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Blue has been getting nothing but garbage like Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time for ages.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 02:42 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:55 |
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It's me, the guy who is here to say that green has been an integral part of every single top deck from Innistrad/RTR through now with the exception of weird-rear end RTR/Theros standard full of nothing but devotion decks + the best deck that went away after that rotation. Seriously, Jund, N/A, Abzan, 4c Rally (OGW), GW Tokens. These decks do/did tend to play somewhat differently, but they're all midrange decks in one way or another (with some KTK block variants coming closest to control but never quite making it there.) It turns out that when you give green great card advantage in addition to good/great creatures, you just pair it with a removal color, whether that's white, black, or both, and you've got a deck. It doesn't help that white is really drat strong in SOI, which, uh, maybe should have been thought about when development stuck every keyword on avacyn and then gave her a wrath effect too If I had to give suggestions, it's that R&D is focusing on the wrong thing to take away from green: you should be experimenting with less value on creatures, and definitely never giving green better card selection/draw than blue ever again, not trying to pretend that 1 mana difference in inevitably long games via elvish mystic makes up for things like 4/5 vigilance for 2 Black has been fine except for thoughtseize and pack rat.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 02:46 |
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Babylon Astronaut posted:I'll buy that, but blue's card draw is less powerful compared to what? As a long time player, it seems like between RTR and now been extremely powerful blue card draw. There hasn't been a truly good or efficient draw spell printed in blue since Jace Vryn's Prodigy was released. I think R&D have been trying to be super careful about him breaking standards. Notice all the good blue spells he was casting from the graveyard were printed before he was.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 03:15 |
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Count Bleck posted:This is exactly why I ignore people's comments about new cards and bulk buy dumb poo poo like Goblin Rabblemaster when everyone keeps telling me it's a bulk rare and I shouldn't be wasting my nickels.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 03:20 |
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Algid posted:I really don't understand how people didn't see rabblemaster was a great card. It's not only good as is, it was printed into a standard with a very obvious monored shell for it to go in. i still put him in as a one of in jund all the time for FNM. Honestly, he always seems great when I get him out on turn 3 even in modern. He honestly should be a card people play.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 03:37 |
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Every color is the worst, every standard is the worst, every format is the worst, I don't know why we even play this wretched game, it's clearly terrible.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 03:41 |
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Sickening posted:i still put him in as a one of in jund all the time for FNM. Honestly, he always seems great when I get him out on turn 3 even in modern. He honestly should be a card people play. I put him in legacy Jund once as a 1-of. Almost single-handedly won the game against Lands when I cast it on turn 2, then I lost. Entropic posted:Every color is the worst, every standard is the worst, every format is the worst, I don't know why we even play this wretched game, it's clearly terrible. This but unironically.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 03:49 |
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Sickening posted:i still put him in as a one of in jund all the time for FNM. Honestly, he always seems great when I get him out on turn 3 even in modern. He honestly should be a card people play. I had him in my Modern Goblins list as a pseudo-Piledriver, then actual Piledriver became Modern-legal and I haven't looked back. I held on to my copies though, someday I'll try it again.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 04:16 |
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Entropic posted:Every color is the worst, every standard is the worst, every format is the worst, I don't know why we even play this wretched game, it's clearly terrible. People really shouldn't play magic
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 04:39 |
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C-Euro posted:I had him in my Modern Goblins list as a pseudo-Piledriver, then actual Piledriver became Modern-legal and I haven't looked back. I held on to my copies though, someday I'll try it again. It was more of a comedy option than a real card but its surprising how often he was so good. It seems that a turn 2 bob/goyf would bait a removal and then he would just take over a game. Yes it kind of sucks when your turn 3 play eats a bolt without doing anything, but there are a lot of creatures that do that these days.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 04:50 |
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Remember when we all made jokes about $50+ creatures dying to 50-cent removal spells? Good times.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 04:55 |
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What's the viability of a deck that pitches Newmrakul into the graveyard, puts it back on top of your library with Not Forgotten, then draws into it with Sorin's +1? Too much setup? Also, is reanimating her with Ever After too costly to be any good? It seems like being able to exist in a graveyard could be a mixed blessing over the original.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 04:58 |
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NofrikinfuN posted:What's the viability of a deck that pitches Newmrakul into the graveyard, puts it back on top of your library with Not Forgotten, then draws into it with Sorin's +1? Too much setup? Get her back with Dragonlord Kolaghan and swing for 19 seems alright. I know SaffronOlive had a Jund Ever After deck with Kolaghan + Atarka as the reanimation targets, and it was pretty sweet when it went off.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 05:11 |
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NofrikinfuN posted:What's the viability of a deck that pitches Newmrakul into the graveyard, puts it back on top of your library with Not Forgotten, then draws into it with Sorin's +1? Too much setup? Do you get to play Green in this deck? Preferably White too.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 05:30 |
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Does virtually every half critical discussion in this thread have to end on some variation of "you're all whiners"?
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 05:46 |
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Rinkles posted:Does virtually every half critical discussion in this thread have to end on some variation of "you're all whiners"? Stop whining.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 05:49 |
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I thought blue was going to be a thing when those two guys made it to top 8 with Esper dragons and Esper walkers control decks. Blue and black are also the weakest colors in SOI draft.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 07:26 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Blue has been getting nothing but garbage like Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time for ages. Yeah but blue has worse draw than green or black right now.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 08:19 |
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Jesus
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 09:33 |
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Dev tumblr ala Rosewater's blogatog, albeit only updated weekly. Ian Duke wrote the introquote:WELCOME TO THE MAGIC DEVELOPER’S BLOG! http://wizardsdeveloper.tumblr.com/ Answers start next week. I've always admired Wizards' culture of R&D transparency, this is another cool move.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 10:26 |
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Historically speaking, other than elves, green has struggled the least with dying to nameless inversion.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 12:20 |
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rabidsquid posted:Historically speaking, other than elves, green has struggled the least with dying to nameless inversion. Blue has the ability to smack nameless inversion and wag its finger at the caster for trying.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 12:52 |
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Blue actually can't do anything about Nameless Inversion, because of Crucible of Worlds and Boseiju.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 12:55 |
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rabidsquid posted:Blue actually can't do anything about Nameless Inversion, because of Crucible of Worlds and Boseiju.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 13:09 |
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That card isnt standard legal
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 13:14 |
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Problem???
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 13:15 |
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rabidsquid posted:That card isnt standard legal
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 15:59 |
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that's even further off.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:04 |
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Holy gently caress.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:21 |
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mfcrocker posted:Holy gently caress. Oh, wow.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:26 |
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mfcrocker posted:Holy gently caress. Yeah, hoping for another pair of Exemplar nominations soon.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:28 |
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Wow, finally some decent FNM cards.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:31 |
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I think we already knew the first two but whatever. FNM promos for July/August/September, in that order:
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:32 |
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Elyv posted:I think we already knew the first two but whatever. FNM promos for July/August/September, in that order: loving yawn.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:35 |
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GeneX posted:It's me, the guy who is here to say that green has been an integral part of every single top deck from Innistrad/RTR through now with the exception of weird-rear end RTR/Theros standard full of nothing but devotion decks + the best deck that went away after that rotation. Actually that was the last standard I played and Reanimator was pretty green and quite good. Before that it was Jund again as well!
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:35 |
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Spatial contortion is an okay promo. I'm not sure anyone in any format wants to play with crumbling vestige, not even if they're trying to cast colourless spells after painlands rotate. Flaying tendrils would be playable in a format where the aggro decks aren't build around dudes that easily get to 3 toughness. It's probably never going to see play before it rotates.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:39 |
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Those are two kick rear end promos, I hope they are given out at conferences because zero judges I know have ever gotten an Exemplar nomination.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:42 |
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Some Numbers posted:Wow, finally some decent FNM cards. The Mana Drain and Azusa are Exemplar promos. Ciprian Maricon posted:Those are two kick rear end promos, I hope they are given out at conferences because zero judges I know have ever gotten an Exemplar nomination. Really? How come? I don't know if my region is so far not the norm, but even I have managed to do something right and get a nomination. As to conferences, they might be 'special' for them, but I don't know what the habit for that is, with the Exemplar program being new and all.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:45 |
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I have no concept of how the exemplar thing is supposed to work.
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# ? Jun 24, 2016 16:46 |
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Goddammit, my joke got ruined by actual FNM cards getting posted. Oh well, it probably wasn't that funny anyway. Serperoth posted:The Mana Drain and Azusa are Exemplar promos.
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