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Panzeh posted:It's awesome watching a coup in action. I don't know how people even had wars or revolutions before twitter.
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coffeetable posted:bloodless coups have fewer helicopters shooting at government buildings someone said they were shooting at the area outside of it, no idea how true that is, might be a show of force rather than attempt to injure/kill are there any NATO clauses or some poo poo that require member states to held heads of state?
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So the guy who called any critical protesters atheists, leftists and terrorists is now calling on the people to save his rear end.
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Constant Hamprince posted:https://twitter.com/mike_giglio/status/754069454926016512 Does anyone know his tail number? I'd like to track my escaping dictators in real time.
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Pakled posted:How does the Turkish minority in Germany generally feel about Erdogan? Ethnic Turks in Germany are not at all homogenous. I would, on balance, say that his image increased recently because some anti Erdogan stuff from "ethnic Germans" was perceived as anti Turkish, and thus united many Turks in Germany behind him.
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Rincewinds posted:If Erdogan was on a plane heading to Turkey, the military must been forced to start early for some reason, because one would have expected them to wait for the plane to land first. Otoh if he's in the air he can't respond easily
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Morrow posted:Urban areas are generally opposed to the AKP, they drew their support from rural conservatives and religious-types. haha the turkish gop
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Insurrectionist posted:Will we have our first ever stateless person stuck in a perpetually flying airplane? He'll probably redirect to Switzerland where his remaining money is.
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Funnily enough my mother's near Antalya and was telling me about this cool military air show going on just a few hours ago... 
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Hammerstein posted:So the guy who called any critical protesters atheists, leftists and terrorists is now calling on the people to save his rear end.
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Captain Stalin posted:Holy gently caress, if that's true. I wanted to read that tweet but it didn't work. Because I'm on my vacation. In Alanya. 
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Jul 15, 2016 22:54
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Erdogan blamed the "parallel structure" again on his weird skype call, usual call outs to a certain gentleman in Pennsylvania. Seems pretty sure the Gulenists are behind this
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Fojar38 posted:Ahahahaha Merkel must have been really displeased about that whole libel deal.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:55
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Is there any one besides NBC reporting that he is in a plane? Everyone else is saying that he's in a Hotel somewhere.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:55
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I would watch a sitcon where Erdogan is a old guy that lives in a small appartament in new york and nobody believes he was once president in turkey. but the reality is that we don't know to what side the ball will fall, he may still retain power after all of this, we don't know
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Jul 15, 2016 22:56
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Karl Sharks posted:are there any NATO clauses or some poo poo that require member states to held heads of state? doubt it but even if there were at this point, is he really a head of state if he can't land in the country he's supposedly head of state of?
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Gonna wait for actual confirmation on this, but if it's true Holy poo poo
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I take back what I said, this is an outcome I would've never have guessed.
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Baronjutter posted:Holy poo poo, a few weeks ago I was reading about how corrupt and insane Turkey's leader was, his brand of religious populism and obvious desires to erode democracy and rule of law was infuriating. I thought "hey, doesn't the Turkish military usually step in when the rural religious idiots manage to get too much power and try to destroy the secular republic Ataturk founded?" and bam here we are. If you're hoping for a more friendly policy towards Kurdish groups in Syria such as the PYD/YPG then secular turkish nationalists are gonna leave you sorely disappointed.
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kustomkarkommando posted:Erdogan blamed the "parallel structure" again on his weird skype call, usual call outs to a certain gentleman in Pennsylvania. Seems pretty sure the Gulenists are behind this A presidential source has said: “This is a coup attempt by the Gulen movement, at which several known Gulenists hinted in recent months. The perpetrators have violated the chain in command.”
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Jul 15, 2016 22:57
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I thought the consensus was that Erdogan had de-fanged the military to prevent this very thing from happening? Was everyone just wrong?
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Reason posted:doubt it but even if there were at this point, is he really a head of state if he can't land in the country he's supposedly head of state of? yeah, never watched a coup go down like that where the president flees, trying to land in an allied nation, so 
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loving hell, regime change a Vatnik can agree with.... Edit: Also, watching the comments on the RT coverage (they just had a pretty informed sounding turkish professor) is like staring in the Abyss.
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Erdogan must be glad that thanks to him Turkey has a free, multifaceted, unrestrained media and that censure, especially of the internet, is frowned upon. Without his liberal media culture legacy it would be hard to fight the army when in exile.
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Konec Hry posted:I wanted to read that tweet but it didn't work. Because I'm on my vacation. It was in response to the reports of Germany not letting Erdogan's plane land. I'm so sorry about your vacation plans, stay safe.
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Jul 15, 2016 22:59
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Thunder Moose posted:A presidential source has said: “This is a coup attempt by the Gulen movement, at which several known Gulenists hinted in recent months. The perpetrators have violated the chain in command.” The Gulen movement is pretty liberal, pro-science, and pro-democracy compared to the current Middle Eastern zeitgeist.
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snyprmag posted:I thought the consensus was that Erdogan had de-fanged the military to prevent this very thing from happening? Was everyone just wrong? the military's been on the rise recently
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Constant Hamprince posted:Lets just say he should probably just spend all his Lira and not bother trying to save any to convert back. I don't know, he would be converting back to British Pounds...
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Jul 15, 2016 23:00
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snyprmag posted:I thought the consensus was that Erdogan had de-fanged the military to prevent this very thing from happening? Was everyone just wrong? Guess he missed a few fangs.
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Jul 15, 2016 23:00
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Pakled posted:The Gulen movement is pretty liberal, pro-science, and pro-democracy compared to the current Middle Eastern zeitgeist. So, naturally, NATO will instead try to reinstate Erdogan into power and then act all surprised why Turkey's the new home base for daesh
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Jul 15, 2016 23:00
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If anyone was still unsure just HOW irredeemable a piece of poo poo Erdogan is... well, exhibit A would be all of the obvious false-flag terrorist attacks his regime has committed trying to frame the Kurds, which will probably be brought to light quickly now that he's no longer in power. But if that's too "conspiracy theory" for you, here's some of his thoughts on domestic policy and gender equality from about a month ago: http://time.com/4357867/turkey-women-children-incomplete-president-erdogan-islam Turkey’s President Says Muslims Can’t Accept Family Planning and Birth Control Oh, and he was in the process of transforming Turkey's secular school system into one controlled by religious institutions and filled with Islamist doctrine. He's a criminal against the Turkish constitution, and we can only hope he pays dearly for it.
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snyprmag posted:I thought the consensus was that Erdogan had de-fanged the military to prevent this very thing from happening? Was everyone just wrong? Turns out purging the military is a risky business, and may lead to unexpected consequences. It requires a very robust internal control system to ensure that the replacements of the purged officers won't be even less loyal than the original staff; The Soviet Union was able to form such a vetting structure, most developing countries aren't.
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https://twitter.com/intlspectator/status/754072007222829057 https://twitter.com/halilisse/status/754072324140331008
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Jul 15, 2016 23:01
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http://www.twitter.com/endeavoringE/status/754071471794819072 Doesn't look like he's on an airplane after all EDIT: Possibly prerecorded footage, but OP is saying it was live
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Jul 15, 2016 23:01
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snyprmag posted:I thought the consensus was that Erdogan had de-fanged the military to prevent this very thing from happening? Was everyone just wrong? I would say that Erdogan has been weakened over the last year or so with increasing terror attacks from both ISIS and Kurdish groups, a very uneven policy in the Syrian civil war and Erdogan becoming ever more controversial through his attempts at gathering more and more power around himself.
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