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JMS's Hyperion and SS both suffer from JMS's habit of using characters to lecture other characters in the most droll manner possible, about how badass they are. Which sucks cause the inherent concept of Superman being captured and raised as an American weapon and then straining his bonds is a really good one.
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Yep, exactly. If I'm going to read a bad writer coming up with a million ways about having a guy say he's going to break his foot off in somebody's rear end, at least someone like Brian Azzarello can be a little bit creative about it. JMS' writing is just distracting.
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I actually really liked his Midnight Nation and the first part of Rising Stars, surprised Midnight Nation hasn't been made into something. TV or Movie wise.
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Aug 5, 2016 16:44
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AccountSupervisor posted:Did this thread just spend 2 pages mistaking a shot from Thor with Blade Runner because To be fair to them, talking about Blade Runner is always a good thing, but yeah I was biting my tongue during that whole exchange since I had already called out that it was from Thor pages back.
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Aug 5, 2016 17:06
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Based on a recent post BiggerBoat made in the concept art thread, I googled around Superman Returns and where they almost went before Man of Steel, and the Singer sequel to SR sounds pretty crazy:quote:IESB put up the report a few days ago which goes into detail on scenes from Superman Returns that were never released and more interestingly, Bryan Singer’s plans for its sequel. There were several different basic outlines for how the sequel could have played out but the storyline that would’ve likely been turned into a full screenplay included the following plot points which I’ve summarized into point form below: Interesting re: the discussion and reaction to MoS. It emphasizes why Superman can't just Save Everyone and Do Everything. But also apparently ends with Superman basically murdering a child.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:15
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Electromax posted:Based on a recent post BiggerBoat made in the concept art thread, I googled around Superman Returns and where they almost went before Man of Steel, and the Singer sequel to SR sounds pretty crazy: Yeah that actually sounds pretty cool up until the hard left turn of the last two bullet points
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Aug 5, 2016 21:21
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It seems like Brainiac was doing a pretty good job helping create world peace, so why can't superman do that but just dont do the last step of 'destroy the world you brought peace too'??
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Aug 5, 2016 21:29
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Jerkface posted:It seems like Brainiac was doing a pretty good job helping create world peace, so why can't superman do that but just dont do the last step of 'destroy the world you brought peace too'?? Why doesn't God impose peace? It abuts against free will, and in Superman's case, his judgement being better than billions of others. EDIT: This is basically every Ellis comic book in the aughties.
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Aug 5, 2016 22:47
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Electromax posted:Based on a recent post BiggerBoat made in the concept art thread, I googled around Superman Returns and where they almost went before Man of Steel, and the Singer sequel to SR sounds pretty crazy: Does Superman beat him to death while crying?
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Electromax posted:Based on a recent post BiggerBoat made in the concept art thread, I googled around Superman Returns and where they almost went before Man of Steel, and the Singer sequel to SR sounds pretty crazy: I want to see all the unmade Superman movies. I would have legitimately been into this one. Burton's and all the aborted 90s nonstarts would have been fun curiosities.
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Aug 6, 2016 00:03
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Even the one with the giant spider?
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I think I hosed up the post that Electromax was referring to because I was talking about some really crazy concept art from a documentary I watched called "The Death of Superman Lives". Maybe I wrote "The Death of Superman Returns"HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Marvel has no equivalent with the same cachet. A lot of people feel like the fact that Watchmen is about superhero comics makes it impenetrable and insular but that exact thing makes it stand out, it's very well positioned as the alpha and omega if you don't want to bother reading any other superhero comics. I don't know. I think you have to have a pretty solid understanding of superhero comics to really appreciate what Watchmen did and was trying to say. I can't imagine a casual reader who only knows about Batman, Superman and Spiderman TV shows or used to watch Superfriends as a kid just grabbing it up and really being able to pick up what it was about.
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Superman sacrificing his son totally makes sense for Bryan Singer's Superman.
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Jerkface posted:It seems like Brainiac was doing a pretty good job helping create world peace, so why can't superman do that but just dont do the last step of 'destroy the world you brought peace too'?? See the first 15 minutes of Man Of Steel (or Independence Day, for that matter). The 'peace' inevitably leads to the apocalypse. Superman doesn't come to bring peace, but a sword.
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\HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It sucks balls, like everything JMS has written since Babylon 5. i'll go to bat for parts of his spider-man superman grounded can eat my rear end
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:See the first 15 minutes of Man Of Steel (or Independence Day, for that matter). The 'peace' inevitably leads to the apocalypse. Superman doesn't come to bring peace, but a sword. Despite some imagery and Zack Snyder's film version in particular, Superman isn't very similar to Jesus. So I'm not sure what you're trying to get across with bible quotes. I know from your posts that you really enjoy imbuing these pulpy action characters with really rich and complex symbolism, but it doesn't always necessarily apply. Superman, as he's generally written, is just a humble nice guy trying to do good. These superhero stories don't usually go so far as to having to make huge hard choices, and I do like it when they do. But even still, the various choices Superman makes over his career condradict eachother and are the whims of various editors and writers over the years. Largely though, I just don't think he's much different than say a firefighter. He's just trying to put out fires, that's about it usually.
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Heavy Metal posted:Despite some imagery and Zack Snyder's film version in particular, Superman isn't very similar to Jesus. So I'm not sure what you're trying to get across with bible quotes. I know from your posts that you really enjoy imbuing these pulpy action characters with really rich and complex symbolism, but it doesn't always necessarily apply. I am not talking about how the character is generally written. I'm talking about the plot synopsis, posted above, where Brainaic is unambiguously the antichrist.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I am not talking about how the character is generally written. I'm talking about the plot synopsis, posted above, where Brainaic is unambiguously the antichrist. Ah, gotcha. You mentioned something about looking to the first fifteen minutes of Man of Steel for context. In that synopsis, what makes Brainiac an antichrist in particular? I guess a Braniac infused boy is a bit like Damien at least.
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My opinions on Suicide Squad in lovely brick format. It was pretty entertaining. Deadshot was a legit cool character and I liked what they did with him. Harley Quinn was ok in small doses which is unfortunate because she had a huge focus. Everything with the Joker felt unnecessary, it's pretty obvious they were just trying to shoehorn him in here somehow. Same with Batman. I really wanted to see more of Katana, also I thought it was hilarious how she weeps to her husbands soul trapped in her magic blade and yet kills a poo poo ton of bad guys...wherein their souls presumably torment husbandosoul for eternity? Killer Croc was not understandable at all between his hick accent and the voice effects. I really liked Flagg's character, he seemed like the only one with an actual character arc. I thought the Enchantress was well portrayed, although it looks like most people hated her. I liked her various looks and weird movements and her otherworldliness. Amanda Waller was of course a super hardass. The soundtrack definitely felt like a bit much. Overall I'd give it a 6/10 movie theater experience.
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't know. I think you have to have a pretty solid understanding of superhero comics to really appreciate what Watchmen did and was trying to say. I can't imagine a casual reader who only knows about Batman, Superman and Spiderman TV shows or used to watch Superfriends as a kid just grabbing it up and really being able to pick up what it was about. Just as Lt. Ken says, it taught in English Lit courses. It does such a thorough job of explaining its own context that there is nothing else needed.
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Is the absence of Captain Boomerang in your review a commentary on his character, Rough Lobster?  He seems like the comic relief when there's plenty of comedy potential from the other folks. He also doesn't seem to contribute much to the team beyond his cam-boomerang. Some might call the role a commentary on Jai Courtney!
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Rough Lobster posted:Killer Croc was not understandable at all between his hick accent and the voice effects.
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Aug 6, 2016 14:25
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Slugworth posted:Wait, Adewale is capable of doing a 'hick' accent? Or is he not voicing the character at all? It's a very heavy AAVE accent which is very similar to a Southern White accent. I thought he sounded a little Cajun, but that might be because he's a croc.
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Croc was a little hard to understand, but a lot of cool accents are.
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Rough Lobster posted:Killer Croc was not understandable at all between his hick accent and the voice effects. Enunciating around those ridiculous prosthetic teeth must have been a nightmare. Why he kept them in for post-prod ADR I'll never know.
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BTW one little thing I liked about Suicide Squad is they stylized the non-English subtitles during the segments where Enchantress speaks her spooky language. It sometimes happens that there's suddenly stylized English subtitles during movie segments with the Dutch translation in plain font right below them, making for a temporary doubling of letters. In Suicide Squad they just replaced the stylized English with Dutch. That's a nice touch, I don't think I've ever seen that before.
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Mierenneuker posted:Is the absence of Captain Boomerang in your review a commentary on his character, Rough Lobster? Captain Boomerang threw a grand total of one (by my count) boomerang and mostly just used them as knives. His pink unicorn moments felt incredibly lame and forced. I did like his interaction with Slipknot and the way he immediately scampered off when the bombs were temporarily deactivated. overall I felt that they if they cut him and gave more time to another cast member it'd be a better movie.
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From BSS.Dacap posted:Brie Larson just posted this on Instagram
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Cythereal posted:From BSS. I don't get it
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Hat Thoughts posted:I don't get it That's the actress Marvel cast for Captain Marvel, posting a picture of herself dressed as Captain Marvel reading a Captain Marvel comic. A few actors with comic character roles recently have done similar things, showing themselves reading up on the characters they'll be playing and getting familiar with the work - Bernthal with Welcome Back Frank for his role as the Punisher in Daredevil, for example.
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Aug 7, 2016 02:47
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No way the actual movie costume will be as bright as those awesome Captain Marvel pajamas
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So what's the hold up on more creator owned superhero movies being greenlit? Or otherwise alternative ones to Marvel/DC? We had the Hellboy movies a bit before the current Marvel movie boom, where's a Savage Dragon movie? Or Invincible (by Walking Dead's Robert Kirkman). I could even see a Witchblade/Darkness movie being very cool. Disney and WB are all in, you'd think some other companies would try to get these things going. Granted, there's a Power Rangers movie happening, that's a non-Marvel/DC superhero thingy sorta.
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Supposedly there's a new Spawn being made maybe Youngblood is ever rumbling in development hell Invincible wouldn't work too well as a movie I don't think. But who knows
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There's been a new Spawn movie being made since 1998, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Heavy Metal posted:So what's the hold up on more creator owned superhero movies being greenlit? Or otherwise alternative ones to Marvel/DC? We had the Hellboy movies a bit before the current Marvel movie boom, where's a Savage Dragon movie? Or Invincible (by Walking Dead's Robert Kirkman). I could even see a Witchblade/Darkness movie being very cool. Most of the creator-owned comics getting adapted recently was created by Mark Millar and I think that has more to do with him than the comics.
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Witchblade is so weird, it had that tv series that was occasionally decent and then there was the manga/anime of it where they did like a total Japanese remake of the property that was big in Japan for a bit too and then it all just disappeared.
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Heavy Metal posted:So what's the hold up on more creator owned superhero movies being greenlit? Or otherwise alternative ones to Marvel/DC? We had the Hellboy movies a bit before the current Marvel movie boom, where's a Savage Dragon movie? Or Invincible (by Walking Dead's Robert Kirkman). I could even see a Witchblade/Darkness movie being very cool.
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Cythereal posted:That's the actress Marvel cast for Captain Marvel, posting a picture of herself dressed as Captain Marvel reading a Captain Marvel comic.
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Halloween Jack posted:The cynic in me says it's a marketing ploy to forestall any potential backlash from geek media. Embrace the healing power of "and."
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It's going to be interesting what they come up with for her origin or even if it's a origin movie at all. I hope they go with Space Cop / Earth Border Control angle.
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