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Karl Sharks posted:is he a erdogan supporter or dissenter? ANadolu is Erdogan's mouthpiece, but Akar was very close to Erdogan lately.
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Young Freud posted:Let's not to say Russia might have some intelligence assets in a neighboring country that could make it look like an ISIS attempt on a vocal critic of theirs. "Da, I know the way to Angliiskij Embassy!" said the cab driver
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Jul 15, 2016 22:14
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fspades posted:This coup must have been long in the making, but lately Erdogan was trying to purge the judiciary. If you planning to do a coup that's the alarm bell for you. He already sorta purged the judiciary. Erdogan's moves towards dictatorship have been going on for years; it's what makes the timing of this so mysterious.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:14
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Thug Lessons posted:Yeah it's Morsi all over again. It's pretty different because the Kumal tradition will probably restore pseudo democracy unlike in Egypt.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:15
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https://twitter.com/DiegoCupolo/status/754054719933444096 oh poo poo if true.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:15
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quote:The head of the Istanbul branch of Turkey’s ruling AK party says soldiers entered the party building and asked them to leave, CNN Turk reports.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:15
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Ilustforponydeath posted:This didn't work last time. 
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Jul 15, 2016 22:16
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Thug Lessons posted:Yeah it's Morsi all over again. I mean in this scenario don't we have more negotiating power since they want to remain on good terms with NATO/the US? Can't we just say "Cool, we'll accept this if you promise to not gently caress with the Kurds."? Doesn't seem like they'd be in a position to say no.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:16
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Emanuel Collective posted:He already sorta purged the judiciary. Erdogan's moves towards dictatorship have been going on for years; it's what makes the timing of this so mysterious. Yeah, I'd have to guess its the latest overtures to Russia that were likely the tipping point. But a coup of this sophistication takes a while to plan, so figure this has been in the pipeline for a few months at least.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:16
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https://twitter.com/Haber7/status/754055254459703298 MHP are denouncing the coup
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Jul 15, 2016 22:16
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Sky News are outlining that Edrogan has apparently escaped to Bodrum?
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Jul 15, 2016 22:17
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fspades posted:ANadolu is Erdogan's mouthpiece, but Akar was very close to Erdogan lately. oh okay, and thanks thread for answering my dumb questions 
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Jul 15, 2016 22:17
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If people can't remember Erdogan was full rear end in a top hatquote:As for Alpay, he can no longer air his opinions in the pages of the Zaman newspaper, since police stormed its offices and installed court-appointed trustees earlier this month.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:18
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Averrences posted:Sky News are outlining that Edrogan has apparently escaped to Bodrum? is that like a pro-erdogan stronghold or something?
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Jul 15, 2016 22:18
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Rookersh posted:I mean in this scenario don't we have more negotiating power since they want to remain on good terms with NATO/the US? Well I wouldn't bet on that working, but what I REALLY wouldn't bet on is the west actually trying something like that. Sad to say, I doubt they see the Kurds as important enough to be worth the risk of further instability in the region should the military refuse (and given how much they really don't like the Kurds I would not be surprised in the slightest if they did whatever the consequences).
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Jul 15, 2016 22:18
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Rookersh posted:I mean in this scenario don't we have more negotiating power since they want to remain on good terms with NATO/the US? If the US wanted to go to bat for Bakur and Rojava and was willing to make concessions in other areas, (which probably means dumping the rest of the rebels), maybe. I don't see that as the likely US position though.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:19
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/DiegoCupolo/status/754054719933444096 Erdogan going to get the President Diem treatment, I bet.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:19
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Michael Scott posted:What are you doing instead? And also what were you doing in Turkey? A holiday from all this conflict stuff I do.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:20
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Averrences posted:Sky News are outlining that Edrogan has apparently escaped to Bodrum? Brown Moses tweeted out a news report saying he was headed to Ataturk, so who knows.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:20
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My Turkish diplomat buddy is hunkering down safely And wondering whether this will delay her next out of country posting which was supposed to start in like August.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:20
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Thug Lessons posted:The question is whether it's the entire military, or a faction. They have infantry, tanks, gendarmes, attack helicopters, and fighter jets, if it's a faction is a pretty drat big one.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:20
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Brown Moses posted:A holiday from all this conflict stuff I do. 
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Jul 15, 2016 22:20
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:Wouldn't the US have far fewer scruples defending their kurdish allies against a coup force than against their other ally? The coup force is still that other ally, minus the ISIS supporter president.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:21
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Karl Sharks posted:is that like a pro-erdogan stronghold or something? no it's a holiday resort in a CHP aligned province
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Jul 15, 2016 22:21
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Brown Moses posted:A holiday from all this conflict stuff I do. you sure can pick 'em
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Jul 15, 2016 22:21
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Nice coup, gg guys. My dinner didn't even go cold. My only criticism would be lack of real time streams of the action. Still, there's always next time for that.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:21
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The disaster here isn't if the coup succeeds or fails, it's if it half succeeds/fails generating wider instability throughout Turkey. Success or failure is a major blow to institutional stability, an incomplete ongoing situation is a cause for wider instability that invites a spread of violence.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:21
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Apparently state TV is broadcasting the military's message now. -New Constitution being prepared -Last government was undemocratic and violated human rights -The country is being ruled by a Committee for Peace which will provide public safety and order - The Committee for Peace will guarantee all human rights regardless of race, religion or native language - Martial Law is declared
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Jul 15, 2016 22:21
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Brown Moses posted:A holiday from all this conflict stuff I do. Seriously?
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kustomkarkommando posted:no it's a holiday resort CHP are anti-erdogan, yes? skimming wikipedia quickly
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Jul 15, 2016 22:22
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Fox News: “Is Pokémon GO to Blame for the Coup in Turkey?”
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Jul 15, 2016 22:23
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Really though this is absolutely insane
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Jul 15, 2016 22:23
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On reflection perhaps Napoleon should not have invaded Egypt
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Jul 15, 2016 22:24
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IronDoge posted:
Don't the young people generally loving hate Erdogan, and wouldn't their social media be blowing the gently caress up with joy that he's being booted?
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Jul 15, 2016 22:24
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Brown Moses posted:A holiday from all this conflict stuff I do. Next time you should go somewhere with a nice and stable ruthless dictatorship with an iron grip on the populace
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Jul 15, 2016 22:25
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HighwireAct posted:Fox News: “Is Pokémon GO to Blame for the Coup in Turkey?” The pilots were just flying low to look for Pokemon, this checks out.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:26
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Watch Brown Moses start a loving coup.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:26
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All I want to know is when we'll be getting reports of daesh going through the border being mowed down by the hundreds instead of being begrudgingly let through
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Have any military coups produced lasting sociopolitical stability?
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