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Doctor Butts posted:Whoop de doo. GOP may turn on Trump. That will do nothing except embolden Trump supporters since it adds to his Anti-Establishment credentials. His supporters are not a large enough demographic to win an election. They need moderates to win.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Because you don't know that the nukes from Pakistan are only ever heading towards India, and vice-versa, and waiting for that to be confirmed could take long enough that you're screwed on timing your retaliation if it turns out you actually need to. The Israelis would notice that Pakistani missiles would be flying east towards India. Who else could they possibly be aimed at? China would notice that India's missiles are flying west toward Pakistan. Who else could they possibly be aimed at?
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Mr Interweb posted:Ah okay, I see what the confusion was. It wasn't Trump that said that comment about nuclear weapons, it was one of his idiot staffers:
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Charlz Guybon posted:The Israelis would notice that Pakistani missiles would be flying east towards India. Who else could they possibly be aimed at? I'm not saying I disagree, but if nuclear policy were entirely based on rationality, we wouldn't have had the Cold War.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I don't like nukes for the same reason most of my unit hated when we had to use helicopters. If you die it's not on you. It's completely out of your control.
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Man will never have the guts to fire nuclear weapons, thus our enemies know we will not retaliate. I have developed a walking tank, running on an AI with information from a dead ww2 hero, and it will always fire, and MAD will be back in place.
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Mr Interweb posted:Ah okay, I see what the confusion was. It wasn't Trump that said that comment about nuclear weapons, it was one of his idiot staffers: Her being ignorant, doesn't mean Trump also wasn't ignorant.
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Nah you can dodge and take cover from indirect fire! And yeah the whole killing lots of civilians thing is bad as well.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Her being ignorant, doesn't mean Trump also wasn't ignorant. Trump being ignorant is axiomatic at this point.
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waitwhatno posted:Well, if he is really a citizen why wouldn't he release his birthing video? I'm not saying that he isn't a citizen, just that if he was, there would be no need for this secrecy. It makes you think, makes you think that something is fishy. Not necessarily that he wasn't born a citizen, but that something is not right with his citizenship and that it has something to do with him being in office legally. You know? He already released it at the White House Correspondent's Dinner. https://youtu.be/2bqEn8AXzJ4
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greatn posted:Man will never have the guts to fire nuclear weapons, thus our enemies know we will not retaliate. Make FOXHOUND Great Again.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Her being ignorant, doesn't mean Trump also wasn't ignorant. Consider that he hired her
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greatn posted:Man will never have the guts to fire nuclear weapons, thus our enemies know we will not retaliate. Huey account spotted.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:What does uspol think of nukes re Japan? It's a derail on the same scale as tipping and cooking steaks.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:What does uspol think of nukes re Japan? Nukes bad. We should formally apologize to the Japanese people.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Nukes bad. We should formally apologize to the Japanese people. You don't think that a massive land invasion wouldn't have caused even more civilian casualties than the nukes? Not to mention the loss of US troops.
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Please just start another thread for the inevitable Japan nuke discussion. In fact, start a nuclear weapon thread in general and take all non-Trump related nuke chat there.
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oh god, the   derail is coming! everyone duck and cover!
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Arrgytehpirate posted:You don't think that a massive land invasion wouldn't have caused even more civilian casualties than the nukes? Not to mention the loss of US troops. *sucks air through teeth*
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Arrgytehpirate posted:What does uspol think of nukes re Japan? See you tomorrow folks.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:You don't think that a massive land invasion wouldn't have caused even more civilian casualties than the nukes? Not to mention the loss of US troops. Starting an argument about this in this thread will cause more civilian casualties than either. Please just start another thread.
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Last time I started a thread I got banned. I'm scared
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Either start a new thread or search for it in one of the USPOL threads from this year and read quietly.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Her being ignorant, doesn't mean Trump also wasn't ignorant. Who's arguing otherwise? 
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MattD1zzl3 posted:I was thinking about the two often-repeated political phrases this year "This is the slowest Economic recovery ever" and "We're due for a recession". Could these two things have something to do with each other? As in i'm hypothesizing obama has been knocking it out of the park so well that we had a "recession", and it just slowed growth instead of shrinking the economy so nobody noticed? People say this has been a slow recovery because it has been in terms of GDP growth, but it has nothing to do with Obama and it's frustrating when economic conditions are politicized like this. The recovery has been slow because the 2008 crisis was incredibly bad, probably worse than a lot of people realize, because global growth has been abysmal for years now, and because there are still structural economic issues that haven't been dealt with. It's also worth keeping in mind that central banks have really been in the driver's seat for the last few years and the recovery is mostly being kept afloat through monetary policy since meaningful fiscal policy is impossible as long as the Republicans hold the government hostage. It actually is possible that we might have avoided an actual recessionary period some time in the last few years thanks to the Fed essentially keeping their foot on the floor, but that's arguably not a good thing given that they're now trapped into near-zero interest rates. People who say that we're "due" for a recession are really just pointing out that this particular growth period has gone on a while. Recessions don't just happen, but risk factors naturally increase as you move through a business cycle.
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Can anyone briefly explain the ongoing "school segregation" thing in NYC or point to an article that briefly explains it?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/760846165701165056
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Honestly, the US seems to have dealt with the recession far better than Europe just because it didn't get nearly as manically into austerity and was willing to have some inflation going on.
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greatn posted:Man will never have the guts to fire nuclear weapons, thus our enemies know we will not retaliate. Pretend I linked here to the in depth Chapo Trap House discussion of the relationship of the 2016 election to MGS2
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Gorelab posted:Honestly, the US seems to have dealt with the recession far better than Europe just because it didn't get nearly as manically into austerity and was willing to have some inflation going on. We had a president who genuinely wanted to do more stimulus and got stymmied by congress. Things could be better if it weren't for 2010.
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Bip Roberts posted:Pretend I linked here to the in depth Chapo Trap House discussion of the relationship of the 2016 election to MGS2 If this is a real thing don't pretend to link it. Link it.
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Paradoxish posted:People say this has been a slow recovery because it has been in terms of GDP growth, but it has nothing to do with Obama and it's frustrating when economic conditions are politicized like this. The recovery has been slow because the 2008 crisis was incredibly bad, probably worse than a lot of people realize, because global growth has been abysmal for years now, and because there are still structural economic issues that haven't been dealt with. Obama's stimulus plan was massively smaller than was recommended by Keynesian economists, he was bargained down by Rahm Emanuel (then Chief of Staff) before the plan even got to Congress and they bargained it down further from there. Obama was also stupid enough to think that he could ask for more at a future date when it was perfectly clear from Day 1 that he was going to get exactly one shot at stimulus. Of course you can't fault Obama for creating the 2008 crisis or anything like that, but you can certainly fault his responses to it as timid and naieve. And for selecting Rahm as CoS.
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fishmech posted:But it's also somewhat helpful that people generally overestimate how much damage nuclear war would do, as it keeps down the amount of people who actively support doing it.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:If this is a real thing don't pretend to link it. Link it. it is really short and is contained in yesterday's premium episode not very memorable unfortunately, I think Felix is gonna do a segment dedicated to it on another show
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zoux posted:Here's how fine everything is. How did they get a live look in on Reince Priebus like that.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Her being ignorant, doesn't mean Trump also wasn't ignorant. I mean... https://twitter.com/sopandeb/status/760831908964077568
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zoux posted:Wait, they think it is payback for the 1979 coup hostages? No, they think this was a payoff to earn the release of those 3-4 totally innocent not at all spies that Iran had arrested for various clear spy activities.
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