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Dr Cheeto posted:Is the AA12 strong enough now with just 000 and shotgun skills? I love it but I haven't tried it without giving up the warm and fuzzy security blanket of berserker and wondered what you thought. I think it has, like before, ammo issues as it's pickup is not as good as that of the other shotguns. Might be me talking out of my rear end, haven't used that thing forever but last night my buddy was hitting the ammo sacks like there was no Day 2.
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ClonedPickle posted:How is fighting shitposting with more shitposting "using powers for good?" It's just more chaff to scroll through. Don't listen to this herbert, theorycrafting new map variants is actually fun and entertaining, as well as being peripherally related to the game somehow. There should be more nighttime versions of maps/map events that make flashlight mods handy, at least.
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McSpanky posted:There should be more nighttime versions of maps/map events that make flashlight mods handy, at least. No.
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UnknownMercenary posted:I just don't think the accuracy boost helps that much when I already go for low accuracy/high stability with my machineguns. Plus, in that specific 'do everything' build I also use shotguns, where I don't want extra accuracy since that skill applies to all guns. You know I'm the polar opposite when it comes to modding for accuracy. I was just poking fun though. Kikas posted:I think it has, like before, ammo issues as it's pickup is not as good as that of the other shotguns. Might be me talking out of my rear end, haven't used that thing forever but last night my buddy was hitting the ammo sacks like there was no Day 2. Sounds about right. The pickup rate on it isn't absolutely terrible, but you can't just TerryCrews.mp4 with it all the time and expect to come out ammo neutral.
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McSpanky posted:Don't listen to this herbert, theorycrafting new map variants is actually fun and entertaining, as well as being peripherally related to the game somehow. There should be more nighttime versions of maps/map events that make flashlight mods handy, at least. Dying Light heist when
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BillmasterCozb posted:Dying Light heist when Lab Rats Ideas (alpha): The order of the nine ingredients is fully randomized. The Muriatic Acid zipline is removed. All dozers replaced with Headless Titandozers. Full cook (7 batches) required. Timer Safe required. The spider breathes fire about 5 seconds after its arrival, filling the area it covers with a molotov effect.
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Discendo Vox posted:Lab Rats You are a monster.
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ClonedPickle posted:How is fighting shitposting with more shitposting "using powers for good?" It's just more chaff to scroll through. Because he's gonna post Death Vox anyway, might as well use it to try and derail a flurry of shitposts. Discendo Vox posted:Lab Rats These are almost all actually good ideas, the zipline removal aside. The spider, at the very least, needs some serious up-scaling because it's a drat shame that it's as impotent as it is.
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Discendo Vox posted:Lab Rats All bags must be thrown into the skill shot flask.
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ok but just hear me out, it'd be great for a halloween heist you'd have to survive in the slums of Harran during the night, when all the cops mutate into horrifying beings - Cloakers are volatiles, bulldozers are demolishers, tasers are toads, and shields are gas tanks Bonus points if they somehow include a difficulty unique to that heist where a fifth player controls Wolf as a night hunter
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John Murdoch posted:A machine gun build doesn't take much more than everything in Oppressor sans Heavy Impact, pretty much everything else is up to you. For the perk deck, assuming you're not going for some crazy hybrid dodge thing, I'd go with Muscle for the panic chance (on top of being a good pick in general) plus ICTV. The only real variation beyond that is adding silencer perks for even more DMG/ACC/STB (though keep in mind silent guns don't proc Muscle's panic effect). If you really want you can also sneak in a few extra skills from Sharpshooter since not all of them are locked to single fire guns. This is all pretty accurate. Take and ace basically all of Oppressor (skip Heavy Impact if you're taking Shock and Awe, which you should if you're going ICTV), get Fully Loaded if you can, and you're golden. Buzzsaw if you're going to bipod, KSP if you're going to run and gun, RPK if you're afraid of long reloads and just want an oversized AR.
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I'd like to see something more done with the basement of Diamond Heist. Maybe throw some loot or one of the hack power boxes down there.
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So as a goon who preordered this game and only played/updated it since the white christmas heist with drunken fun in the woods since I have been graced with the holy gift known as windows 10 what's the main poo poo i should know about other than "shoot cops and hold the action button many times"? Do I ~need~ to buy some dlc? why is the hk g36 rifle shittier than i remember?
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EorayMel posted:Do I ~need~ to buy some dlc? the only 3 that come highly recommended are the barbeque pack for the grenade and flamethrower being awesome, the wolf pack because the china lake grenade launcher is amazing, and the overkill pack because the rocket launcher erases bulldozers (and everything else). if you do not care about these weapons you do not need them to be effective. everything else is to your own taste.
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Gage mod courier pack is also very useful, given the absolutely ridiculous number of weapon mods out there and the interminable wait to get even basic functional ones.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Gage mod courier pack is also very useful, given the absolutely ridiculous number of weapon mods out there and the interminable wait to get even basic functional ones.
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Even without goonmod, the mods that you can get from the courier pack are super-useful.
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DV Lab Rats thoughts: I think the ingredients for the 7th batch of meth will be inside the cloaker safe. There's not really much else I can do with lootbags because of the map layout. The better zipline will spawn. The flare will be in the same place, but the escape chopper will come somewhere on the lower level. The pills you use to start each cook will be placed further from the zipline you use them on- maybe somewhere near the witch location. Plan Z posted:I'd like to see something more done with the basement of Diamond Heist. Maybe throw some loot or one of the hack power boxes down there. Yeah, the layout and flow of Diamond Heist is all kinds of screwed up, I haven't been able to make much progress there. Huge swaths of the map go almost completely unused, to no positive effect.  Did You Know? Originally, the basement floor of Diamond Heist was as large and complex as the rest of the museum! If things went loud and the diamond retracted into the floor, you would have to traverse the basement storage area to reach the diamond in some sort of holding mechanism. Very little information about how this part of the heist was going to work is known.
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Coolguye posted:everything else is to your own taste. I'd recommend the Gage Shotgun pack if you have absolutely ANY interest in using shotguns - the special ammo types alone make it worthwhile.
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I kinda wish they'd do something like "The Custom update" or w/e and they'd give us a few more matte and wood materials for masks and some new color combinations. Or hell, change it so instead of the current combos you get paint chips like in gran turismo and you can apply two of them to a color set, that'd be rad.
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Yeah, custom paint jobs would work wonders on masks, I wonder why they haven't added any more colors in at all though
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This thread is making me wish payday2 had friendly fire.
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chairface posted:This thread is making me wish payday2 had friendly fire. It does.
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chairface posted:This thread is making me wish payday2 had friendly fire. RPG and molotovs
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I gotta bring an RPG more.
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I managed to down my entire team with the RPG when I was trying to clear out the sewers at the end of Birth of Sky with it. We managed to recover, but it was still a really big "Whoops!" moment.
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So reading how the skin system for Payday 2 works... confuses the loving poo poo out of me. Has anyone been able to figure this poo poo out?
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Skunkrocker posted:So reading how the skin system for Payday 2 works... confuses the loving poo poo out of me. Has anyone been able to figure this poo poo out? What do you not understand?
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Reith posted:What do you not understand? I'm just used to UV maps and stuff. I've read the tutorial site several times now and I think I got it.
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Skunkrocker posted:I'm just used to UV maps and stuff. I've read the tutorial site several times now and I think I got it. So it's strictly the technical stuff, not the administrative nonsense we've been arguing about for the last few days?
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Shooting Blanks posted:So it's strictly the technical stuff, not the administrative nonsense we've been arguing about for the last few days? Ban thread, gas blanks.
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The truth. I tried it out on the Biker Heist and without Nerves of Steel, I was merrily slow-reviving someone in the middle of a pile of cops with two snipers and a black bulldozer shooting me on top of the pile and literally wasn't taking any damage. The armour regen is so ridiculously fast. I don't even know what to spend my skills on, because once you've got all the frenzy and melee skills and an ICTV you can just sprint around with a katana as Jiro screaming garbled japanese and lopping heads off without even touching guns. It's like a PS1 era game with cheats, it's crazy.
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Shooting Blanks posted:So it's strictly the technical stuff, not the administrative nonsense we've been arguing about for the last few days? I thought that was obvious.
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So back on track hopefully. Any explanation on the whole crit system? I know it's a thing with the low concealment "low blow" feature but my low conceal weapons deal a minimum of 90 damage anyways. Is there much of a point or just stick the points somewhere else? (Side note Blanks, made a dodge hybrid build based off of your own, but I keep rotating the weapons trying to find a good match. Currently between the M308 / RPG (or flame thrower / CR805) or Shotguns Raven / Judge)
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My understanding is that crits consist of a roll for each hit, and if it falls within your crit chance range it applies the headshot multiplier, again if you hit them in the head. It's mostly useful for occasionally reducing the number of shots for specials and the like, in a 'well if you're running Sneaky Bastard Basic you might as well get Low Blow Basic too since you've probably got silencer skills' kind of way, but it's less integral than the bonus dodge chance.
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Skunkrocker posted:I thought that was obvious. Next time I'll just make an assumption and run with it.
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Crits are great for many reasons, among them the fact that you can crit on a headshot and the multipliers stack and it's a fairly easy way to boost explosive damage. An explosive bow or a HE shotgun get really funny with crits.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Crits are great for many reasons, among them the fact that you can crit on a headshot and the multipliers stack and it's a fairly easy way to boost explosive damage. An explosive bow or a HE shotgun get really funny with crits. Yeah, they're really most useful with HE and high RoF guns. The latter turn into Dozer hoses if you get slightly lucky with rolls, and it's pretty great to just run up to one and just unload a full clip into his face knowing it'll almost certainly kill him.
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Also: crits work with the flamethrower
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RandallODim posted:Yeah, they're really most useful with HE and high RoF guns. The latter turn into Dozer hoses if you get slightly lucky with rolls, and it's pretty great to just run up to one and just unload a full clip into his face knowing it'll almost certainly kill him. My biggest issue is that unless I'm going against dozers or turrets, it's a major point sink. I have enough into silenced at the moment to take the concealment bonus for silenced weapons but points are tight on this build, what with running Iron Man basic, artful dodger, shout AND sneaky.
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