|
CLAM DOWN posted:I lived in Vic for 6 years. It's a boring as poo poo city filled with the newly wed and nearly dead. Infrastructure, both transit and roads, suck rear end. Get ready to enjoy going to Vancouver on a regular basis because that's how bad Vic is. It's a gorgeous and fun place to visit, and be a tourist in, and arguably a student, but that's it. I find mostly the opposite.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 05:25 |
|
|
# ? Jun 3, 2024 22:27 |
|
yeah who knew you'd be deployed for anything you didn't agree with
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 05:32 |
|
... sure but I get to pick the wars, right?
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 05:35 |
|
I've had friends go to Afghanistan and had the time of their lives, one guy ended up meeting his fiance there
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 12:40 |
|
Professor Shark posted:I've had friends go to Afghanistan and had the time of their lives, one guy ended up meeting his fiance there Sounds like a blast!!
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:26 |
|
a primate posted:Sounds like a blast!!
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 14:22 |
|
New Coke posted:Well, I doubt most people knew they'd be deployed for something as counterproductive and idiotic as the second gulf war. Based on what? America's long history of using its armed forces only as a last resort, for productive and well-reasoned purposes?
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 15:13 |
|
PT6A posted:Based on what? America's long history of using its armed forces only as a last resort, for productive and well-reasoned purposes? I think that was sarcasm, the SECOND gulf war. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jul 18, 2016 |
# ? Jul 18, 2016 15:16 |
|
New Plan for a Strong Middle Class, p. 48 posted:We will enact the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. quote:Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould called the adoption of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People (UNDRIP) into Canadian law “unworkable” in a statement to the Assembly of First Nations today. Yes Saganash, it was all smoke and mirrors. It could never have been anything but.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 16:23 |
|
The whole point of the military is chain of command, you don't get to be a conscientious objector. You do what you're told where you're told to deploy.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 16:32 |
|
Hahahaha a native Indian calling the undrip unworkable hahahaha
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 16:43 |
|
Fluffy Chainsaw posted:Yes Saganash, it was all smoke and mirrors. It could never have been anything but. NDP has every right to be salty, the Liberals just shifted their position to the NDP's reality based campaign platform. quote:An NDP government would invest $1.8 billion new dollars for First Nations education and ensure all federal government decision respect treaty rights, inherent rights and the principles in the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP), the party’s leader Thomas Mulcair said Wednesday. You also don't need to go all the way back to the campaign to quote the liberals on UNDRIP, they got a standing ovation two months ago for adopting it "without qualification". quote:There's nothing frightening about adopting and implementing the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett said Tuesday at the UN. Conservatives: We can never turn UNDRIP into law, we don't support it. NDP: We support the principles of UNDRIP Liberals: We'll implement UNDRIP completely... no we won't.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 16:43 |
|
I mean, I get why the new statement is controversial (because election campaigns are bad places to make nuanced statements and the Liberals got elected by telling people what they wanted to hear and leaving the details to be worked out later) but Wilson-Raybould is just saying now what was obvious then to anyone who knew how international treaties work: it was always going to be necessary to adapt UNDRIP's implementing legislation to be compatible with the existing aboriginal rights framework (especially since most of that framework is based in the Constitution and its judicial interpretation, and at changing that), it was never realistic or workable to simply take the treaty and say "it's Canadian law now too, exactly as written at the UN." Bennett's Big Announcement was just saying "we support the treaty and will implement the recommendations of the treaty in law" (as opposed to Harper, who refused to implement it), but part of what treaty implementing legislation MEANS is that the provisions of the treaty have to be maneuvered into the existing body of domestic law.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 17:22 |
|
Dallan Invictus posted:I mean, I get why the new statement is controversial (because election campaigns are bad places to make nuanced statements and the Liberals got elected by telling people what they wanted to hear and leaving the details to be worked out later) but Wilson-Raybould is just saying now what was obvious then to anyone who knew how international treaties work: it was always going to be necessary to adapt UNDRIP's implementing legislation to be compatible with the existing aboriginal rights framework (especially since most of that framework is based in the Constitution and its judicial interpretation, and at changing that), it was never realistic or workable to simply take the treaty and say "it's Canadian law now too, exactly as written at the UN." That's a whole lotta words to say that the Liberals lie through their teeth.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 18:10 |
|
Still being cautiously optimistic over here.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 18:18 |
|
Meanwhile, the Liberals are still hedging their bets on banning asbestos even though the last asbestos mine in Quebec shut down years ago so there's not even any money left to be made exporting cancer third world poors. In a related note, the new multi-zillion dollar children's hospital in Perth was just found to have asbestos in it after importing some sketchy as gently caress building materials from China. Good job, corrupt Western construction industries. Theree was also an article about how the Liberals are totally going to put a national price on carbon at some point but there's only so much noncommittal mealy mouthed bullshit I can read in one day. I'm sure it will happen right after electoral reform, national childcare, pharmacare and social housing.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:51 |
|
Haha where the gently caress is that scumbag bunnyofdoom
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:01 |
|
eXXon posted:Meanwhile, the Liberals are still hedging their bets on banning asbestos quote:Earlier this year, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced that Canada was at last “moving to ban asbestos” because “its impact on workers far outweighs any benefits that it might provide.” This welcome promise prompted fanfare from health advocates and vulnerable workers who know all too well how devastating that impact can be. Mission accomplished, more like. What's the need of doing anything after you've won accolades?
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:03 |
|
namaste faggots posted:Haha where the gently caress is that scumbag bunnyofdoom Getting wined and dined by lobbyists quote:In May – the latest full month of data – registered lobbyists reported almost 2,400 communications with MPs, Senators, Ministers and bureaucrats.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:07 |
|
loving hypocrite
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:17 |
|
I'm not happy with the Liberals in general, but I will continue to support them because they piss CI off so effectively.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:30 |
|
Even Al Jazeera is piling on today. Do we need to remind them that Trudeau is literally directing the great arc of history sweeping towards justicequote:Turns out, like many other media-manufactured portraits of Western politicians, the popular and agreeable caricature of Trudeau being promoted at home and abroad is a neoliberal mirage.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 20:37 |
|
Of course Andrew Mitrovica would be scare-quoting the idea of Russia's actions in Ukraine being "aggressive".
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:26 |
|
Liberals playing to the crowd to get elected and then never following through on any promises to avoid controversy by shaking the status quo? Who could have seen that coming
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:48 |
|
Pixelante posted:Sometimes BA Johnston plays Logans. That's always fun. BA is the fuckin man. the voice of my generation
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:59 |
|
Trudeau is a pretty good demonstration of how Canadians crave a certain kind of government rhetoric but are far too lazy and indifferent to investigate whether that rhetoric in any way matches reality. Harper was hated not for anything he actually did but because he refused to pander to our most cowardly political tendencies, like our need to pretend we're a progressive liberal country on the international stage. What's really remarkable is how completely the NDP misunderstood this situation. They saw the rightward drift of the countries and assumed that there was now an appetite for a principled form of fiscal conservatism with a tinge of social consciousness. But really this was a misunderstanding. Harper's base support fiscal conservatism because it hurts the unworthy, not because they actually care about deficits. And the soft Liberal vote that was in play in 2015 wanted someone like Trudeau who can make gentle cooing sounds at them while continuing the exact same fiscal and international agenda as Harper. Jack Layton could have been that figure but Mulcair, like an idiot, somehow thought people actually wanted a genuine fiscal conservative with a social conscience. It'll be interesting to see how this electorate reacts when the next financial crash occurs. Helsing fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jul 18, 2016 |
# ? Jul 18, 2016 22:18 |
|
Helsing posted:It'll be interesting to see how this electorate reacts when the next financial crash occurs. Prime Minister Clement
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:42 |
|
Ambrose Burnside posted:BA is the fuckin man. the voice of my generation I won a bet by saying BA can get laid. Was met with, "no loving way," and then bewilderment when he saw the rockabilly chicks in the front row trying to pet the poor guy.
|
# ? Jul 18, 2016 23:42 |
|
Helsing posted:That's a whole lotta words to say that the Liberals lie through their teeth. I didn't see any actual lies posted - they said they would support it without qualification, and apparently that's true? They stopped objecting to it at the UN. It seems that's what that statement meant? Next they'll enact it, but as stated, it won't be passing the draft treaty as a single law, for considerations of adapting it to existing structures and processes. It'll be piecemeal over time. Again, not a lie. Just not what you want.
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:13 |
|
A Typical Goon posted:Liberals playing to the crowd to get elected and then never following through on any promises to avoid controversy by shaking the status quo? Who could have seen that coming Still, could have been worse, like playing to the crowd and *not* getting elected. Vive la Mulcairisme!
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:17 |
|
Helsing posted:. Harper was hated not for anything he actually did What the *gently caress* are you tripping balls on, son. Long for census Science censorship Dictatorial PMO Hiring idiotic sycophants Veterans benefits Gazebos Etc Etc
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:20 |
|
His point is that nobody actually cares about any of that other than politics nerds and reporters, and he's right.
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:32 |
|
I dislike Trudeau's mannerisms but the fact that he sold the country on a hugely discriminatory no young Muslim dudes refugee policy is awesome. I still try to close my eyes and imagine how I'd feel if Harper were enacting the same policies and it can be annoyingly satisfactory. Another point for the no dudes policy. https://twitter.com/acoyne/status/755170128627720192
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:47 |
|
THC posted:His point is that nobody actually cares about any of that other than politics nerds and reporters, and he's right. Based on the recent successes of pollsters and political parties alike, I'm not sure that anyone really knows what voters actually care about besides cognitive dissonance.
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 00:59 |
|
tagesschau posted:Prime Minister Clement #Tony4PM
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 01:11 |
|
eXXon posted:Based on the recent successes of pollsters and political parties alike, I'm not sure that anyone really knows what voters actually care about besides cognitive dissonance. Making _____ great again! People want to be told that they're the best, and if their lives aren't perfect, it's because some external force is to blame, and by god we're gonna get rid of whatever it is (Mexicans, immigrants, the EU, etc.)
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 01:26 |
|
THC posted:His point is that nobody actually cares about any of that other than politics nerds and reporters, and he's right. I'm sure people were lined up waiting for the polls to open so they could vote out Harper and get their precious long form census back.
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 06:43 |
|
Basically Canadians are too dumb to be laden with the privilege of democracy
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 07:53 |
|
http://www.theprovince.com/news/national/98two+wheeler+preachers+sanctimonious+scolders+vancouver/12066830/story.htmlquote:A staff report delivered to city council this month recommends that any newcomer seeking a city parking permit in the West End be slapped with a 700 per cent fee increase. Current permit fees for existing residents are far too low, at $80 a year, explain city planners. Better to charge incoming residents at a “market rate,” which the city has determined to be $50 a month, or a punishing $600 a year. %600 a year?! Living downtown will become unaffordable at this rate.
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 08:37 |
|
|
# ? Jun 3, 2024 22:27 |
|
80 bucks a year for a parking permit in Vancouver? Holy poo poo, that's amazingly cheap. I'm looking at moving in with my girlfriend who lives in east end Toronto, a parking spot either in her building or street permit will be $texas, I'm sure.
|
# ? Jul 19, 2016 12:33 |