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Star Trek is a terrible fit for LEGO anyway. I mean, okay, apparently the new film is good, but aside from that the last two were awful generic action blockbusters that missed the point of the series. Action figures aren't great at re-enacting cerebral mysteries and philosophical quandaries. If kids want pew pew laser shooting and space dogfights, Star Wars is an infinite well from which to draw from. Adults will always have collector merch.
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Jul 26, 2016 04:26
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Tighclops posted:I hope you're joking because this is actually pretty much what happened to kill off the classic Lego Space subthemes and if this is true also AHA! GOT YOU! The personal log you actually recorded said "I can never forgive them" and the one you're bringing up now in evidence says "I've never been able to forgive them". This is clear evidence of tampering with the record. Unless you're going to go for that lame "mistake by the moviemakers" route. How do you account for this? DON'T WAIT FOR THE TRANSLATION ANSWER ME NOW
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Jul 26, 2016 04:27
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Tighclops posted:I hope you're joking because this is actually pretty much what happened to kill off the classic Lego Space subthemes and if this is true also It was stated a lot on the LEGO sites some years back. SW is a proven cash cow and LF didn't want Paramount to get their fingers into that. And now with Disney in control I expect it won't change. There's some behind the scenes poo poo going on where Disney wanted all the DC properties cut out of LEGO Dimensions but since WB owns the company that makes the games thee's no way it would happen.
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Jul 26, 2016 04:35
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Just back from Beyond....way better than I thought it would be considering all of the directoral/writing changes over the last few years. I wish they had spent a little more time on the villain's interesting backstory rather than shoving it in about 10 minutes before the end though. That was an interesting angle that mostly seems to have ended up on the cutting room floor.
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Jul 26, 2016 04:45
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That was when Disney was trying to do their own toys to life thing. With them cancelling their video games division we'll probably see more games and toys for star wars
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Jul 26, 2016 04:45
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Nitrousoxide posted:That was when Disney was trying to do their own toys to life thing. With them cancelling their video games division we'll probably see more games and toys for star wars They never slowed down on the actual Lego Star Wars toys. And it's still very unlikely that any Disney owned characters will appear alongside WB owned ones. DS9 5x17 - Odo had sex with a lady and when she pressed him about how shape shifters have sex he made his shifting noise and she started moaning. Deep Space Nine is DIRTY.
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Jul 26, 2016 04:53
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Rhyno posted:Deep Space Nine is DIRTY. What space are we meant to be deep in??? And NINE of them?????? 
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Jul 26, 2016 04:57
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Rhyno posted:They never slowed down on the actual Lego Star Wars toys. And it's still very unlikely that any Disney owned characters will appear alongside WB owned ones. That's the sound of him releasing the chicken gumbo.
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Jul 26, 2016 07:09
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He calls that the Cardassian Neck Trick.
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Jul 26, 2016 08:19
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Delsaber posted:He calls that the Cardassian Neck Trick. I thought that was the Orb Experience
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Jul 26, 2016 09:04
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Wait, Altamid is in another galaxy?! https://twitter.com/simonpegg/status/757894165984313344
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Jul 26, 2016 12:09
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ZShakespeare posted:Anyone noticed yet that the Discovery design is clearly derived from the abandoned Star Trek Phase II 1977 concept? Maybe there's still hope for the Enterprise-J design! Which I, alone, like.
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Jul 26, 2016 12:36
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qntm posted:Maybe there's still hope for the Enterprise-J design! Which I, alone, like. I like some of the concepts behind the J, I just dislike the actual execution.
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Jul 26, 2016 12:37
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So late thoughts/baseless speculation on the STD trailer. I know it's obviously got the look of that old McQuarrie concept, but I still think there's a little bit more we can read into the ship's design than just, "they copied an art." For starters (and I'm amazed no one else mentioned this), it looks like a warship. It's bulky and sturdy-looking with those thick pylons, but streamlined into that wicked arrowhead shape, which gives it a much sleeker and more predatory look than the McQuarrie design ever had. The teaser had a tense score with lots of martial elements, which along with Meyer's association with a more military sort of Trek almost suggest to me that the name "Discovery" might have a hint of irony to it. What's more, there are echoes of the newer JJTrek designs in the ship's coloring and many of its lines, but I think the basic look of the thing (particularly the lack of spindly pylons and tube nacelles) doesn't fit the TOS-era design language at all and probably means it's set in a different era, probably earlier because of the registry number and also because it doesn't fit with a TNG/post-TNG look as it's not nearly as smooth and curvy or "high tech" looking and has a round, flat saucer like the older ships did. I also agree that there is a Klingon (or perhaps Romulan) look to it, but I disagree that this means it's a combined crew. The other reason you might see a ship that incorporates another culture's design is if the technology has been reverse-engineered, which often happens during periods of hostilities. Which leads me to my new fun theory, which is that this show will be set during/just after the Klingon war as part of a concerted effort to make those Axanar shits die choking on their own outrage.
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Jul 26, 2016 12:46
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You guys can't ignore that sabotage-related trivia is an established part of the movies.
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Jul 26, 2016 12:53
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Duckbag posted:What's more, there are echoes of the newer JJTrek designs in the ship's coloring and many of its lines, but I think the basic look of the thing (particularly the lack of spindly pylons and tube nacelles) doesn't fit the TOS-era design language at all and probably means it's set in a different era, probably earlier because of the registry number and also because it doesn't fit with a TNG/post-TNG look as it's not nearly as smooth and curvy or "high tech" looking and has a round, flat saucer like the older ships did. If I was going to fit it in with existing Trek design lineage, I'd say it looks like part of the Refit/Miranda/Excelsior/Oberth era design family.
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Jul 26, 2016 12:54
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I still say the dumbest star trek ship design is the Intrepid. Which, would have looked cool if it had normal nacelles. But no, gotta have them pivot for some reason.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:02
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Duckbag posted:Which leads me to my new fun theory, which is that this show will be set during/just after the Klingon war as part of a concerted effort to make those Axanar shits die choking on their own outrage. That would just lend validation to them saying they were targeted because they were doing better than the upcoming show.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:06
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"Discovery" isn't exactly a good name for a warship. Sounds more like a science vessel.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:11
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MikeJF posted:If I was going to fit it in with existing Trek design lineage, I'd say it looks like part of the Refit/Miranda/Excelsior/Oberth era design family. Yeah, I can see that as well. Some of the details on the saucer made me think of the Excelsior at first, but it's also got some of that flatness the NX and some of the other "old" ship designs have. Really, neither era would surprise me.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:14
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Beyond is the Mass Effect franchise's feature film, starring Chris Pine as Shepard, the Enterprise as the first Normandy and Yorktown as the Citadel. I just hope the Enterprise had a Stellar Cartography room which played the Galaxy Map theme on repeat: https://youtu.be/BtS3BRC9MDM
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Jul 26, 2016 13:16
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Gammatron 64 posted:"Discovery" isn't exactly a good name for a warship. Sounds more like a science vessel. All Starfleet vessels are built with the purpose to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, and to boldly go where no man has gone before. But space is mad dangerous and you need to pack serious heat to do any of that.
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Duckbag posted:Yeah, I can see that as well. Some of the details on the saucer made me think of the Excelsior at first, but it's also got some of that flatness the NX and some of the other "old" ship designs have. Really, neither era would surprise me. Actually, the saucer's inlay and general features really reminds me of the Oberth class. The Grissom was NCC-638? Hmm.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:17
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Gammatron 64 posted:"Discovery" isn't exactly a good name for a warship. Sounds more like a science vessel. They HAVE to have an AI if they're going with that name.
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WickedHate posted:All Starfleet vessels are built with the purpose to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, and to boldly go where no man has gone before. But space is mad dangerous and you need to pack serious heat to do any of that. Also they're frequently given the romantic names of majestic old sailing ships that just happened to have two decks of cannon and full compliment of marines.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:25
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MikeJF posted:I like some of the concepts behind the J, I just dislike the actual execution. I like the J, but every iteration I've seen makes it look like the saucer only exists on a 2D plane.
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Jul 26, 2016 13:33
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The_Doctor posted:I like the J, but every iteration I've seen makes it look like the saucer only exists on a 2D plane. I think the intent was for that to give the impression of it being so ridiculously huge you can barely make out the thickness, but I don't know if they pulled it off.
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Came across my unopened boxed set of the original series, and then last night saw it was on Amazon Prime so bookmarked it. Then this AM I see this thread. Spooky. I should probably make a habit of (*re)watching. (*Watched the original series as a kid when it was on TV.)
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Jul 26, 2016 13:48
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The American namesake of Enterprise was a schooner with a few pop guns, not a 2 decker.
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I assume if anything Roddenberry named her for the CV-6, although obviously that ship was named from a ridiculously long lineage.
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Gammatron 64 posted:"Discovery" isn't exactly a good name for a warship.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:01
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Hyperriker posted:Beyond is the Mass Effect franchise's feature film, starring Chris Pine as Shepard, the Enterprise as the first Normandy and Yorktown as the Citadel.
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https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/757713549854707716 That's nifty
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Jul 26, 2016 16:39
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Spanker isn't a strange name, it's a sail.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:46
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I though they only used NX (Naval Experiment) numbers for prototype ships after the federation was formed. Shouldn't it have an NCC number?
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Nitrousoxide posted:I though they only used NX (Naval Experiment) numbers for prototype ships after the federation was formed. Shouldn't it have an NCC number? NX-01? From before the Federation? Ah, a good explanation: http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/heres-where-the-franklin-fits-in-the-star-trek-timeline/ The_Doctor fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jul 26, 2016 |
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Payndz posted:The Royal Navy's Flower-class vessels gave the world the warships HMS Pansy, Daffodil, Buttercup and Geranium, amongst others. (Other RN vessels with odd names include HMS Spanker, HMS Cockchafer and HMS Black Joke. All of which should be starships, or at least Culture vessels.) Don't forget the HMS Gay Viking.
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Little theme chat from Beyond: both Kirk and Spock consider trying to live up to their idols by doing something out of character and in the end decide to do what they want instead. Notably kirk rides a motorcycle and listens to beastie boys and is happy about it and comfortable with himself, contrasting with the first movie where those were both symbols of a rebellious unhappy kid. If you mentioned you felt that the cast felt comfortable in their roles for the first time, I think that's an intentional theme. Both Kirk and Spock finally resolve their daddy issues in this episode.
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Yes, which is odd why they would bring Chris Hemsworth back for the 4th one
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