UKMT July 2016 - Thank you very much. Do doooooo do do. Right.

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Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Cerv posted:

Agreed
When 'Blairism' referred to that particular strain of thought in Labour 90s/2000s that was ok. Now that it people use it to mean every disparate member bar Corbyn, McDonnel & Abbot it's as good as meaningless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism

Words don't have an expiry date.

EDIT: And that particular "strain of thought" hasn't actually stopped and it's making GBS threads up Labour for everyone involved.

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 2, 2016

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Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

stefania_r posted:

Note the lack of phrase "X's daughter". That's how you can tell that their hearts aren't really in it.

edit: Oh good we're moving towards the US in terms of religion and politics.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:28

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

I've never heard of Andrea Leadsom before today, not once.

edit:

quote:

Inheritance tax

Following her appointment, it was discovered that she had placed her shares in a buy-to-let property company, which she had started with her husband in 2003, into trusts for the benefit of her children. This is a move that is commonly used to avoid inheritance tax. She also took advantage of offshore banking arrangements for the property company in an apparent contradiction to George Osborne�s attempts to crack down on tax avoidance.[19] A spokesperson for Leadsom said: �This is a normal corporate situation and all tax that is due is being paid. None of the loans for the properties are based offshore�.

Donations from family firm

There was further criticism when it was revealed that she had received a series of donations totalling �70,000 from a firm based in London but owned by her Guernsey-based brother-in-law, Peter de Putron, via a holding company in the British Virgin Islands tax haven.[20] Leadsom�s husband Ben is a director of the firm which made the donations, which were used to pay the salaries of staff in Leadsom�s Westminster office after her election as MP; the firm has also made donations of �816,000 to the Conservative party.[21] Because the firm making the donations, Gloucester Research (later becoming GR Software and Research) was based in London the donations conformed to the rule banning political donations from abroad. The Labour MP Tom Watson said: �These very large donations might be within the rules, but it certainly isn�t right that a Treasury minister has been taking money in this way. Most reasonable people will see this as completely unreasonable�.[20]

Hoops fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Jul 2, 2016

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:29

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

Cerv posted:

Agreed
When 'Blairism' referred to that particular strain of thought in Labour 90s/2000s that was ok. Now that it people use it to mean every disparate member bar Corbyn, McDonnel & Abbot it's as good as meaningless.

That's Blairist talk, Comrade Cerv.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:30

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Regarde Aduck posted:

edit: Oh good we're moving towards the US in terms of religion and politics.

TRADITIONAL VALUES. The Murdoch Effect is so hilariously transparent, including the utter failure to realize that the UK isn't the USA and just "Christian" and saying how much you love God every six seconds isn't actually a requirement to run for office.

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Hoops posted:

I've never heard of Andrea Leadsom before today, not once.

edit:

hahaha are you serious

yeah she actually seems Republican as gently caress.

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jul 2, 2016

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:38

josh04: Oct 19, 2008; "THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835

quote:

Labour leadership: Eagle in fresh appeal for Corbyn to quit

Again?!

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:50

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Barry Foster posted:

Finally some good news. What happened?

I feel really lovely about not getting involved in all this

local media reporting that the anti-fash turned up in the thousands, the fash considerably lower. Any skirmishes were due to anti-fash trying to find the fash, but Ober can probably confirm the details

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:52

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

Caroline Aherne has died of throat cancer, really sad.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:53

HJB: Feb 16, 2011; I can't get enough of are Dan

Hoops posted:

Caroline Aherne has died of throat cancer, really sad.

loving hell, everything is poo poo.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:55

Laradus: Feb 16, 2011

HJB posted:

loving hell, everything is poo poo.

This is one loving awful year.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:56

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

Holy poo poo, the Daily Telegraph is running a story about a "60,000-strong hard-Left army" being recruited by Corbyn.

If loving only.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 15:57

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

josh04 posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835

Again?!

Eagle is really showing some energetic and credible leadership by repeatedly begging an old man to quit because she doesn't have the guts to run against him.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:00

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Holy poo poo, the Daily Telegraph is running a story about a "60,000-strong hard-Left army" being recruited by Corbyn.

If loving only.

at least they didn't put it in the most sinister-sounding terms possible

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:01

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

Barry Foster posted:

Finally some good news. What happened?

I feel really lovely about not getting involved in all this

Massive turnout of just general public and UAF etc. AFN Blackblock chased fash back into soton central station and they got put on trains home by the feds after the main demo turned up and surrounded the station.

Some fuckhead from a tv comedy show was walking around with a tv crew going up to abtifa and ssying "sorry i just dont like black people" i guess for s funny but on the tv? He got chased out of the city too.

To the person asking about glasgow afn - sorty, never met them personally, but get in touch and arrange a meet if you can. We're all lovely.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:02

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Why are British politicians so gutless? I'm seriously getting more stunned everyday by UK politics and its passed the realm of funny and into the realm of depressing.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:02

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/how-boris-johnson-was-brought-to-his-knees-by-the-cuckoo-nest-pl/

Reading this Telegraph write-up of just how badly Gove has hosed over Boris, it really would have been great drama in a normal situation.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:04

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Miftan posted:

Is he gonna yell at the moon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:07

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

This cant be good

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:08

Jippa: Feb 13, 2009

I can't imagine corbyn punching any thing.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:09

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Holy poo poo, the Daily Telegraph is running a story about a "60,000-strong hard-Left army" being recruited by Corbyn.

If loving only.

Awesome. Where do I sign up and how long til I get my Mosin-Nagant?

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:09

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Holy poo poo, the Daily Telegraph is running a story about a "60,000-strong hard-Left army" being recruited by Corbyn.

If loving only.

Dumbledore's Army

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:11

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

Yinlock posted:

at least they didn't put it in the most sinister-sounding terms possible

If you don't anger easily (or care about the truth), the Daily Telegraph is a great source for updates on the Labour leadership issues. They're really trying to push Corbyn as the figurehead of a violent revolutionary socialist insurrection.

Again, if loving only.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:11

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

If you don't anger easily (or care about the truth), the Daily Telegraph is a great source for updates on the Labour leadership issues. They're really trying to push Corbyn as the figurehead of a violent revolutionary socialist insurrection.

Again, if loving only.

Looking at the dumpster fire that is Britain, that would be the only way to save the country now.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:15

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

Oh, and noted twat Dan Hodges has noticed that the Tories are likely going to have a female leader, and is already laying the groundwork for dismissing any and all criticism as hard-left misogyny.

I really need an interest that doesn't make me this angry on a Saturday afternoon. I might take up hang gliding.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:19

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248

What does "strictly protect" mean here?

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:19

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

They're definitely going to be able to cherry-pick some misogyny from Twitter people in Momentum.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:21

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

If only there were another prominent female tory leader who a large section of the public might think was a huge shitter.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:21

PST: Jul 5, 2012; If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Protest march in York was good today, about 5-600 there. Decent speakers on the whole at the end, particularly the non-political ones who just wanted to express their views. The Green Party activist who hard-swerved from Brexit to 'down with capitalism' and 'smash the state' rhetoric was losing a lot of the angry conservative/libdem leaning crowd but he managed to get it back on track by the end of his speech.

York's MP, newly appointed Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment got in some nice EU-Environmentalism points to appease the greens there.

Funnily enough Julian 'I hate gays and poor people' Sturdy who was one of the 81 who pressured Cameron in the first place didn't want to appear and be jeered.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:21

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Hoops posted:

They're definitely going to be able to cherry-pick some misogyny from Twitter people in Momentum.

I wish someone would call politicians out when they do this poison the well poo poo

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:25

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

this is what stella creasy's been up to: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/07/stella-creasy-labour-party-running-empty

she does have a point but lol

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:29

UnquietDream: Jul 20, 2008; How strange that nobody sees the wonder in one another

Hoops posted:

What does "strictly protect" mean here?

I would assume as it's from an diplomatic briefing memo thing it means "hey, don't say if you have to talk about this, where our info came from".

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:31

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

TheRat posted:

This cant be good

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248

Incidentally, Wikileaks were pushing for a Brexit, due to concerns they had regarding the European Arrest Warrant.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:36

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Hoops posted:

What does "strictly protect" mean here?

It means that she's somebody the CIA would see no harm befall.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:39

GEORGE W BUSHI: Jul 1, 2012

TinTower posted:

Incidentally, Wikileaks were pushing for a Brexit, due to concerns they had regarding the European Arrest Warrant.

They were, but there wasn't any suggestion that they were falsifying diplomatic cables to do so, so I'm not sure that that's relevant here.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:46

Extreme0: Feb 28, 2013; I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!

Oberleutnant posted:

Some fuckhead from a tv comedy show was walking around with a tv crew going up to abtifa and ssying "sorry i just dont like black people" i guess for s funny but on the tv? He got chased out of the city too.

Social experiment prank 2016 YouTube video.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:51

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

TinTower posted:

Incidentally, Wikileaks were pushing for a Brexit, due to concerns they had regarding the European Arrest Warrant.

That's not really incidental, is it? So much as it's totally irrelevant. Yeah, Wikileaks was founded by a creep who is going to hide in the Ecuadorian Embassy until 2020 to avoid an investigation into his behaviour. Can't quite see how that's related to a Labour MP being a protected source of the US. Also notable that a Tory MP gets similar treatment.

But the bit I liked the most was the final paragraph of the cable: "replacing a sitting Labour leader an arduous task procedurally". Almost as if it's relevant today...

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:03

Antares: Jan 13, 2006

i can't keep up, is Corbyn a weak, ineffectual, emotionless buffoon right now or is he in "fiery, ruthless warlord heading an endless army of brocialists" mode still

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:06

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

Antares posted:

i can't keep up, is Corbyn a weak, ineffectual, emotionless buffoon right now or is he in "fiery, ruthless warlord heading an endless army of brocialists" mode still

He's both, the crafty bastard

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:08

His Divine Shadow: Aug 7, 2000; I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Someone linked that Mark Blyth guy earlier and here's a more recent one where he comments on Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arT40qHKuHQ

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lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Mark Blyth is really great.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:22

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