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El Scotch posted:I'm not sure what Nissan is getting out of it. I can only presume the Mitsubishi market share outside North America is worth something. In russia, they rebuild lovely lancers and stuff, so maybe there it is.
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And you didn't post the link to that Russian guy pulling the frame on a totaled car back in shape?
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KillHour posted:And you didn't post the link to that Russian guy pulling the frame on a totaled car back in shape?  They're all here: http://autobotanik.livejournal.com/
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MrYenko posted:The RX-8 was an awesome little car in search of a powertrain that didn't suck. The lady who lives upstairs from me just bought an RX8 with 210,000km on it. I warned her about the drive train but "the engine was already replaced at 100k so its ok!"
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Powershift posted:Oh, a frame isn't even a requirement. They really are masters at making deathtraps look inviting.
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tobu posted:The lady who lives upstairs from me just bought an RX8 with 210,000km on it. I warned her about the drive train but "the engine was already replaced at 100k so its ok!" Maybe it was replaced with an LS1!
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Wheeee posted:Maybe it was replaced with an LS1! Put a ring on it
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Put a ring on it If true, that would be the logical course of action.
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El Scotch posted:I'm not sure what Nissan is getting out of it. I can only presume the Mitsubishi market share outside North America is worth something. Plugin hybrid stuff maybe?
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El Scotch posted:I'm not sure what Nissan is getting out of it. I can only presume the Mitsubishi market share outside North America is worth something. From what I've heard, Mitsubishi has good market share in Southeast Asia, where Nissan has had a lot of trouble breaking in. Pretty natural acquisition for them, it seems. Now if they could stop trying to push that loving awful CVT...
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tobu posted:The lady who lives upstairs from me just bought an RX8 with 210,000km on it. I warned her about the drive train but "the engine was already replaced at 100k so its ok!" Get dibs on it then slam an ls1 (or kangaroo-fucker equivalent) in when it suddenly becomes hard to start next week.
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MechaFrogzilla posted:From what I've heard, Mitsubishi has good market share in Southeast Asia, where Nissan has had a lot of trouble breaking in. Pretty natural acquisition for them, it seems. Now if they could stop trying to push that loving awful CVT... Call that asia in general. The lancer is the cheap car to get.
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hey if you have a new 2016/2017 Subaru Legacy or Outback, Subaru wants you to stop immediately and call them because the steering column could fail http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/13/autos/subaru-recall/
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El Scotch posted:I'm not sure what Nissan is getting out of it. I can only presume the Mitsubishi market share outside North America is worth something. I've been watching emerging market car reviews (india, china etc) and they love their mitsubishi SUV's with "massive" 200nm torque
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tobu posted:Toyota is floating the idea of an 86 Shooting Brake at some festival in Melbourne. I kinda want to get a dog. What size dog do you think fits back there? gently caress Subaru and gently caress Toyota for this kind of poo poo and still not upping the power to AT LEAST 250 hp, ideally via turbo. I know this is a polarizing topic, but having owned one for two years I have to say the people complaining about power were right, there should have been a HO version. All the "the power is enough crowd" could still have their cheaper NA version and maybe the dealer will throw in some complimentary saltines or plain lettuce.  blk posted:http://jalopnik.com/nissan-will-take-control-of-mitsubishi-motors-1776219367 On mergers yes, on fun cars no. 
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Mat_Drinks posted:gently caress Subaru and gently caress Toyota for this kind of poo poo and still not upping the power to AT LEAST 250 hp, ideally via turbo. I know this is a polarizing topic, but having owned one for two years I have to say the people complaining about power were right, there should have been a HO version. All the "the power is enough crowd" could still have their cheaper NA version and maybe the dealer will throw in some complimentary saltines or plain lettuce. As someone who owns a brz i wish they would spend time fixing the enormous amounts of road noise and how horribly uncomfortable car is for anything more than a 30 minute drive. Basically the young people buying this car really dont need 250hp at the end of the day, theyre just looking for a cool looking car. Id love for subaru to fix the underlying problems AND add 250hp so i dont have to buy some used cayman, i can hear the endless "oh he drives a porsche he will buy us drinks" jokes from here coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 07:08 on May 15, 2016 |
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Throatwarbler posted:The Chrysler-Mazda merger is still possible, and just getting Mazda to make all of Chrysler's small and midsize sedans would be a good fit. gently caress THAT MrYenko posted:The RX-8 was an awesome little car in search of a powertrain that didn't suck. The engine's fun, it's just all the other stuff aside from driving it that was awful. (Gas mileage, reliability, rotary quirks, etc.) I sort of want Mazda to just put the nail in the rotary once and for all, but I think the rotary is such a part of their heritage that any hope of a sports car beyond the Miata would be done if they didn't have it as inspiration. I think the only thing Mazda is lacking right now is something that is actually *fast,* not just "fast enough." Hopefully that turbo Skyactiv that's coming in the new CX9 works its way down to Mazdaspeed models of the 3, 6, and Miata, but they're such a small company that this stuff is going to take a long time.
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:The engine's fun, it's just all the other stuff aside from driving it that was awful. (Gas mileage, reliability, rotary quirks, etc.) I sort of want Mazda to just put the nail in the rotary once and for all, but I think the rotary is such a part of their heritage that any hope of a sports car beyond the Miata would be done if they didn't have it as inspiration. The Renesis is an abortion with apex seals. It's all of the normal problems of a wankel, without enough power to make them worth dealing with.
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Has any other car company tried for this long and spent this much energy to make one technology work and it never really did?
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fyodor posted:Has any other car company tried for this long and spent this much energy to make one technology work and it never really did? Chevy with their small car platform? 60 degree v6's?
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fyodor posted:Has any other car company tried for this long and spent this much energy to make one technology work and it never really did? *It worked better as a twin turbo W16 marketed towards oil tycoons.
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MonkeyNutZ posted:Yes. Ice cold
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blugu64 posted:Ice cold He's not wrong. 
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blugu64 posted:Ice cold Probably overheating, actually. 
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MonkeyNutZ posted:Yes.  VW couldn't figure out how to make it work beyond the Beetle, so it eventually did what everyone else in the small economy car market did. 
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fyodor posted:Has any other car company tried for this long and spent this much energy to make one technology work and it never really did? Saab and their entire business model.
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SCA Enthusiast posted:Saab and their entire business model. Didn't they just make poo poo cars though rather than endlessly pursue some wacky idea
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MonkeyNutZ posted:Yes. oh poo poo Mazda's turbo Skyactiv is really interesting. I wonder if there's a possibility for RWD applications. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrY4g9EAveg DEUCE SLUICE fucked around with this message at 01:24 on May 16, 2016 |
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Banano posted:Didn't they just make poo poo cars though rather than endlessly pursue some wacky idea They used to make really good cars. Then GM bought them.
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SCA Enthusiast posted:Saab and their entire business model. Uh, hardly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SzG6jqvy-Q Checkmate bud.
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oRenj9 posted:They used to make really good cars. Then GM bought them. To be fair, they used to make really good cars, then they went broke, then GM bought them.
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Banano posted:Didn't they just make poo poo cars though rather than endlessly pursue some wacky idea I though they were a cup holder design firm that happened to make cars on the side. https://youtu.be/l7ULaCgLp6A https://youtu.be/yMxsf7PA95E
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Banano posted:Didn't they just make poo poo cars though rather than endlessly pursue some wacky idea Pretty much. Saab is like the anti Porsche.
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Another problem with SAAB (except setting back the development of a part of my city with 2-3 decades) is that stuff like the interior (and exterior) in a > 2005 car looks like something from early 90's. They really didn't keep up.
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I was making a comment about how they spent so many years overdeveloping and spending so much money on their cars that there was no way they'd turn a profit, and although there are some really good examples of the care they put into the cars (cupholders, for instance), it didn't really translate to consumers. So the endless pursuit was for perfect cars and they never were able to get there, despite spending so much. Mind you, in the last two decades a lot of it was GM's fault.
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You know what guys I was at the Chrysler dealership getting a free wash for my Challenger, and I was sitting around and messing with a Chrysler 200. It... it really wasn't terrible. Granted I didn't drive it, but I actually kinda liked it. Other than the weird knob transmission dial, it was well laid out, had good features, a metric ton of storage, was decently sized... why does it get lovely reviews again? It's sized kind of between small- and midsize- cars, which makes it kind of a weird duck to review stuff against, but really, all I've read are terrible reviews, and I'm wondering if it's all warranted. I also was checking out a new Pacifica they had, and I'll tell you what, if I hated myself enough to daily drive a minivan, I'd get that one. I hope I can rent one later this year to take my family to the east coast. I guess I don't understand a lot of the hate towards Chrysler products. When they had the Avenger and the previous 200 around, yeah, those were awful. Yeah, their cars are kinda heavy relative to other makes. But compared to a lot of the other stuff I've driven (mostly rentals, to be sure)... not too bad, I think.
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Transmission was awful - which has largely been fixed, but the shift programming is terrible. The knob is bad. I actually don't hate the car that much, it's just not better than its competitors. The bar is pretty high at this point.
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Transmission woes aside I think it's less the 200 being bad than the competition being so fierce. Probably snag a great deal on one now, though.
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Hey, at least Saab was way ahead of the competion in realizing how much the keychain dangling on your knee sucks. It's a horrible road hazard when you're speeding on the highways while trying to somehow wrap the keychain around the key. Thousands must die daily because of that!
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