addition to what actually ended up happening, somehow

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Gamerofthegame posted:

nah that was in addition to what actually ended up happening, somehow

The original plan was the fight to happen, Pyrrha to hold her ground then get killed when jaune distracted her, had to take a hit for him etc... or something (by my reading)

Covok posted:

Roosterteeth is a business. Surprised people don't realize that.

But they seem so friendly and not buisnesslike on camera etc... etc...

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Stormgale posted:

The original plan was the fight to happen, Pyrrha to hold her ground then get killed when jaune distracted her, had to take a hit for him etc... or something (by my reading)


But they seem so friendly and not buisnesslike on camera etc... etc...

I know you're taking the piss, but, regardless, I'm just gonna say that's because they want to look unbusiness-like: people hate busines-like stuff influencing entertainment.

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005

Covok posted:

Roosterteeth is a business. Surprised people don't realize that.

Well Roosterteeth's strengths are pretending it's not. As is pretending Ruby being a love letter to anime action. I think it used to be and people overlooked the grit of it since it had that independent vibe attached via Monty.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

The guy who wrote this letter seems to have some unresolved mental issues and likely blacklisted himself from working in animation. His own letter makes him sound insufferable to work with.

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005
Yeah I imagine depression, divorce, and death of a friend would crack someone and most likely that's the cause of his departure. It sounds like they gave him a lot of chances too.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
https://twitter.com/kzuelch/status/730949842378199041
glynda's voice actor says what he wrote is accurate

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Oh this could get very ugly very quickly.

ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 08:41 on May 13, 2016

DanielCross
Aug 16, 2013
For what it's worth, Sheena re-tweeted Shane's original tweet, but doesn't seem to have offered any additional commentary.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy

ConanThe3rd posted:

Oh this could get very ugly very quickly.

i love internet drama

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Stormgale posted:

The original plan was the fight to happen, Pyrrha to hold her ground then get killed when jaune distracted her, had to take a hit for him etc... or something (by my reading)


And here I thought RT had happened on a bit of decent writing, by making Pyrrah out to be someone who believes herself to be the hero of the tale and charge in because that's what is expected of her.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

ConanThe3rd posted:

Oh this could get very ugly very quickly.

Maybe. RT is a business so they'll probably just handled this all behind the scenes and either release a press statement or just hope it dies on its own from lack of exposure.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Malloc Voidstar posted:

https://twitter.com/kzuelch/status/730949842378199041
glynda's voice actor says what he wrote is accurate

she hasn't worked there for three years, lol

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

ArchangeI posted:

And here I thought RT had happened on a bit of decent writing, by making Pyrrah out to be someone who believes herself to be the hero of the tale and charge in because that's what is expected of her.

I think that's why they rewrote it to that instead of what was originally planned by Oum. Gotta give the writers at least some credit.

Metal Ray Sunshine
Jun 16, 2009

Muta's Mating Dance Rates a 5 on the Muta Scale
I read a couple bits and pieces last night and thought I was on his side, but after reading some comments here and looking again, I can see that there is fault on both sides. I didn't really watch after the terrible first season, but I remember after Monty's passing, they were very adamant about keeping Monty's vision alive. One thing I thought about back then was "what if Monty's vision isn't that great?" and it seems like it possibly might have been the case, which lead to some "creative differences" between the company and this guy. From the sounds of what I read, a lot of stuff that has happened that caused this rift was more heat of the moment decisions being made (changing scenes, rushing production, switching animation projects mid animation). It seems kind of lovely that RT didn't want Monty's wife involved at all the project, but maybe there was a reason for that that this guy didn't know about? I hate to say something terrible about this person who is obviously working through some stuff, but in rereading some of this later, it feels like he thought he was going to become Monty 2.0, and when it didn't happen, he thought that the company he worked for was betraying Monty

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Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Explanation I've heard is that Monty's widow isn't with a voice actor union and that she was never that close with the business side of Rooster Teeth except through Monty.

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