Parallel Paraplegic posted:

I would very much like to see someone win a medal for refilling a fire extinguisher using a killer drone, if that's what you mean.

MisterOblivious posted:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/313727923/Bundy-Report-Jail-Conditions

ansel autisms posted:

Here's some pictures I took at the first pro-LaVoy rally in Portland.

ansel autisms posted:

Bombadilillo posted:

If the ghost of Christmas future showed Lavoy that his death would spark 8 people to hold signs and not the grand revolution.

Would he still have suicide by cop fed state trooper?

Mirthless posted:

Did he really just complain that they didn't let him keep his guns when he went to prison

quote:

Similarly, the Government aptly explains why Defendant’s belief that the Court is involved in a conspiracy with President Obama and Senator Reid displays a lack of respect and/or complete ignorance of the independent role of the judiciary. (Gov’t Resp. 8–10, ECF No. 435). In fact, the spurious allegations raise very serious concerns about defense counsel’s ability to effectively represent his client in this complex criminal case. See Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668 (1984) (a criminal defendant has a constitutional right to effective assistance of counsel); see also Model R. of Prof’l Conduct 3.1 (Am Bar rear end’n 2016) (“A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification or reversal of existing law.”).[footnote omitted]

Discendo Vox posted:

The court response is predictable, but a fun read.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/313779216/05-24-2016-ECF-446-USA-v-Cliven-Bundy-Order-Denying-Motion-to-Dq-Judge-Navarro

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Then there were the embedded video with law professor Louis Michael Seidman. What’s interesting is the “legal scholar” makes a totally unsupported assertion that thinking the words mean what they say is not a “natural” interpretation. Curiously, he concedes “it’s not obvious the federal government should own as much land as it does currently,” but turns around and resorts to the familiar stand-by deflection that we just have no way of knowing “what words written 250 years ago” mean, which is refutable, by the way.

It would seem the citizen has a better handle on things than the academic professional. Perhaps it would have been relevant to let the readers know Seidman brings his own biases to the table, having penned an op-ed for The New York Times where he urges “Let’s give up on the Constitution,” and where he makes his contempt for “a group of white propertied men who have been dead for two centuries [and] knew nothing of our present situation” clear.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

I'm "Am Bar rear end"

Discendo Vox posted:

That's American Bar Association, so it's a good thing to be.

Discendo Vox posted:

The court response is predictable, but a fun read.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/313779216/05-24-2016-ECF-446-USA-v-Cliven-Bundy-Order-Denying-Motion-to-Dq-Judge-Navarro

Choice quote:

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Also lol at the guy basically saying white propertied slave-owning rich men 250 years ago are pure and great and capable of figuring out everything we need today but a modern law professor is much too biased to listen to.

E: I do think that we actually are capable of determining what the founders intended to do with the country though through social history, it's just probably not the wonderful libertarian christian freedom land they imagined.

Mirthless posted:

The federal government better not gently caress up a single one of these trials. If even one of these fuckheads gets his charges thrown out the sovcits will bring it up for decades

Bombadilillo posted:

If the ghost of Christmas future showed Lavoy that his death would spark 8 people to hold signs and not the grand revolution.

Would he still have suicide by cop fed state trooper?

Rick_Hunter posted:

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm fairly sure the federal government is pretty meticulous when it comes to prosecuting someone. They don't charge someone unless they know they're going to win and if not they'll let the person continue to gently caress up while they collect more evidence.

Bombadilillo posted:

If the ghost of Christmas future showed Lavoy that his death would spark 8 people to hold signs and not the grand revolution.

Would he still have suicide by cop fed state trooper?

cumshitter posted:

pornographic sea anemone

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Where did he say that?

ansel autisms posted:

2 more pics. One shows the size of the rally - it was pretty tiny in terms of supporters.

ansel autisms posted:

2 more pics. One shows the size of the rally - it was pretty tiny in terms of supporters.

ansel autisms posted:

Sign dude was a counter protestor, he was extremely chill and said he'd been making protest signs like that for years.

hobbesmaster posted:

All of them? Did the army move into his house?

Goodpancakes posted:

A major in my unit noticed that some of the fire extinguishers missed their inspection date. He got paraded around in front of formation and given a safety award.

Otisburg posted:

A young Second Lieutenant approaches the crusty old CSM and asked about the origin of the commissioned officer insignias. 

The CSM replied, "It's history and tradition ... First we give you a gold bar representing that you are very valuable and also malleable. The silver bar also represents significant value, but is less malleable. When you make Captain, your value doubles, hence the two silver bars. As a Colonel you soar over military masses, hence the eagle. As a General, you are, obviously, a star. Does that answer your question?" 

"Yes," said the Second Lieutenant, "but what about Majors and Lieutenant Colonels?" 

"That goes waaaay back in history ... to the Garden of Eden even. You see we've always covered our pricks with leaves

Jumpingmanjim posted:

So Ammon Bundy for whatever reason has appointed a new lawyer http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/05/ammon_bundy_retains_new_lawyer.html

Marijuana Nihilist posted:

Hopefully he hired a sovcit legal expert who really groks the constitution

quote:

PRINCIPLES

Throughout the course of my campaign, I will focus on the following core principles:

First: God is the author of Natural Law. It is only by following natural law that individuals, families and societies can obtain liberty and happiness.
Second: Family is the fundamental unit of society. This is not just a trite phrase, it is at the core of a life and a society of liberty and happiness. It is critical and of paramount importance. I will speak often and refer back to this principle throughout my campaign and service.
Third: Freedom to… The third and fourth principles are actually a set of principles that I will simply refer to here as the “freedom to/from principles,” such as the freedom to practice religion, the freedom to worship God and to proclaim your religion, the freedom of conscience, speech, and the right to bear arms. This could also include the freedom to run a business or the right to educate your children.
Fourth: Freedom from… The “freedom from principles” contemplate our right to exist in Peace, Prosperity and Harmony unmolested by wrongful government interference or excessive bureaucracy, or to be free from the oppressive economic effects of crony capitalism and cartel privatization. Perhaps most important is the right of the family to be free in the home from wrongful government interference.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

So Ammon Bundy for whatever reason has appointed a new lawyer http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/05/ammon_bundy_retains_new_lawyer.html

Knight posted:

http://archive.is/hcLUs

Knight posted:

Ritzheimer said this was a bad idea on Facebook, Briana Bundy responded telling him NEVER to question her husband!

http://archive.is/hcLUs

Ratoslov posted:

What the living gently caress does 'He does not put his trust in the arm of the flesh.' mean?

Discendo Vox posted:

While I don't think he's a full on sovcit, he's definitely a creature of the right wing; Here's his old state senate campaign site.

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More generally, I can note that he graduated from a fourth tier law school that was founded in 1999 to teach law from a specifically Catholic perspective. Philpot himself is a Mormon, though again I gotta emphasize that the LDS Church is desperately distancing themselves from this whole mess.

The language he's been quoted using so far is the political framing of the land use argument, not the underlying sovcit ideology- but it's still just as wrong. He may be going for jury nullification.