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RandallODim posted:Now try a silencer/dodge/shotgun build and laugh as you sprint around hipfiring down everything in your way. Yeah but silenced shotguns sound lame  How can I Terry Crews if my shotgun goes *thwip* instead of *BOOM*
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Kazinsal posted:Vox's DLC effortpost from earlier this year says the Baby Deagle was at the time OP as gently caress but was in danger of being nerfed. Has it been nerfed, or is it still the best pistol in the game? Thanks for the headsup. Yes, the weapon balance has fundamentally changed, and that post needs a serious update. I'll do so now. edit: done. Let me know if I missed anything. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:It, along with every pistol that was not the Stryk or any sort of revolver, got a fire rate nerf. The Deagle variants got hit the hardest, IIRC going from 667 firerate to 240. They also got meaningless small damage nerfs, but it's mainly the firerate nerf that has hurt it a lot. Even more than cutting 1/3 or so damage off, the fire rate nerf did really hurt. Fire rate nerf is what made me ditch my beloved scoped deagle, cuz I could no longer tap a cloaker in the head fast enough to stop him from kicking me, which was straight loving sad compared to a 108 damage, 96 acc, 100 stab krink. IE "Look vaguely at the cloaker and hold the trigger and he dies"
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Tell me how the CAR 4 and the Gruber Kurz or whatever are now. I know I was using the CAR 4 before and I think that's what pistol I had.
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Jun 5, 2016 13:49
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UnknownMercenary posted:It, along with every pistol that was not the Stryk or any sort of revolver, got a fire rate nerf. The Deagle variants got hit the hardest, IIRC going from 667 firerate to 240. They also got meaningless small damage nerfs, but it's mainly the firerate nerf that has hurt it a lot. Are the revolvers still kind of garbage, or can I make a pistolero build, at least?
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When was the last time you played the game? It's an honest question, because revolvers (and all pistols, really) got a massive buff when they did the huge weapon rebalance last October. They walked back a few buffs and gave them massive firerate nerfs, but the revolvers have remained largely untouched. All of the revolvers do 180+ damage (enough to kill all common cops on Deathwish in 1 headshot) and have ~50 rounds in reserve.
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Jun 5, 2016 14:04
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Lemon-Lime posted:Are the revolvers still kind of garbage, or can I make a pistolero build, at least? Revolvers are absurdly good hand cannons.
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Jun 5, 2016 14:08
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Are there any up to date resources for enemy health? I'm trying to min/max my damage but googling only results in various spreadsheets that haven't been updated in like 2 years.
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Jun 5, 2016 14:09
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Tempest_56 posted:Revolvers are absurdly good hand cannons. Excellent. I might make an akimbo + revolver build just to use the Mateba. Do akimbo SMGs use the akimbo skills in Gunslinger at all, or do they purely use Oppressor stuff?
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Jun 5, 2016 15:20
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The akimbo skill applies to akimbo SMGs as well, I assume it's just placed in the pistol tree because akimbo pistols are more prominently featured in the game.
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King Gonorrhea posted:Are there any up to date resources for enemy health? I'm trying to min/max my damage but googling only results in various spreadsheets that haven't been updated in like 2 years. Search for "Payday 2 Long Guide." Towars the end, there should be a section with cop health values.
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Jun 5, 2016 17:00
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Lemon-Lime posted:Are the revolvers still kind of garbage, or can I make a pistolero build, at least? The mateba and the bronco are both good, the peacemaker is fun but it's hurt by the super slow reload and the spin you do when you switch to it.
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So any of the people here familiar with LUA know if there's a way to make it so holding down the melee button just results in attacking rapidly instead of charging?Grapplejack posted:the peacemaker is fun but it's hurt by ... the spin you do when you switch to it. what the gently caress
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Jun 5, 2016 17:24
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Grapplejack posted:The mateba and the bronco are both good, the peacemaker is fun but it's hurt by the super slow reload and the spin you do when you switch to it. You have to channel your inner Ocelot more. 
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Jun 5, 2016 17:26
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chairface posted:It was amusing watching Blanks continue to plummet beneath the geometry. Unfortunately the video from my perspective wouldn't show much...I got stuck in the freefall position on the floor, moved a bit laterally, then continued to freefall below the map. But yeah aced Uppers is an incredible skill, especially for any heist/cheevo where you have to hold out in one spot. Probably second only to Inspire, and in some ways it may be better.
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Concordat posted:what the gently caress Laputanmachine posted:You have to channel your inner Ocelot more. Whoa whoa I'm not saying its a bad thing but sometimes you gotta switch real quick to pop a cloaker for a teammate or whatever. It's still a good weapon and it's super fun to use
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Grapplejack posted:The mateba and the bronco are both good, the peacemaker is fun but it's hurt by the super slow reload and the spin you do when you switch to it. Mods???
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Jun 5, 2016 18:04
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I'm bummed there's dual deagles but not dual revolvers.
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Jun 5, 2016 18:09
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Jun 5, 2016 18:13
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Laputanmachine posted:We need dual Judges and we need them yesterday. Dual Judges, dual Peacemakers (I don't care how long the reload is!), dual Broncos/Matevers. Also dual Stryks.
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Jun 5, 2016 18:16
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M.Ciaster posted:Yeah but silenced shotguns sound lame what if it goes PISSHHH instead of *BOOM* Grapplejack posted:The mateba and the bronco are both good, the peacemaker is fun but it's hurt by the super slow reload and the spin you do when you switch to it. take bloodlust ace, smack a bitch with the pounder or katana or whatever, and then reload pansy
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Jun 5, 2016 18:28
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What are people's thoughts on Ammo Efficiency, the top-tier Sharpshooter skill? I'm almost always using either an AR or a Sniper for my primary, so it would fit my play style, but I don't have a good feel on if it's a big help or not. Along those lines, are using SMGs in single-fire mode actually that useful, even with Sharpshooter's bonuses? It seems like SMGs are made for auto-fire.
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Zigmidge posted:Does the overkill damage increase affect your turrets? No, it does not.
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Jun 5, 2016 18:44
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Gilg posted:What are people's thoughts on Ammo Efficiency, the top-tier Sharpshooter skill? I'm almost always using either an AR or a Sniper for my primary, so it would fit my play style, but I don't have a good feel on if it's a big help or not. Along those lines, are using SMGs in single-fire mode actually that useful, even with Sharpshooter's bonuses? It seems like SMGs are made for auto-fire. I use Ammo Efficiency with my R93/OVE9000 SAW build and it's pretty good, if you can line up headshots with a Sniper Rifle you can bascially get free double-headers. Even if you get overwhelmed, popping a laser on the gun allows you to still pop heads at close range when unscoped. It's basically a 50% ammo bonus if you can click heads efficiently. Tried that with the Compact-5 and it didn't click for me, I think that I'd be better off with it in auto mode.
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Gilg posted:What are people's thoughts on Ammo Efficiency, the top-tier Sharpshooter skill? I'm almost always using either an AR or a Sniper for my primary, so it would fit my play style, but I don't have a good feel on if it's a big help or not. Along those lines, are using SMGs in single-fire mode actually that useful, even with Sharpshooter's bonuses? It seems like SMGs are made for auto-fire. The big damage rifles generally don't need the help in my experience, unless you're doing a mostly stationary hold out, like on Rats. In that case sure it can be neato.
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YellerBill posted:Dual Judges, dual Peacemakers (I don't care how long the reload is!), dual Broncos/Matevers. Also dual Stryks. We have a Keanu Reeves character but no dual micro Uzis which is a travesty.
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Grapplejack posted:The mateba and the bronco are both good, the peacemaker is fun but it's hurt by the super slow reload and the spin you do when you switch to it. After loving around with pistols a bit, the advantage you get from having 180 damage with a six shot, slow reload weapon versus just using a White Streak or Baby Deagle (which do 120 damage but have magazines 2-3 times the size) doesn't seem to be there, even with the rate of fire difference. What's the draw for revolvers, specifically? Unrelated to revolvers: did the balance patch that normalised AR damages finally fix the AUG and a couple of other ARs having totally hosed hipfire multipliers?
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YellerBill posted:Dual Judges, dual Peacemakers (I don't care how long the reload is!), dual Broncos/Matevers. Also dual Stryks. Dual peacemakers could work with their reload being replaced with being thrown at cops.
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I was playing Cook-off and the audio glitch happened. The one what used to afflict Hotline Miami where gradually all sound effects would stop playing, even the music. Guy in the game thought it was caused by his sensor mode tripmines.
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Lemon-Lime posted:Unrelated to revolvers: did the balance patch that normalised AR damages finally fix the AUG and a couple of other ARs having totally hosed hipfire multipliers? Yeah, basically all guns have the CAR-4's stance modifiers. Ammo pickup is also been standardized. You don't need to look up arcane stats anymore.
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I just played Slaughterhouse on ovk with some pubs. There were 3 gas cans which was a first for me. What's the third can for?
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Laputanmachine posted:I just played Slaughterhouse on ovk with some pubs. There were 3 gas cans which was a first for me. What's the third can for? Idiot insurance.
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King Gonorrhea posted:Are there any up to date resources for enemy health? I'm trying to min/max my damage but googling only results in various spreadsheets that haven't been updated in like 2 years. This site is pretty useful to check if your damage is passing a relevant breakpoint: http://tonyfox.ws/payday2/breakpoints/ It's technically out of date since it still shows a bunch of low damage values that no weapon has anymore (since ~35 is now the lowest damage in the game), but just ignore those and start paying attention around 39.9 damage. Enemy health hasn't actually changed... ever? Since the introduction of Death Wish, I guess.
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The AA-12 is so crazy good with the shotgun skills now, kills everything in one or two shots, reloads in like a second and has enough range that you can use it as an assault rifle in most cases.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Yeah, basically all guns have the CAR-4's stance modifiers. Ammo pickup is also been standardized. You don't need to look up arcane stats anymore. Awesome.
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Laputanmachine posted:I just played Slaughterhouse on ovk with some pubs. There were 3 gas cans which was a first for me. What's the third can for? There's more gas cans than are needed in hotline miami day 1 too. The extras are just extras and not for anything. A lot of maps with C4 drops don't have you use all the C4 either.
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On Slaughterhouse, sometimes I've seen the truck hang, and once it was on the floor. Is it random or is there a way to bring it down?
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Shooting at the window of the armored car at the beginning of the heist makes it so it lands front-down into the slaughterhouse, with wires holding it up that you need to shoot. This is how you get the achievement for just waiting for it to fall. Otherwise it is probably random.
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I made an Oppressor/Tank/Ammo Specialist build with an AK-74 and Micro-Uzi and I fully intend to spend my entire life spraying down cops at torso level from the hip and never aim down my sights at anything. Shame the LMGs really require silencers to shine.
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