Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

So let's list the creative sources behind Star Citizen's development:

• This thread
  
• Google image search
  
• Chris' imagination
  

In descending order. I forgot any?

Daztek posted:

Daztek posted:

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

I don't believe that even you believe that.

Here's what I think, and let me know if I'm hitting close to home: I think you see the writing on the wall. I think you know how this poo poo is going to go down and you know that while some people do mean for the best for SC, upper management is less than competent and that the odds of CIG delivering anything even close to what they are suggesting they deliver is about zero. But I also think you don't want to give up your position in the community, whether it be for 'prestige' or simply because you want to see the fireworks from a closer seat. I think the second the project no longer is obviously viable to even the densest of SC backer, you'll jump ship and tell a story or three -- A day which I look forward to a great deal by the way!

Orions Lord posted:

I was just wondering about the costs etc.
And at work there is not much to do atm.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QJXN6npjVaMuzkyX4ggg_w3lcsJihkC86TndCpCJmNg/edit?usp=sharing

Very rough I am missing a lot of info but it's a start.

ManofManyAliases posted:

So - no: you are nowhere close to home. You have absolutely no clue what's going on behind the scenes and are just projecting sentiment in this forum because that's what is expected of you. Want to be upset that you're not fed more screenshots of a working game? Want to feed on the childish, impatient emotions of entitled redditors that want what they want and need everything yesterday? Do it. This is as effective an echo-chamber as is that loving subreddit, as are the CIG forums, etc. In other words: not effective at all. What you perceive as effecting change when DS or another goon or a rouge redditor or whomever else makes a prediction is nothing but coincidence or speculation of a forced puzzle-piece when CIG is not even playing withe same puzzle. Are CIG's methods towards game development unorthodox? Yeah. Could this whole process be more streamlined, industry-norm and cleaner? Yes. But again, this is not a project like others out there.

That said, two things I want to note:

1) Some here, on reddit and CIG forums (or could just be the same people on all three) are quick to claim SCAM or FRAUD. The FBI, FTC, State AGs and other authorities are not idiots. I know from experience that when something with this much steam and attention becomes more public daily, people and authorities will take an interest in it. And such, if the notion of a scam or fraud ever became anything more, authorities would not wait for four years to effect an investigation (even just to start one). They most especially wouldn't allow a company to continue to accept donations/pledges/etc, to the tune of 100+ million dollars.

2) Aside from just a very small handful of lesser-known gaming media outlets, and perhaps one-three better known outlets, this forum (which represented, at one time, what, 300-400k worth of pledges?) and perhaps some discontent people on CIG forums and reddit, where else do you see people screaming SCAM and FRAUD?

No, what I think is happening is a lot of frustrated, impatient people want to see stuff NOW, and when they see items broken in testing - in alpha - they can't stand having shelled out real cash (which they were never forced to do - mind you) and not immediately seeing the benefits. There have no doubt been setbacks, missed deadlines, poor management decisions, etc, but I never believed there to be malcontent, intention to deceive or defraud, or the like.

So, think what you want: this is forum for discussion, no? I am still under the belief that CIG has a lot under wraps and we will get to see the fruits of that hard work and development while the naysayers remain silent.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

So let's list the creative sources behind Star Citizen's development:

• This thread
  
• Google image search
  
• Chris' imagination recollection of better SciFi franchises
  

In descending order. I forgot any?

e: fixed

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I'm a bit sad Ryan got refactored, I'd have loved to see more of "his" "art"

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

So let's list the creative sources behind Star Citizen's development:

• This thread
  

D_Smart posted:

never forget the lols.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Fair question. If I had the option, I likely would have pledged less - yes. However, of my 4k pledge, I've already made back $1,250 on sales.

edit: the Frankencode that you are seeing is older implementation of mPU that hasn't been updated with the newer developments from the Foundry 42 side. Give it time - once Foundry ramps down SQ42 they'll likely be able to port a lot of that over for mPU use.

D_Smart posted:

He will never admit to that. The closest he has ever come is saying "...yeah, I know there are problems. so loving what?"

Google Butt posted:

seriously why do you care so much to defend it like something you have a lot invested in

D_Smart posted:

uhm, sorry, but no. That's not how that works. There is a reason that the PU and SQ42 were branched off so that the poo poo that is the PU stays out of SQ42 code base. For one thing, the latter doesn't have multiplayer. So that's quite a bit of crap already stripped.

If they want they can of course integrate assets, and even minor bug fixes which are common between both code branches. But to assume that PU (multiplayer) is going to somehow benefit from SQ42 (single-player) in any meaningful fashion, is pure - and utter - bullshit.

Truga posted:

Page looks like this on my box lmao they can't even make a decent page.

D_Smart posted:

He will never admit to that. The closest he has ever come is saying "...yeah, I know there are problems. so loving what?"

ManofManyAliases posted:

Nothing wrong with taking my stance and defending it. I'm of the opinion that, although they are claiming open development (at least more open than some other projects we see), there is still much under wraps that won't be shown.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Nothing wrong with taking my stance and defending it. I'm of the opinion that, although they are claiming open development (at least more open than some other projects we see), there is still much under wraps that won't be shown.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Nothing wrong with taking my stance and defending it. I'm of the opinion that, although they are claiming open development (at least more open than some other projects we see), there is still much under wraps that won't be shown.