"The Hollywood Remake" Soft re-boot thread.

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Germstore: Oct 17, 2012; A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Best live action comedy opening since Pitch Perfect 2. A triumph.

Pitch Perfect 2
Opening Weekend 69M
Budget 29M

Ghostbusters
Opening Weekend 46M
Budget 144M

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:39

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 14:52

Pvt.Scott: Feb 16, 2007; What God wants, God gets, God help us all

HEY, SOCIAL PROGRESSIVES, WATCH OUR GHOST FART MOVIE, THE JOKES ARE MADE BY WOMEN!

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:40

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

NutritiousSnack posted:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-analysis-why-ghostbusters-911836?utm_source=twitter

In a recent interview with THR, Rothman insisted the online bashing was "the greatest thing that ever happened. Are you kidding me? We’re in the national debate, thank you. Can we please get some more haters to say stupid things?"

At the same time, Sony made sure to court males in its marketing campaign, creating special promos that aired during the NBA Finals on ABC between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Golden State Warriors.

It's impossible to determine whether the naysayers hurt the movie because the opening weekend demographics were inconclusive. Men didn't exactly stay away, but women didn't show up in compensatory numbers either.

Wowzers

Also forgot about the new ice age. Thatll kill it

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:40

NutritiousSnack: Jul 12, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

lol. the "social progressives" wont go see the movie, just like they wont buy your games, trying to dovetail your ad campain and articles exclusively to them directly and making GBS threads on everyone else will only backfire. its the same with the right and trying to get voters.

The interesting thing is this: After all the social media buzz, almost no young people came out to see it. It was all middle aged people.

NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jul 18, 2016

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:42

Germstore: Oct 17, 2012; A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Where the gently caress do they get off calling Ghostbusters a live action comedy but not Deadpool?

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:46

eric: Apr 27, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

Well there you go you loving MRAs are you happy now?

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:46

JediTalentAgent: Jun 5, 2005; Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Now another question: Would this movie have done better or worse had it NOT been a Ghostbusters movie and instead been something akin to a "Ghostcorps presents... _______"

I mention months ago that outside of the MIB arena, the Ghostbusters formula films don't historically do well: RIPD, Frighteners, Evolution, The Watch, etc. But despite this, had this simply been something other than Ghostbusters, might it have had some better reception? Something someone said about Feig is that his films are sort of known as satires of other films/genres, but with a focus on comedic female leads. Spy is of the Spy Genre film, Bridemaids was the men-behaving-badly film with women, The Heat was the buddy cop movie, etc.

As a not-GB, It becomes a satire of the GB formula films of the last 25 years and not specifically a GB film.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:52

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

eric posted:

Well there you go you loving MRAs are you happy now?

# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:55

Nanomashoes: Aug 18, 2012

eric posted:

Lol there's definitely not going to be another ghost busters. Sony is a trash company being kept on life support by the ps4.

A lot of people keep saying this but Sony's most consistent profits have always come from their Insurance and Financials division, which they only operate in Japan for some reason.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:01

Al Cowens: Aug 11, 2004; by WE B Bourgeois

Well there you go you loving MRAPs are you happy now?

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:04

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

JediTalentAgent posted:

Now another question: Would this movie have done better or worse had it NOT been a Ghostbusters movie and instead been something akin to a "Ghostcorps presents... _______"

at the end of the day, it's still made by Paul Feig, and tentpoles (i loving hate that term) clearly aren't his strong point, so no

Nanomashoes posted:

A lot of people keep saying this but Sony's most consistent profits have always come from their Insurance and Financials division, which they only operate in Japan for some reason.

probably for regulatory reasons, i'd imagine. also that makes them like Konami, who make bank from Japan-only pachinko machines and not video games

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:06

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

I hope all involved get pinned by their luxury automobiles to their front gates.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:12

Sunswipe: Feb 5, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

JediTalentAgent posted:

Now another question: Would this movie have done better or worse had it NOT been a Ghostbusters movie and instead been something akin to a "Ghostcorps presents... _______"

I mention months ago that outside of the MIB arena, the Ghostbusters formula films don't historically do well: RIPD, Frighteners, Evolution, The Watch, etc. But despite this, had this simply been something other than Ghostbusters, might it have had some better reception? Something someone said about Feig is that his films are sort of known as satires of other films/genres, but with a focus on comedic female leads. Spy is of the Spy Genre film, Bridemaids was the men-behaving-badly film with women, The Heat was the buddy cop movie, etc.

As a not-GB, It becomes a satire of the GB formula films of the last 25 years and not specifically a GB film.

I don't think the genre you've created there has enough films in it to do a satire of. Airplane! worked because it wasn't just a parody of Zero Hour, it was mocking disaster movies in general. There were plenty of stock characters to make fun of: the priest/doctor doing his best to keep everyone together, the reluctant hero who has to rise to the occasion, the cute but brave female lead, etc. Look at the films you've listed and what stock characters are there? One guy who's snarky all through the film and that's about it.

The other advantage for Airplane! was it was released at a time when disaster movies, and specifically aircraft disaster movies, were in vogue. Chances were the cinema goer would have recently seen something that was being parodied. Ghostbusters doesn't have that because of how long it's been since the last movie of it's genre, and even longer since a successful one.

So no, I don't think doing this as a non-Ghostbusters satire of Ghostbuster-like movies would work. It needed to be a solid reboot of the franchise, and neither the director nor cast were good enough for the job. Of course, that's just my opinion. But when you're basically saying "Remember how awesome Bill Murray was in that old film? Well we've got MELISSA MCCARTHY in ours!" you're in trouble.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:19

Krypt-OOO-Nite!!: Oct 25, 2010

Pvt.Scott posted:

HEY, SOCIAL PROGRESSIVES, WATCH OUR GHOST FART MOVIE, THE JOKES ARE MADE BY WOMEN!

Well it was the first fart joke I've laughed at in years so there's that.
Why do you creeps keep calling people social progressives?
Also how do you MRA types get through life having a problem with women?, I mean a normal bigot probably doesn't have to deal with people who are more brown than them or foreign or like dick all that often but you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday so it's kinda nuts to be all weird about them.

Oh and you fuckwits have ruined my childhood memories of Ghostbusters, god drat all I had to do was think of those movies or the cartoon or the dumb toys and I'd get a happy feeling, now if i think of them I end of thinking of you loving weirdos and how there's people that want those uppity bitches in their place even nowadays and it just makes me pissed off and depressed.
So nice one dickheads...

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:21

The Grimace: Sep 18, 2005; Are you a BigMac of imbeciles!?

JediTalentAgent posted:

Now another question: Would this movie have done better or worse had it NOT been a Ghostbusters movie and instead been something akin to a "Ghostcorps presents... _______"

I mention months ago that outside of the MIB arena, the Ghostbusters formula films don't historically do well: RIPD, Frighteners, Evolution, The Watch, etc. But despite this, had this simply been something other than Ghostbusters, might it have had some better reception? Something someone said about Feig is that his films are sort of known as satires of other films/genres, but with a focus on comedic female leads. Spy is of the Spy Genre film, Bridemaids was the men-behaving-badly film with women, The Heat was the buddy cop movie, etc.

As a not-GB, It becomes a satire of the GB formula films of the last 25 years and not specifically a GB film.

I don't really know.

I think the movie is underperforming (to audience expectations) for several reasons. The big positive is that Ghostbusters is a beloved movie people have been wanting another sequel to for 27 years. The female cast is polarizing with different demographics, but most people can atleast appreciate that it is different from the original Ghostbusters and it was a step to make a different movie.

The downsides are a mixture of things. These 27 years, people were wanting a Ghostbusters sequel, not a reboot. With each year, the idea of a true sequel became more and more impossible with the actors aging, culminating with Ramis's death. Paul Feig's insistence that he not be hampered by the original films' existence is documented as the reason why the film is a reboot and not a sequel. A lot of people were definitely hoping for treatment of the plot closer to Force Awakens where the original actors still played a reasonable (if only small) part and weren't delegated to strange cameos that ultimately took the audience out of the movie. Feig's obsession with arguing with the public also turned away viewers.

If the movie didn't have the "Ghostbusters" moniker, there wouldn't be anywhere near as much drama from the PR fallout as there was, but it also would not appeal to a larger audience consisting of existing Ghostbuster fans either. It's an interesting prospect, but I don't think it's easy to gauge how well the movie would have done otherwise.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:21

Germstore: Oct 17, 2012; A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:

Well it was the first fart joke I've laughed at in years so there's that.
Why do you creeps keep calling people social progressives?
Also how do you MRA types get through life having a problem with women?, I mean a normal bigot probably doesn't have to deal with people who are more brown than them or foreign or like dick all that often but you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday so it's kinda nuts to be all weird about them.

Oh and you fuckwits have ruined my childhood memories of Ghostbusters, god drat all I had to do was think of those movies or the cartoon or the dumb toys and I'd get a happy feeling, now if i think of them I end of thinking of you loving weirdos and how there's people that want those uppity bitches in their place even nowadays and it just makes me pissed off and depressed.
So nice one dickheads...

I'm glad of it.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:22

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

Has patton weighed in

Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:

Well it was the first fart joke I've laughed at in years so there's that.
Why do you creeps keep calling people social progressives?
Also how do you MRA types get through life having a problem with women?, I mean a normal bigot probably doesn't have to deal with people who are more brown than them or foreign or like dick all that often but you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday so it's kinda nuts to be all weird about them.

Oh and you fuckwits have ruined my childhood memories of Ghostbusters, god drat all I had to do was think of those movies or the cartoon or the dumb toys and I'd get a happy feeling, now if i think of them I end of thinking of you loving weirdos and how there's people that want those uppity bitches in their place even nowadays and it just makes me pissed off and depressed.
So nice one dickheads...

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:26

ANIME IS BLOOD: Sep 4, 2008; by zen death robot

Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:

Well it was the first fart joke I've laughed at in years so there's that.
Why do you creeps keep calling people social progressives?
Also how do you MRA types get through life having a problem with women?, I mean a normal bigot probably doesn't have to deal with people who are more brown than them or foreign or like dick all that often but you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday so it's kinda nuts to be all weird about them.

Oh and you fuckwits have ruined my childhood memories of Ghostbusters, god drat all I had to do was think of those movies or the cartoon or the dumb toys and I'd get a happy feeling, now if i think of them I end of thinking of you loving weirdos and how there's people that want those uppity bitches in their place even nowadays and it just makes me pissed off and depressed.
So nice one dickheads...

source ur srs quotes

Germstore posted:

I'm glad of it.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:27

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:

you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday

heh, that's what you think

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:30

F1DriverQuidenBerg: Jan 19, 2014

I think people really wanted another Bill Murray movie and somewhere over the years just got really confused.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:32

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

NutritiousSnack posted:

The interesting thing is this: After all the social media buzz, almost no young people came out to see it. It was all middle aged people.

Robocops don't go to movies, or buy video games. Oops. They only protect and serve.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:37

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

Didnt they shelve f42

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:42

Al Cowens: Aug 11, 2004; by WE B Bourgeois

Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:

Well it was the first fart joke I've laughed at in years so there's that.
Why do you creeps keep calling people social progressives?
Also how do you MRA types get through life having a problem with women?, I mean a normal bigot probably doesn't have to deal with people who are more brown than them or foreign or like dick all that often but you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday so it's kinda nuts to be all weird about them.

Oh and you fuckwits have ruined my childhood memories of Ghostbusters, god drat all I had to do was think of those movies or the cartoon or the dumb toys and I'd get a happy feeling, now if i think of them I end of thinking of you loving weirdos and how there's people that want those uppity bitches in their place even nowadays and it just makes me pissed off and depressed.
So nice one dickheads...

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:49

The Grimace: Sep 18, 2005; Are you a BigMac of imbeciles!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn_vAcFGTJU

comic book girl still really chill and speaking reason

# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:57

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Al Cowens posted:

Plebcomics is great

# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:02

je1 healthcare: Sep 29, 2015

It's me, I'm the proud cluck

reminder that the internet tricked an anti-Trump superPAC into labeling themselves proud corks

# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:08

Microwaves Mom: Nov 8, 2015; by zen death robot

Y-Hat posted:

i'll never vote for donald trump, but if he brings up how many american movie roles are played by aussies, brits etc. and how that should stop, i'll agree with him. bonus points if he brings up Rebel Wilson and points to the fact that there's no shortage of fat blond American women who can do the same thing she does

you're one or two debates away from a trump vote friend.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:22

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

Boy when do the trump hillary debates start

# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:34

Microwaves Mom: Nov 8, 2015; by zen death robot

Uncle Wemus posted:

Boy when do the trump hillary debates start

Not soon enough.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:34

Kaiju Cage Match: Nov 5, 2012

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# ? Jul 18, 2016 22:13

Pvt.Scott: Feb 16, 2007; What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Krypt-OOO-Nite!! posted:

Well it was the first fart joke I've laughed at in years so there's that.
Why do you creeps keep calling people social progressives?
Also how do you MRA types get through life having a problem with women?, I mean a normal bigot probably doesn't have to deal with people who are more brown than them or foreign or like dick all that often but you have to talk and be emotionally attached to women everyday so it's kinda nuts to be all weird about them.

Oh and you fuckwits have ruined my childhood memories of Ghostbusters, god drat all I had to do was think of those movies or the cartoon or the dumb toys and I'd get a happy feeling, now if i think of them I end of thinking of you loving weirdos and how there's people that want those uppity bitches in their place even nowadays and it just makes me pissed off and depressed.
So nice one dickheads...

I was mocking Paul Feig's retarded pot-stirring there. I'm actually glad there are more female leading-roles these days that involve the characters doing the heavy plot lifting rather than as a companion of the protagonists at best.

If nothing else, Ghostbusters introduced me to Kate McKinnon who I now even know exists. I've checked out some her previous work the last couple days, despite not having been interested in SNL for years, for example. I like her poo poo and I would like to see more of her. She was really the most enjoyable part of the movie for me.

As for the social progressives thing, I was just aping the language in the posts before mine.

I want the next GB movie to explore the New Jersey Parallelogram. I think that was in one of the cartoons.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 22:43

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

The Grimace posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn_vAcFGTJU

comic book girl still really chill and speaking reason

Would. With a fake name.

# ? Jul 18, 2016 22:47

Nanomashoes: Aug 18, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEKreyTkvA

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:00

ANIME IS BLOOD: Sep 4, 2008; by zen death robot

Nanomashoes posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEKreyTkvA

wrap it up misanthropailures

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:09

kalel: Jun 19, 2012

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

you must be lost, this isn't four chan

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:26

Germstore: Oct 17, 2012; A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Is making Leslie Jones an ape a statement about racism or just plain racism? (i already know the answer)

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:28

Al Cowens: Aug 11, 2004; by WE B Bourgeois

Germstore posted:

Is making Leslie Jones an ape a statement about racism or just plain racism? (i already know the answer)

why not both

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:30

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Germstore posted:

Is making Leslie Jones an ape a statement about racism or just plain racism? (i already know the answer)

i thought it was a Harambe joke until i noticed it was put where Leslie Jones is

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:40

eSports Chaebol: Feb 22, 2005; Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

eric posted:

LOL who the gently caress rates anything on a 1-8 scale?

in iain m banks's Culture series civilizations are grouped into categories from 1-8 based on their level of technological progress and id really l,ike to see them make Look to Windward or something into a movie thatd be really really cool

# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:45

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 14:52

Blurry Gray Thing: Jun 3, 2009

Retelling the same stories over and over but changing it slightly to fit the times and catch the interest of the audience is pretty much the oldest form of storytelling and not a modern Hollywood invention.

It is actually good that we're doing it with movies now instead of just letting them age and become less and less relevant because "It's a CLASSIC, just watch the original version!" Some new versions will be bad, and people who already liked the old version will always resent the new one, but it's still good that this is happening. And no, it's not proof that culture and society is dying. It's not the new generation's fault that they're more interested in things made for them than in things made for their parents and grandparents.

# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:07

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